The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

[DumbDude42]

I was wondering about what happens to him if he gets acquitted on all charges. He can't go back to the police, most normies already deem him guilty so he'll struggle to get a normal job, and he'll be ostracised from the community (other than his friends/family). Gonna be a rough few years. I wonder if he has any civil action he can take.

police union might stand up for him
if found not guilty, could possibly sue the department for wrongful termination
his wife filed for divorce shortly after his arrest last year, but that might just have been her attempt to get the heat off her own back, we dont know if she really left him for good

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

Legal question: I have been taking shots of vodka, and then chasing that with orange juice, am I drinking screwdrivers?

No. You’re just Ethan Ralph at that point.

 

[Bill The Fucker]

Defense's strategy seems pretty clear at this point. If he died from heart complications from the general stress of the situation combined with preexisting conditions rather than his breathing being restricted from the neck hold itself (which they'll likely establish as a perfectly standard manuver considering it's in their fucking manual), then it's going to be extremely tough to get a 12 person jury to unanimously convict on either murder charge. Manslaughter would still very much be on the table as one could argue that the signs of Floyd having an actual episode and not just faking warranted better intervention, although I'd imagine the defense calling back the EMT is to get her to really hammer home how difficult it is to assess those signs when you're surrounded by an angry mob. I think people that are 100% convinced of an inevitable conviction are jumping the gun a bit.

 

[Buttfuck McGee Returns]

So, what cursed argument are we having this weekend to pass the time?

I personally would like to suggest gender reform

 

[Probably An Autist]

So, what cursed argument are we having this weekend to pass the time?

what affect does sneed posting have on the enjoyability of the trial and stream chats

 

[AmazingEagle]

My assumption is that, if found innocent, he would be in line for huge compensation from the news corporations and activist groups that openly said he was a racist murderer.

But that's a big if, brother.

Hell, something similar happened after The Washington Post settled their lawsuit with Nick Sandmann after his 2019 encounter with Nathan Philipps.

 

[Buttfuck McGee Returns]

what affect does sneed posting have on the enjoyability of the trial and stream chats

Sneeding in moderation is 100% beneficial. However, if one person, or a group, were to sneed in excess (god forbid) there is only one outcome.





Mild frustration

 

[AnOminous]

Yakub was the villian in Kang lore.

I said that because I am a YT, the villainous, pasty minion of Yakub, spawned to be the eternal enemy of the Negroid race.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/04/09/george-clooney-emailing-advice-to-george-floyds-family-lawyer-during-derek-chauvin-murder-trial/

How is this not meddling with actual law? Wouldn’t this technically be considered a crime?

George Floyd Clooney has found what may be the ultimate virtue signal: emailing unhelpful advice to the lawyers. wow

But I don't see it being a crime, and does Benjamin Crump even have anything to do with this trial? His job was bagging that $27 million settlement.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Niggas be mad those coolies in Xinjiang stealing their cotton business. BLM is just a cry for attention to take back what's rightfully theirs.

Million dollar homes in California?

funny you should say that...

 

[LurkTrawl]

George Floyd Clooney has found what may be the ultimate virtue signal: emailing unhelpful advice to the lawyers. wow

But I don't see it being a crime, and does Benjamin Crump even have anything to do with this trial? His job was bagging that $27 million settlement.

Wasn't Clooney one of the guys who gave an award speech at some ceremony (oscars or some such) that made him look like a complete self-absorbed narcissist? Iirc it was about the same level as Kanye's infamous "I'mma let you finish" speech.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Wasn't Clooney one of the guys who gave an award speech at some ceremony (oscars or some such) that made him look like a complete self-absorbed narcissist? Iirc it was about the same level as Kanye's infamous "I'mma let you finish" speech.

He was doing like dinners for the Biden campaign where like gazillions of dollars were being raised and then iiirc regretted how much money those dinners generated.

 

[Bonanza Jellybean]

Wasn't Clooney one of the guys who gave an award speech at some ceremony (oscars or some such) that made him look like a complete self-absorbed narcissist? Iirc it was about the same level as Kanye's infamous "I'mma let you finish" speech.

Yes, at the Oscar's. He basically takes credit, on behalf of Hollywood, for the civil rights movement. They made a South Park episode about it ("Smug Alert")

 

[Plank]

Manslaughter would still very much be on the table as one could argue that the signs of Floyd having an actual episode and not just faking warranted better intervention, although I'd imagine the defense calling back the EMT is to get her to really hammer home how difficult it is to assess those signs when you're surrounded by an angry mob. I think people that are 100% convinced of an inevitable conviction are jumping the gun a bit.

609.205 MANSLAUGHTER IN THE SECOND DEGREE.
Sec. 609.205 MN Statutes

(1) by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another;

That is a huge leap for any jury to condemn someone to up to ten years in prison.

You have an officer who was:

• Carrying out actions that are explicitly in his training
• Using official MPD arrest procedures which have been used hundreds of times with no one ever dying before
• Facing a hostile crowd expressing verbal threats
• Using a lower level of allowable force to deal with an uncooperative/physically resisting suspect
• Actively trying to get medical treatment for the suspect as fast as possible

Not only those caveats, but in addition the defense has already got the prosecutions own witnesses admit to carrying out siimilar types of arrests and treatment of uncooperative/physically resisting suspects without them facing prosecution from death or serious injury for their suspect.

The wording of the manslaughter charge just does not fit the facts of this case. An officer in a car chase killing a pedestrian or an officer firing at a suspect in a crowd or in a building without knowing who else is in the building. But not an officer who had their EMT arrive late while facing a hostile crowd.

