The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
  • Poll closed .
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Redditors are incapable of an objective world view. Everything has to be passed through the confirmation bias engine first.
I don't know why people think expert witnesses are anything but biased for their side, this guy is biased for the defense, obviously, he's doing a good job for them, but he's their guy.
 
That antiauthority larp from the kinds of people who went crying to teachers in school when someone called them a faggot are hilarious though. Hell go call them a faggot on their comment and I guarantee they'll go crying to a janny. The anarchy they seem to want won't go the way they think it will.

I wonder how many white Antifa will be flamingly racist in 10 years.

"I thought we were there to get justice for George Floyd but they raped my dog and stole my iPhone."
 
This is a good cross by the prosecution, I still think so far this is positive for the defense
I was thinking the same thing. Where were these guys during direct questioning?

I think it was a pretty bad idea for the witness to cave to the semantics, but Nelson will probably come back to that and correct the record.
 
This use of force witness is the only one that's answered yes or no questions with a "yes" or "no" all trial.
He's so matter of fact about the answers even if it's not exactly in line with the defense's ideals. It makes him a more credible witness IMO. He may say "yes", but as a juror I think I would be thinking "well yes but ...."
 
You know what really cinched the defense's argument was when Cochran had OJ to try on the gloves and they didn't fit (hence the "if it does not fit you must acquit" line). I wonder if Nelson demonstrated the restraint, complete with knee, for a sustained amount of time, showing it doesn't asphyxiate a normal person, if this would work in Chauvin's favor.
 
The prosecution is getting a lot of "coulds" and "possibles" but the prosecution needs "beyond a reasonable doubt". This is like a defense's cross.
the 'coulds' and 'possibles' are actually what he's trying to get. He's not trying to get to 'beyond a reasonable doubt' from this guy, he knows he won't.

What the prosecution is attempting to do is to make the jury distrust the testimony of this guy. So that the jury just throws his testimony out as 'he was talking bullshit'. Which the jury can do.
 
Can you autistic idiots with free time at least occasionally say what the actual fuck is going on instead of memeing because as a wage slave I have no idea what's going on today.
lol I've been thinking this is thread is an awful way to know anything that's going on. This is a pretty good live update on the facts tho if u can't watch:

eta this is in the view of a defense lawyer, he gives a good word for word update on testimony (unbiased), but his opinion are skewed toward the defense. There are good questions in the comments that he answers knowing the law far better than normal people. I've already posted this site before but it is a great resource
 
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They're still equivocating the degree of force used for the crime committed to the degree of force used when handling uncooperative suspects.

Yes, if an armed murderer is being apprehended, they're taking every precaution not to be harmed and wouldn't use that same force against someone committing tax fraud. What the use of force that's actually being argued is the use of force when dealing with any uncooperative suspects.

It's a wholey different perspective on the use of force that they're continually trying to make the same thing.
 
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