The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%

  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%

  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%

  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%
  • Total voters
    992
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KiwiFuzz said:
Like this only speedballs.

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If he really was chewing up pills made of fentanyl and methamphetamine he was doing too many drugs - maybe the only honest thing he said all day lmfao

Also in my opinion whether he said it or not Nelson makes it sound like that’s what he said so it’s a pretty good technique for the defense
 
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Dr. Ricearoni said:
I hear "I ain't doin any drugs" which is a lie so I'm not sure if that is better or worse
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If they proved that that was what Floyd said that's even BETTER for the defense. At that point Chauvin would have zero reason, if that's what Chauvin heard, to suspect Floyd might be an OD handgrenade with the pin pulled and spoon out, and couldn't be reasonably expected to know to administer lifesaving measures for an OD or anything of the sort. Furthermore, with Floyd OBVIOUSLY under the influence, Chauvin would have more reason to doubt every word out of Floyd's mouth, up to and including "I CAN'T BREATHE"
 
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Azrn0239 said:
This clip was played while they were talking about the chaos of the situation and how information might not be heard. I took this as the defense showing that Chauvin didn't know that Floyd was ODing.

It just has the added benefit of maybe making the jury think that has did say he took too many drugs.
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Hothead said:
It does the defense's job - instills reasonable doubt.

I mean, that's been done NUMEROUS TIMES ALREADY, but more of that isn't exactly gonna hurt Chauvin's case.
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Did the prosecution object? There is the whole 'can't unring the bell' scenario anyway once it was asked.
 
To further elaborate - "under the influence" could be anything, and if Floyd says it wasn't drugs, he could be lying... or he could have gotten drunk instead, or fuck only knows. And that's the point. Chauvin now has no idea exactly what he's dealing with other than "this dude is flipping his shit and doesn't look like he's clean, but he won't tell me what the fuck he's on if anything". And so Chauvin does what officers usually do and deals with the "flipping his shit" part because THAT is pretty evident and needs to be handled.
 
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Menotaur said:
I don't quite see how Derek walks away from this one, because rather than a case where a cop was stupid and "we" label it "murder", in this case he did try to actually commit murder and did so.

I do not see this case in the same light as other cases where we have had a stupid cop overreacting and then doing something stupid in the heat of the moment. Derek intended to kill Floyd and the evidence is strongly suggesting that premeditated intent was present.

Anyone who has looked at the evidence knows god damn well he did intend to kill him. And did so over many minutes with ample opportunity to reverse course. There is a marked difference I feel with this case.
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Look at how many words this dude used to say "I haven't been watching the thread or trial'.
 
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