I think too many people continue to think of manslaughter as some form of lesser murder or killing someone without intent. The jurors are going to go back to their deliberation room and be tasked with just the facts entered in evidence and the text of the three Minnesota charges and do their best to weigh what they have before them.

Perhaps they will have that fucking Chauvin knee picture or the sob calling out for Mama burned in their minds. Or they as has been stated over and over again, the jury just doesn't want to be murdered by a BLM/Antifa mob. But aside from that possibility, 'unreasonable'? 'consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm'? That is a huge leap right now and the defense hasn't even begun their presenting their evidence.

 

[AnOminous]

609.205 MANSLAUGHTER IN THE SECOND DEGREE.
Sec. 609.205 MN Statutes

What's almost more important than the statute itself is what the jury is told to do with it. Here are the proposed jury instructions in this case. Here are the State's proposed instructions.

Surprisingly, both sides have actually just more or less recommended the pattern instructions.

MANSLAUGHTER IN THE SECOND DEGREE—ELEMENTS The elements of manslaughter in the second degree, as alleged here, are: First, the death of George Floyd must be proven.

We definitely have this one. That nigga is dead.

Second, the defendant, acting alone or aided by others, caused the death of George Floyd by culpable negligence, whereby the defendant created an unreasonable risk and consciously took a chance of causing death or great bodily harm.

“To cause” means to be a substantial causal factor in causing the death. The defendant is criminally liable for all the consequences of his actions that occur in the ordinary and natural course of events, including those consequences brought about by one or more intervening causes that were the natural result of the defendant's acts. The fact that other causes contribute to the death does not relieve the defendant of criminal liability.

However, the defendant is not criminally liable if a “superseding cause” caused the death. A “superseding cause” is a cause that comes after the defendant's acts, alters the natural sequence of events, and produces a result that would not otherwise have occurred. An action that occurs before the defendant’s conduct and is not the sole cause of the death does not constitute a superseding cause. “Culpable negligence” is intentional conduct that the defendant may not have intended to be harmful, but that an ordinary and reasonably prudent person would recognize as involving a strong probability of injury to others.

Note: here is where the important stuff starts. This is about the difference between "culpable" negligence and the other kinds of lesser negligence that would apply in a civil case.

Culpable negligence is more than ordinary negligence or gross negligence. It is gross negligence coupled with recklessness. “Recklessness” is a conscious disregard of a substantial and unjustifiable risk of death or great bodily harm to others. The defendant, however, need not have intended to cause harm.

“Great bodily harm” means bodily injury that creates a high probability of death, or causes serious permanent disfigurement, or causes a permanent or protracted loss or impairment of the function of any bodily member or organ or other serious bodily harm.

Third, the defendant’s act took place on May 25, 2020 in Hennepin County.

The defendant is charged with committing this crime or intentionally aiding the commission of this crime. If you find that each of these elements has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, the defendant is guilty of this charge. If you find that any element has not been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, the defendant is not guilty of this charge, unless you find that the State has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is liable for this crime committed by another person according to the aiding-and-abetting instruction below.

 

[Jarolleon]

So many cartoons showing basic elementary concepts that are completely irrelevant. The only upside is that I now know who the prosecution will call next:
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So blatant diversity casting was done that long ago? Maybe the culture war has frozen in 1990.

 

[Lil Weed Lova]

not even that. to these people, the one and only thing that really drives them is this single picture:
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that's all they need, that's what drives their emotional response to the case, that's what fuels their outrage. all the boring details of the case don't matter, only this picture does.

Was kind of expecting for Nelson to try and use this very image against the prejudice it created by stating that it clearly depicts Chauvin paying attention to the angry and potentially dangerous crowd.

 

[Plank]

I was wondering about what happens to him if he gets acquitted on all charges. He can't go back to the police, most normies already deem him guilty so he'll struggle to get a normal job, and he'll be ostracised from the community (other than his friends/family). Gonna be a rough few years. I wonder if he has any civil action he can take.

I say this with the honest belief that Chauvin did exactly what he was trained to do and believed it was the best way to get this piece of garbage junky/criminal safely to the hospital to recover and face the consequences of his illegal actions. And ensure the safety of himself, his fellow officers, EMTs, and bystanders.

I think it is safe to assume the mainstream media will double down on the racist cop narrative and milk the outrage for every single bit of ratings they can.

But I think a Chauvin acquittal is a once in a lifetime opportunity for a large number of people in the black community who aren't part of the lunatic BLM/victimhood cult.

One of the lessons of the idiotic defund the police movements has been just how strong the support for the police is in the general/non-activist balck community. Unsurprisingly since their population concentrations are the most affected by crime. I would not be surprised that there are large numbers of normal, intelligent, hard working black people who are furious this absolute piece of shit human has become the patron saint of their community/race.

I don't think there could be anything healthier than a large number of those members of the black community to come out and show their support for Chauvin and make it clear that Floyd was nothing more than an embarrassment to their community and they support the police.

Personal responsibility, law and order aren't just for white people. And stop burning down our fucking communities you worthless race grifters.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Imagine a world where instead of police interactions being the primary concern regarding black people, it instead was obesity, career paths, and dismantling minstrel show marketing from corporations and social justice woke crowds.

"Drop the mix tape and learn to program."

 

[The Last Stand]

Imagine a world where instead of police interactions being the primary concern regarding black people, it instead was obesity, career paths, and dismantling minstrel show marketing from corporations and social justice woke crowds.

"Drop the mix tape and learn to program."

I would think if you respected yourself, police interactions like this would lessen. Or hopefully, you'd have a better case of defense.