The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
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I just read through the highlights of the last 200 pages and I'm still not sure what's going on as of late. Anyone care to bring me up to speed?
The prosecution is chugging cocks in terms of witnesses, the medical examiner said that Nigger Floyd was alive all the way to the hospital on Friday.
 
Call me a prude or whatever but I don't particularly want to see it all burn. I'm well out of range if any potential chimp outs and shitposting while the world burns can be entertaining but this shit is ruining lives of lots of people who don't deserve that shit. There are many normies just wanting a quiet life, there are fellow kiwis who can't leave their urban hell holes for one reason or another and I don't want them to lose their possessions or even lives because some media shithead decided they wanted to fuel a chimp out.
I do. I want people to suffer until they die out or finally get it through their thick near non-sentient heads the hell they've created for everyone including themselves and try to do better next time.
After the past decade of insanity, I'm past the point of wanting everyone to hash it out and "get along" and not suffer what they've brought upon themselves.
 
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Call me a prude or whatever but I don't particularly want to see it all burn. I'm well out of range if any potential chimp outs and shitposting while the world burns can be entertaining but this shit is ruining lives of lots of people who don't deserve that shit. There are many normies just wanting a quiet life, there are fellow kiwis who can't leave their urban hell holes for one reason or another and I don't want them to lose their possessions or even lives because some media shithead decided they wanted to fuel a chimp out.
I do. I want people to suffer until they die out or finally get it through their thick near non-sentient heads the hell they've created for everyone including themselves and try to do better next time.
After the past decade of insanity, I'm past the point of wanting everyone to hash it out and "get along" and not suffer what they've brought upon themselves.
Its sucks because I can understand both points here. I don't want this country to go to hell further because the media is up their own asses however, things won't get better until they get worse first. Thing is, will normies really see the errors of their way or just double down because what they were told?
 
Its sucks because I can understand both points here. I don't want this country to go to hell further because the media is up their own asses however, things won't get better until they get worse first. Thing is, will normies really see the errors of their way or just double down because what they were told?
I could care less if the cities get a bit toasty again, since they vote all the craziness in to begin with.
And as doomerish as I am, I do think most people disagree with most Clown World antics, they just don't say anything out of fear of getting stamped out. When the economy flatlines, we'll just have to see what comes of that shitshow.
 
finally get it through their thick near non-sentient heads the hell they've created for everyone including themselves
Not gonna happen.
Even when the Summer of Love was in full swing they claimed that the chimpouts were only happening because nazis predicted said chimpouts. Niggers were breaking their windows with rocks and they just kneeled and apologized for being too huwite. NPCs could be bleeding out after getting jogged on and still blame it on socioeconomic factors and poor education.
Let the enablers be the first to die in the upcoming riots, it's what their ancestors would have wanted.
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I don't believe it is either incompetence or deliberately spiking.

We are seeing the court system work as intended when given a garbage case. The prosecution is doing its job presenting one side of the evidence and the defense is unsurprisingly devastating the poor evidence presented. If the prosecution was trying to spike the case, I don't think they would have had their final desperation medical evidence witness. I assume he got a stern talking to by the prosecution that he wasn't going to give a single inch on cross after the disastrous outcomes of his predecessors on the stand.

I see this case as absurd as if Chauvin was being put on trial for the murder of JFK in Dallas in 1963 because there is someone in the footage of the event that looks like Chauvin. The prosecution dutifully is going to put their evidence before the jury. And the defense is going to destroy the case before it even gets to the defense's turn for presenting evidence.

This case is the result of 'community leaders' and people outside the prosecutors office demanding a conviction. Prosecutors don't like taking cases they aren't certain they can't win. There is really no major evidence we know of now that we don't know of a year ago. The two murder charges are pure fantasy and nothing but appeasement for those forces outside the prosecutors office.

