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Why? That doesn't make much sense at all.. Did they even bother explaining why they feel regret over something so successful and popular?
Where did all the weeaboos go? - Wheh dey @????
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They don't say much, but one of them said that "what they wrote doesn't match with who they are today". I also can tell that they are pozzed into the SJW Ultra Left shit.
There was actually a US girl who managed to work her ass off on a JET program to become an assistant on Prince of Tennis. Nowadays, she's doing squat.
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Of fucking course. Why did I expect anything else. What happened to the days when being PC wasn't really related to being left or right. That it could be people on either side. Nowadays it seems left are the only ones who fall into the PC shit. Why? Why even bother?
Damn Shame.
Anyway you mentioned Osamu Tezuka, maybe I'm an idiot when I say this, but I feel like he's one of the few dudes who actually dedicated himself to the medium. His entire life he was constantly created stuff and working on his creations, he never regretted or gave it up once, even at his deathbed he basically told some girl to fuck off and let him continue working. I don't wanna sound like some oldfag or elitist snob, but the stuff he created or the stuff that descended from him usually tends to be the only stuff I'm really into, it just feels so much more genuine and real. People over here only seem to remember him for Astro Boy, but there's so much more shit that he did that nobody seems to care about, and the modern movies he inspired from his work after he died are some of my favorite, hands down.
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I know that is a tall order for me to make of people, but even for me, I honestly want to see if there are others who are that dedicated to go that distance in their lives like Tezuka. Tezuka was a doctor and he did have other interests, but there just came a point in his life where he wanted to share his enthusiasm and what he worked on.
With how everyone's going on identity politics and being PC or whatever garbage, I know that even in such conditions, it's not impossible, but it's going to require a massive breakthrough to just smash everything in its way like a bull into a china shop.
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Maybe that will actually be the thing that CAUSES someone to break through and come up with something really groundbreaking. I mean think about it, part of the reason why Japan is known for it's "Strange" and "Unique" stuff is because of how socially conservative and restrictive they really are. That environment is what created these people like Tezuka and the like to think outside the box and come up with ideas that were never really seen anywhere else.
It could be the modern american PC landscape might have a similar effect on creative minds and well, you know the rest.
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It's Current Year.
The cult of "woke" is consuming the West.
So they're turning into SJWs?
The cult of "woke" is consuming the West.
So they're turning into SJWs?
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I'm pretty young, so here's my borderline zoomer perspective on this: they mostly just grew up, or moved onto other things - it's already been said.
I think this may come across as unsurprising, but a lot of the "uguu so kawaii desu!" weebs that I met back in the day were literal children and very young teenagers (possibly the lot of them with autism or such other disorders as well). I was a part of this camp. There was, and still is, a lot of adults that also acted that way, but both groups moved on. The former became more self-aware as they physically grew up and became more mature, whereas the latter never really gained that self-awareness, but anime also just... stopped being niche. There was no real reason for a socially inept manchild to care about it anymore, it stopped being 'unique', a way of rejecting your surroundings, of immersing yourself in something that's new and "cool". At the time, a lot of it resonated with people who wanted to disconnect themselves from the society around them, the mystique of this dream land of Nippon, where every woman is gorgeous, everyone is polite, the economy is amazing, and due to a warped perception because of anime, the idea that you won't be judged for being inept and will make friends and connections easily.
As anime became more mainstream, and by extension more 'boring' and less unique, so did Japan by extension. Problems such as war crime denial, racism, economic issues, ideas that lend credence to the reality that Japan is not a perfect nation as one would believe from hearing about these things secondhand, from anime and from Japanophiles (the people who sourced most of the information on the nation at time; naturally, they would be biased), and so the escapist idea of a mythical island to the East where life was good, where you could 'restart', live in a society that you can adjust to, and be surrounded by pretty girls was gradually worn away. Being a weeb became ironic, an indictment of these ideas of perfection and of running away among people who liked anime, and it mostly became replaced by "god I wish my anime waifu was real" instead: the desire for a perfect reality to exist and replace the current, flawed one, as opposed to the delusion that it already does and you just have to look for it.
So the people who benefited mentally from that sort of shield moved on to something else. Unironically, a lot of them trooned out, because the sort of echochamber and community that troons form actually have a lot of aspects that appeal to the ostracized and to the desperate. But others merely went back to other, niche things, such as cartoons like Steven Universe, or things like that. The mentality that leads to one being a weeb still exists, it just requires the right environment to thrive, and the anime community simply does not provide that anymore; it needs to be found elsewhere. I'm honestly not too familiar with all that's happened afterward, simply because given that I was either a child or a teenager for most of the weeb craze I just didn't follow the same path, but I know for a fact people who would've been Ken-sama weebs back then are still around and doing stuff.
