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ABC news got report from an “insider” that one specific juror is nodding off during witness questioning.. lol
The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!
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Slight disagreement. They really couldn't put him on just to read his previous statements into the record, because that would be hearsay. Despite the sound of "hearsay," it just means any out of court statement, "OTOMA." That goofy acronym means "offered for the truth of the matter asserted." So if you're entering some out of court statement to prove that what was said was true, in some out of court statement, for which there is no cross examination available (in this case because the witness repeatedly takes the Fifth), it's inadmissible.
But the state could grant him immunity if they so chose.
There are also degrees of admissibility. For instance, for something fully admissible, either party can request the jury just be given a copy of it, or even the jury itself can request a copy. In other cases, the document can be displayed on a screen or otherwise shown to the jury, but they don't get a copy. And in other cases, it can be admissible for some very limited purpose, and you'll notice the "refresh your recollection" thing where officers are allowed (or forced) to consult their own written report, under the legal fiction that they're just using it to improve their memory of some event that happened maybe years ago that they don't even remember at all. In the latter case, the jury never sees the actual document at all.
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Man, I wish Chauvin killed a better looking person. George looks like a fucking used mattress.
Is it too much to have a more photogenic black messiah.
Obama was top shit, fit for those CHANGE posters. Floyd just has to go looking like a squished ham on ass.
Is it too much to have a more photogenic black messiah.
Obama was top shit, fit for those CHANGE posters. Floyd just has to go looking like a squished ham on ass.
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Rate me late on this - it takes a while for good stuff to reach the shores of Blighty and I'm thick, so have to think about stuff for a bit - but, are we now at a point where prosecution witnesses have testified the following...
That a black man may have provided the drugs which may have contributed to the death of the late Mr Floyd.
That a black man in the crowd of bystanders was behaving in a way that was potentially so threatening that Ex-Officer Chauvin was within correct procedure to prioritise monitoring the safety of the scene over providing CPR to the soon-to-be late Mr Floyd.
That a black chief of police, ex-officer Chauvin's boss, has testified that, in his opinion, Chauvin's knee was on the shoulder blade, rather than the neck, of the departed?
Black lives certainly seem to matter in this case, as those three black lives seem to have helped establish reasonable doubt for the defence before the defence has even called its first witness.
Those are all testimonies of black men, or actions incontrovertibly carried out by black men which seem to have significantly contributed to a solid reasonable doubt outcome to this trial.
Are any of you clever legal types aware of whether a judge can overrule a jury verdict? If, for whatever reason, the jury decide Officer-as-was Chauvin is guilty of some kind of devilry, could their decision be put aside by the judge who rules on strict application of legal principle rather than 'I'm going for a guilty verdict as I dont want to see my entire family offed before I get a bullet to the head' jury decision?
If any of you Ameri-kiwis want to flee the country till the mostly peaceful, post-judgement protests die down, I have a spare room with bunk beds, but whoever takes the bottom bunk would have to share with an elderly, flatulent cat. Caveat emptor, as they say.
That a black man may have provided the drugs which may have contributed to the death of the late Mr Floyd.
That a black man in the crowd of bystanders was behaving in a way that was potentially so threatening that Ex-Officer Chauvin was within correct procedure to prioritise monitoring the safety of the scene over providing CPR to the soon-to-be late Mr Floyd.
That a black chief of police, ex-officer Chauvin's boss, has testified that, in his opinion, Chauvin's knee was on the shoulder blade, rather than the neck, of the departed?
Black lives certainly seem to matter in this case, as those three black lives seem to have helped establish reasonable doubt for the defence before the defence has even called its first witness.
Those are all testimonies of black men, or actions incontrovertibly carried out by black men which seem to have significantly contributed to a solid reasonable doubt outcome to this trial.