And the manslaughter charge is something you could give the evidence to any prosecutor and they would yell at you for wasting their time.
  • A dangerous and possibly lethal mix of drugs taken/swallowed by the suspect in desperation to avoid going to jail?
  • The suspect in that condition behind the wheel of a vehicle?
  • The suspect engaged in illegal activity just before the incident?
  • The suspect claiming medical problems before the arresting officers had physical contact with him?
  • The suspect foaming at the mouth?
  • The suspect not-cooperating/fighting with the arresting officers?
  • The suspect requesting to be placed on the ground?
  • The suspect being put in a restraint right out of the MPD training material?
  • The ambulance getting lost and having to have the arresting officer upgrade to a Code 3?
  • Any angry crowd expressing threats to the arresting officers while waiting for the delayed ambulance?
That is just off the top of my head. This case is utter garbage. It is nothing but reasonable doubt. No prosecution office in the country could have made this case less of a disaster without outright malfeasance from the judge or prosecution witnesses who were willing to outright lie about the evidence to the extent the final medical witness did.

If the prosecution office had integrity they would have absolutely refused to participate in this show trial.
Remember that these bamboos burned a quarter of their own country last summer, how the mainstream media flamed these riots, and even when some of their reporters getting attacked by these niggers live, people still voted for Biden and his party that engineered not only the riots but also stopped Trump from preventing the spread of the coronavirus, like restricting & barring travels from China and Europe, cause it was a racist thing to do.

My point is no matter how utter garbage this case may be, people will still think the chauvin trial is a shame, they'll think Fentanyl Floyd died cause of police brutality and the demonrats will unleash their pets back into the street.

TLDR: Fuck niggers
 
Not gonna happen.
Even when the Summer of Love was in full swing they claimed that the chimpouts were only happening because nazis predicted said chimpouts. Niggers were breaking their windows with rocks and they just kneeled and apologized for being too huwite. NPCs could be bleeding out after getting jogged on and still blame it on socioeconomic factors and poor education.
Let the enablers be the first to die in the upcoming riots, it's what their ancestors would want.
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Those are city dwellers who voted and helped all this to come to be, so they can suffer whatever comes.
And joggers will never get anywhere near hurting the political supporters of them, since they'll be in safe gated communities surrounded by guards.
 
Dems banking on the strategy of demoralization, full press all the way through 2024. Using media to drive narratives, using tech to silence opponents (thus making dissenting lurkers feel alone in their views), and pushing their agenda to please their own constituents enough to get them to show up back at the polls.

2022 will be a checkpoint for future evaluation. I suspect they would hope that this tactic works enough that they actually gain seats , and thus double down.

The big question is going to be if this full court press will have the effect of mobilizing the opposition. They wish for you to forget how close the margin of victory was for Biden in quite a few battleground states. Something like 74 million people voted for Trump. Which means they are either riding that train or they disagree so much with Dems that they did a spitevote.

The thing about people who love to virtue signal is that posting shit on Twitter, changing your avatar to something cringey... these things take the place of real change, because these peoppe feel their duty to society has been fulfilled simply by saying something. So there is a sort of culture of this lazy activism.

When you combine this with the fact that Trump is not running in 2022, you can see how this might not get a lot of their voters over to the polls. Not to mention with Biden at the helm, the pressure is on him and other dems to actually do all the shit they have been threatening the last 4 years. Their constituents want to see results.

We see this added pressure with all the different facets they are attacking. Proposing gun bills, Supreme Court packing, and pushing foreign conflicting intervebtion seems like they are throwing a thousand darts and hoping one will hit. Because it is hardly likely too many of these things will pass up when scrutinized by the present day Supreme Court. They need something to show for all the bitching and moaning, or else you are going to have the more radical leftists hop off the wagon.

So we see a demoralization focused on the right, and a campaign of darts to reward their own base with. If this does not work out, worst case scenario is that they will drive the narrative of "we tried"....

Yet they do not confront the thinge which may actually be a problem, such as any backlash. Though do expect to see more articles in the media addressing the weaknesses as we get nearer to 2022. These will do just enough that they encourage their voters to the polls, yet without the whole demoralization factor.

it will certainly be interesting to watch.

What bothers me about this trial is that we know the outcome that will occur. Regardless of the verdict. Riots will happen, because nothing is ever good enough.

They expect vengeance via the emotional reaction they have when looking at this case. But emotional reactions are subjective, completely different from person to person. Our issue is thus that they want subjective justice to be served. But that is not how justice works.