I think this may come across as unsurprising, but a lot of the "uguu so kawaii desu!" weebs that I met back in the day were literal children and very young teenagers (possibly the lot of them with autism or such other disorders as well). I was a part of this camp. There was, and still is, a lot of adults that also acted that way, but both groups moved on. The former became more self-aware as they physically grew up and became more mature, whereas the latter never really gained that self-awareness, but anime also just... stopped being niche. There was no real reason for a socially inept manchild to care about it anymore, it stopped being 'unique', a way of rejecting your surroundings, of immersing yourself in something that's new and "cool". At the time, a lot of it resonated with people who wanted to disconnect themselves from the society around them, the mystique of this dream land of Nippon, where every woman is gorgeous, everyone is polite, the economy is amazing, and due to a warped perception because of anime, the idea that you won't be judged for being inept and will make friends and connections easily.
As anime became more mainstream, and by extension more 'boring' and less unique, so did Japan by extension. Problems such as war crime denial, racism, economic issues, ideas that lend credence to the reality that Japan is not a perfect nation as one would believe from hearing about these things secondhand, from anime and from Japanophiles (the people who sourced most of the information on the nation at time; naturally, they would be biased), and so the escapist idea of a mythical island to the East where life was good, where you could 'restart', live in a society that you can adjust to, and be surrounded by pretty girls was gradually worn away. Being a weeb became ironic, an indictment of these ideas of perfection and of running away among people who liked anime, and it mostly became replaced by "god I wish my anime waifu was real" instead: the desire for a perfect reality to exist and replace the current, flawed one, as opposed to the delusion that it already does and you just have to look for it.
So the people who benefited mentally from that sort of shield moved on to something else. Unironically, a lot of them trooned out, because the sort of echochamber and community that troons form actually have a lot of aspects that appeal to the ostracized and to the desperate. But others merely went back to other, niche things, such as cartoons like Steven Universe, or things like that. The mentality that leads to one being a weeb still exists, it just requires the right environment to thrive, and the anime community simply does not provide that anymore; it needs to be found elsewhere. I'm honestly not too familiar with all that's happened afterward, simply because given that I was either a child or a teenager for most of the weeb craze I just didn't follow the same path, but I know for a fact people who would've been Ken-sama weebs back then are still around and doing stuff.
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I never really understood what this term meant. I was too old to care when all that happened.
I just saw young people enthused about things. God forbid we have that. Now no fun is allowed. The only thing we're allowed to care about now is identity politics.
So instead of nerds dressing up as anime characters we've got dudes dressing like women. Such progress.
I just saw young people enthused about things. God forbid we have that. Now no fun is allowed. The only thing we're allowed to care about now is identity politics.
So instead of nerds dressing up as anime characters we've got dudes dressing like women. Such progress.
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My entire group who used to import DVDs from Japan, buy Naruto headbands, larp daily, try to learn Japanese and read manga more than textbooks all still love anime and watch it. We all just have other responsibilities now and are no longer children. Anime was "new" to the West back then. Those who watch anime have simply learned how to act. "Weeaboo" as a concept was always a small minority of anime-watchers habits extrapolated to the entire group. For most people it always was and remains just a hobby.
Nobody has really gone anywhere, the spotlight just isn't on people who watch anime anymore since it's become mainstream. People are still doing the exact same things, but in an era where Capeshit is incredibly popular where is the mockery going to come from? There are more cons than ever and more anime watchers than ever. There's more cringe than ever. There just aren't people shining a spotlight on the few serious weirdos and saying "HYUCK HYUCK LOOK AT THIS ANIME FAG! THIS IS WHAT ALL THEIR KIND ARE LIKE! LMAO! "
Also, the type of person who would have become a real anime sperg back in the day is now a political sperg , tranny or K-pop sperg today. That kind of Autism is attracted to attention hogging "unique" trends. That's no longer anime.
Nobody has really gone anywhere, the spotlight just isn't on people who watch anime anymore since it's become mainstream. People are still doing the exact same things, but in an era where Capeshit is incredibly popular where is the mockery going to come from? There are more cons than ever and more anime watchers than ever. There's more cringe than ever. There just aren't people shining a spotlight on the few serious weirdos and saying "HYUCK HYUCK LOOK AT THIS ANIME FAG! THIS IS WHAT ALL THEIR KIND ARE LIKE! LMAO! "
Also, the type of person who would have become a real anime sperg back in the day is now a political sperg , tranny or K-pop sperg today. That kind of Autism is attracted to attention hogging "unique" trends. That's no longer anime.