Are any of you clever legal types aware of whether a judge can overrule a jury verdict? If, for whatever reason, the jury decide Officer-as-was Chauvin is guilty of some kind of devilry, could their decision be put aside by the judge who rules on strict application of legal principle rather than 'I'm going for a guilty verdict as I dont want to see my entire family offed before I get a bullet to the head' jury decision?
If any of you Ameri-kiwis want to flee the country till the mostly peaceful, post-judgement protests die down, I have a spare room with bunk beds, but whoever takes the bottom bunk would have to share with an elderly, flatulent cat. Caveat emptor, as they say.
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This is actual legal advice: don't scream at cops. I was once arrested for being someone with the same name. Except that guy was 45 fucking years old at the time and I was 20. Did I chimp out? No. Did I go to court? Nope, didn't do that either. They got me to the police station and who was there but a long time family friend who happened to be a cop. And I said, these idiots think I am some 45 year old guy with the same name. And he chewed them out and they let me go.
And I forget my point. Oh, yeah, have cops as friends.
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Seppo judges can rule a not-guilty over the jury, but not a guilty over the jury.
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If true, can you really blame any of them?
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Wouldn't you be pretty pissed if the police pulled you over to tell you that your car is stolen and your car isn't stolen?
The sheer incompetence of law enforcement and their utter lack of accountability should concern anyone.
Roughly the same time his incident occurred cops in Aurora pulled over a black family at gun point, tried to handcuff a six year old, and made them lay on the hot asphalt because their van's plate was reported stolen
The reality is the van shared the same plate number as a MOTORCYCLE reported stolen out of a neighboring state. Literally 30 seconds and some common sense would have told you that a motorcycle plate is smaller than a car plate and they couldn't be the same vehicle.
The cops are so eager to go LARP as seal team six they can't be bothered to validate the most basic elements of a case.
Aurora Police Department apologizes after officers draw weapons on Black family in stolen vehicle mix-up
Aurora, Colorado, police issued an apology Monday after drawing guns on a woman and four minors after mistaking her car for one that had been stolen.www.cnn.com
"This car is reported stolen."
"Well it isn't."
"Oh, right then, carry on."
Moon logic.
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State witness list (converted to jpg):
pdf is also attached.
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The real story here is cops apparently do look out for stolen cars, and I assumed they just made up some lie about how they would keep an eye out.
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Awful lot of clowns at this circus.
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Your site must be in a sad state with even sadder people to have a dedicated suicide prevention hotline button.
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Don't listen to him. It's a trap.
To stay kind of on-topic, today seems like a slow day. I can guess prosecution has been urging their expert witnesses "Do not admit the knee is on the back!!" in the interim between yesterday and today. Even with Nelson walking the LA Glowie through it, he refused to outright state it. This next guy seems like he'll be even stronger for the prosecution. Maybe Swisher(?)'s best day in court yet since the beginning.
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We have that, too. It's called a "judgment notwithstanding the verdict." Similarly, the judge cannot overrule an acquittal.
I should note that unlike a jury acquittal (which means you are completely immune to further prosecution on that specific charge), the prosecution can appeal a JNOV.
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"What did you do with that pipe?"
"Scraped it for resin, which I then put in my 4-foot regulation bong."
"Scraped it for resin, which I then put in my 4-foot regulation bong."
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I have yet to see a circumstance where screaming at the cops benefits you, so I agree.
And before somebody shouts that this is "fascist bootlicker advice!" just remember that you have a range of options. There is a big difference between 'Officer, I do not consent to a search' and 'FUCK YOU PIG! YOU CANT SEARCH SHIT IF YOU TRY ILL KILL YOU!!' Your rights can be protected much more effectively with firm politeness and a good attorney.
Choose wisely.
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Holy shit, those poor jurors. I had no idea that the number witness would be this abundant, and this is just the prosecution's list. The opening letter says that the witnesses "may" be called, so I wonder whether or not we should expect to see almost all of them.
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The Sun cucked out. Live chat is disabled.
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nigga what the fuck is that image
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Nelson on tech support duty for the pros now.
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