Can you imagine a system where the victim or parties with personal interests are allowed to decide the punishment for those who wronged them? How many different suggestions would you get? How would we ever measure justice as fair when everyone has a different measuring stick? What of those who have become monsters themselves in their journey to seeking their own vengeance, wishing for their perpetrator to be ripped apart beyond reason?

I get that this is a problem, that many black people in the US have a living fear of being killed by police - no thanks to the media. But burning shit down doesn't fix anything. Neither does making some average dude who died a martyr for your cause. Your fears are valid, but only to a degree, as fear is a subjective emotion, perceived differently by everyone. You can't expect other people to be able to feel your own emotions, but you can try to communicate. But as humans we must use words over actions - especially when those actions do harm to the more noble parts of your cause.

There is common ground to be found in any idea if you look hard enough. We must stop wasting our time on things we disagree about, and begin with the things we do agree about, working our way out.
My point exactly.
 
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Are you comparing Antifa to Sun Tzu lol
I guess that was an unintentional error on my part lol.

Since the tensions are so high, I thought they do not get away with trying a nationwide chimp out for the second time.

One of the black men videos I posted yesterday talked about how Zimmerman is still alive so I think nothing will happen to Chauvin if he is acquitted.

Not that Chauvin must take it easy but have precautions for himself and arm up if acquitted.
 
Do you think republicans will actually stand by gun rights when the slightest bit of pressure is put on them? Remember how many caved after Parkland when they faced mild harassment?
SCOTUS doesn't give a shit. They can't be fired, and are more or less beyond reprisal. Even if Roberts cucked it would still be 5-4 the other way. And the Second Amendment isn't something he'd even be likely to cuck on, unlike executive power.

So Republicans in Congress can do whatever they like. If it seriously contradicts Heller/McDonald SCOTUS is going to reverse it.

We're reaching the point there's enough Circuit case law that the next major split invites scrutiny. I'm betting the Ninth, but it really could be from anywhere. New York produces some really dumb gun law and it could be from the Second Circuit too.
 
Local law enforcement in every red state is stockpiling more ammunition and weaponry than the national guard and people gobbling up the scraps as fast ss they can. so said the local shopkeeps trying to explain the phenomena and the complete lack of product during the initial two months of Floyd rioting.
I'm the real victim in this. Unironically I finally planned to get into sharpshooting, had a place to do it, and had one of those friends who can magick old ass guns into existance at a decent price.

I had planned to buy a 30/40 Krag rifle 1896 model rifle, cause it looks like a jezzail and is a big beautiful rifle.

I've been waiting for ammo for that gun to be in stock for a fucking year. When it does come up it's snatched up immediately. I spoke to an ammo manufacturer and he said it would cost them about 6 bucks a round, if I provided the brass, because of how much everyone is GUZZLING ammunition.

I can't be a rooftop Korean with my sportified 1968 .22 Carbine. The bullets will just plink off and everyone will laugh at me.
 
I've been waiting for ammo for that gun to be in stock for a fucking year. When it does come up it's snatched up immediately. I spoke to an ammo manufacturer and he said it would cost them about 6 bucks a round, if I provided the brass, because of how much everyone is GUZZLING ammunition.
I was wondering why do I see people collecting the casings and why they asked me at the range if I wanted my casings.
 
I'm the real victim in this. Unironically I finally planned to get into sharpshooting, had a place to do it, and had one of those friends who can magick old ass guns into existance at a decent price.

I had planned to buy a 30/40 Krag rifle 1896 model rifle, cause it looks like a jezzail and is a big beautiful rifle.

I've been waiting for ammo for that gun to be in stock for a fucking year. When it does come up it's snatched up immediately. I spoke to an ammo manufacturer and he said it would cost them about 6 bucks a round, if I provided the brass, because of how much everyone is GUZZLING ammunition.

I can't be a rooftop Korean with my sportified 1968 .22 Carbine. The bullets will just plink off and everyone will laugh at me.
>Didn't get photo-ID reissued in time
>trial will be over by the time it arrives
>nothing but a cracked Remington to my name

I should have moved to a mormon stronghold state, then I might not be fucked.
 
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