The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

[Sheryl Nome]

Lmao you can't even prove it was specifically because of Chauvin or because of the general stress of the arrest. He was already screaming about breathing problems before he got in the car. There is so much reasonable doubt here that you're clinging to straws.

Also still waiting for the proof that Chauvin and the other cops who are being charged as accessories planned to murder Floyd for buying bananas with counterfeits.

You don't have to plan something for it to be murder. I know you don't understand that. Exacerbating the general stress of the arrest by placing the knee restraint on him killed him. The examiner just said it. Thats at the very least Manslaughter.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I'm watching the medical examiner rn live on court TV and he seems to at least be professional

This is the most professional witness so far.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

If the act of being arrested killed him, then its not Chauvins fault because it would have happened with any cop.

Sure, except 'any cop' may not have placed him in the knee restraint that was against department policy. Which is a big issue.

 

[brap_connoiseur_420]

if nelson cant get anything out of cross, itll probably be over. at that point its a "chauvin followed police policy"

It's not over until Nelson brings on his own witnesses.

 

[Merry]

You don't have to plan something for it to be murder. I know you don't understand that. Exacerbating the general stress of the arrest by placing the knee restraint on him killed him. The examiner just said it. Thats at the very least Manslaughter.

And yet you still can't prove Chauvin did any of that with his knee on the shoulder blade and had any reckless intent in the process.

You found a scapegoat for your dead black, congrats.

 

[Sithis]

Lmao you can't even prove it was specifically because of Chauvin or because of the general stress of the arrest. He was already screaming about breathing problems before he got in the car. There is so much reasonable doubt here that you're clinging to straws.

Also still waiting for the proof that Chauvin and the other cops who are being charged as accessories planned to murder Floyd for buying bananas with counterfeits.

iirc "halp me momma i cant breeve" was also a semi-regular skit of his that he had performed on prior arrests.
This world is gay though so Chauvin will probably get slammed with 1st degree as an example to be made by the rabid mob.

 

[Pizza Munch]

Sure, except 'any cop' may not have placed him in the knee restraint that was against department policy. Which is a big issue.

I thought someone said that it wasn’t against policy but it wasn’t in their procedures? Someone correct me if I’m wrong?

 

[Meth Head Care Bear]

You don't have to plan something for it to be murder. I know you don't understand that. Exacerbating the general stress of the arrest by placing the knee restraint on him killed him. The examiner just said it. Thats at the very least Manslaughter.

Chauvin did exactly what he was trained to do. I know you don't understand that but whatever problem you have, take it up with the MPD.

Edit: typo

 

[Obscure Creature]

This witness will be hard to cross. I still don’t feel like there’s enough solid evidence to say that Chauvin killed the dude. At least intentionally. Floyd had health conditions no one was aware of freaked the fuck out leading to his death. The restraint obviously complicated that. He was already complaining before he was on the ground which is important to remember.

 

[Niggernerd]

iirc "halp me momma i cant breeve" was also a semi-regular skit of his that he had performed on prior arrests.
This world is gay though so Chauvin will probably get slammed with 1st degree as an example to be made by the rabid mob.

And they'll still riot.
I'm honestly surprised the people haven't realized no matter what it'll happen anyways

 

[PrinceofAllCucks]

In american law you take your victim as you find them, his underlying issues do not excuse Chauvin's actions.

Wasn't saying it excuses Chauvin, just that being put into that situation probably did get GF a bit too hyped, and if he hadn't been so doped up he may have survived. Chauvin still shouldn't have kept him in the hold so long, but dude was on some shit that, with everything combined, ended up offing him.

Again, to make it clear, I'm not arguing whether Chauvin is at fault or not, just that dumb decisions were equally made on Floyd's part that lead to him losing the banana he danced so hard for.

 

[Special Agent Punchy]

What are the odds old pros is holding off on asking for an unequivocal opinion until redirect so he can snatch the last word?

 

[AnOminous]

If the act of being arrested killed him, then its not Chauvins fault because it would have happened with any cop.

He had to be arrested. If they didn't arrest him, they would have been incredibly negligent to the public letting an extremely intoxicated man drive off in a car, wasted out of his gourd, and likely to kill random pedestrians. The question then becomes what level of force was necessary to restrain this dangerous criminal.

And that is what George Floyd was. A dangerous, delirious criminal, a threat to everyone in the public he encountered. He had to be stopped. He could not be allowed just to drive off, fucked up out of his mind and probably literally dying from an OD, to threaten the public.

Anyone who disagrees is a drooling fucking idiot and should kill themselves immediately.

 

[murdered meat bag]

no pills in stomach, rip chauvin

 

[Sheryl Nome]

And yet you still can't prove Chauvin did any of that with his knee on the shoulder blade and had any reckless intent in the process.

You found a scapegoat for your dead black, congrats.

"Reckless intent?" The fuck is that even supposed to mean. You're stringing together words you know are used in legal settings without using them.
The manslaughter Chauvin is charged with is

(1) by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another; or
Chauvin just needs to have been 'negligent' or to create an 'unreasonable risk'

 

[Feline Supremacist]

You don't have to plan something for it to be murder. I know you don't understand that. Exacerbating the general stress of the arrest by placing the knee restraint on him killed him. The examiner just said it. Thats at the very least Manslaughter.

It has to be so beyond the realm of what any normal person would do, so reckless that he should known it would have caused death, how is he supposed to know this is a lifelong scumbag drug addicted criminal with an enlarged heart, adrenaline secreting tumor, bad lungs and sickle trait who was on so many drugs he forgot to breef? Called Miss Cleo for advice on subduing Floyd? Nigga please.

Also this is what happens when you are kind and considerate with these bums.

 

[Pizza Munch]

no pills in stomach, rip chauvin

Visibly. The ME didn’t test the contents tho

 

[Sheryl Nome]

It has to be so beyond the realm of what any normal person would do, so reckless that he should known it would have caused death, how is he supposed to know this is a lifelong scumbag drug addicted criminal with an enlarged heart, adrenaline secreting tumor, bad lungs and sickle trait who was on so many drugs he forgot to breef? Called Miss Cleo for advice on subduing Floyd? Nigga please.

Also this is what happens when you are kind and considerate with these bums.

Thats for 2nd degree murder.

For manslaughter you just need -negligence-

 

[Ari Gold]

We back

 

[Chicken Picnic]

And yet you still can't prove Chauvin did any of that with his knee on the shoulder blade and had any reckless intent in the process.

You found a scapegoat for your dead black, congrats.

He was prone tho, which puts a lot more stress on the diaphragm and can make it harder to breathe. They could argue if they had rolled him to his side, it may have gone different. Before Chauvin had arrived, Floyd wasn't being restrained. He seemed to be the one who initiated the whole process of getting him out of the car and on the floor. The prosecution could then argue because of that, it was his fault.

There have been a number of cases in the UK, not by police, but by mental health units, where patients have died because they were restrained face down during a crisis. There has been ongoing campaigning to ban the practice and all NHS services advise against using prone position during restraint as it is risky.