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Which Tokugawa? Ieyasu?
Both are Japanese art, one is Ukiyo-e, the other is anime
Thats pretty much it. I don't enjoy as much current anime, but I pretty much consume the same amount or more manga. Actual adult life tempers that out though, because I need money for said hobby, have other duties, and just not as much time. I also don't wear any subculture on my wrist anymore, because most adults outgrow that. Old animefags still are into the culture, its just less autistic because most of them are adults, and only the real spergs refuse to adapt to that.
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Well there's your problem. The Ultra Woke shit saps the creative energy right out of everything and everyone it touches. The whole point of creativity is being able to consider ideas that others wouldn't, even if those ideas are transgressive. You can't do that if you have a huge list of Thou Shalt Nots holding you down.
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Wow, I had to look her up on Twitter and she's succumbed to the SJW kool-aid. Why does everything have to be political nowadays?
That's extremely sad though to hear about OEL manga artists being ashamed of their past work.
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Thoughts are that they discovered the DarkNet and ventured on into actual kiddie porn.
Either that, or as a Western fad, it's spike in popularity probably peaked with the success of shows like Pokemon anime and DragonBall Z when they were new and trendy, which was probably many "normies" gateway into it.
That, and maybe some of the neckbeards grew out of it when they had actual sex for the first time.
Either that, or as a Western fad, it's spike in popularity probably peaked with the success of shows like Pokemon anime and DragonBall Z when they were new and trendy, which was probably many "normies" gateway into it.
That, and maybe some of the neckbeards grew out of it when they had actual sex for the first time.
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I’d say it’s a mixture of things. The primary reason others touched on, ie they grew up.
I’d say there were other factors at work too. One is that there was a lot less anime and another is it was relatively speaking a new form of entertainment. With anime, cartoons could be very action packed, grim dark, and could fill genres generally not associated with cartoons like horror. Now there’s a lot more adaptations of manga including a lot that are crap and anime has become engrained in our culture. So it’s not as “shiny” as if used to be. The luster has worn off so to speak.
Another major factor that is adjacent to adolescence is ignorance. The whole katana copypasta for example is woefully unaware of the katanas flaws. Some weebs really misunderstood ninjas, samurais, ancient Japanese, etc., which led to dumb assertations. If people studied the culture/history they’d learn how silly some of their ideas were and if they had a modicum of self awareness they’d realize how cringe they came across to everyone - but especially the Japanese. As a lot of weebs grew up they made these realizations so stopped asserting silly things like how katanas were the bestest weapons evah.
I’d say there were other factors at work too. One is that there was a lot less anime and another is it was relatively speaking a new form of entertainment. With anime, cartoons could be very action packed, grim dark, and could fill genres generally not associated with cartoons like horror. Now there’s a lot more adaptations of manga including a lot that are crap and anime has become engrained in our culture. So it’s not as “shiny” as if used to be. The luster has worn off so to speak.
Another major factor that is adjacent to adolescence is ignorance. The whole katana copypasta for example is woefully unaware of the katanas flaws. Some weebs really misunderstood ninjas, samurais, ancient Japanese, etc., which led to dumb assertations. If people studied the culture/history they’d learn how silly some of their ideas were and if they had a modicum of self awareness they’d realize how cringe they came across to everyone - but especially the Japanese. As a lot of weebs grew up they made these realizations so stopped asserting silly things like how katanas were the bestest weapons evah.
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One thing I forgot to mention I think put a bit of wet blanket on anime fandom for a while, that happened in the same year of the Sakura Con ad, was the 2009 Dragon Ball movie.
All that fan speculation throughout the 2000s of Hollywood adaptions of anime like Evangelion and outside of a couple of others like Speed Racer and Aeon Flux the only other one that happened within that decade was the Dragon Ball movie and it was so incredibly lame, it felt like ending a period of excitement with a wet fart.
I don't think it's impact was very long term at all, but I'm just saying it, coupled with the Sakura Con ad, made it a little embarrassing in 2009 to call yourself an anime fan.
In addition to all that some other issues by 2009 was Toonami was gone before it's late night revival in 2012 and most US magazines devoted to anime had either gone defunct that year or went defunct that year (a similar thing was happening to video game magazines), it's crazy to think there was a time when you could find Shonen Jump and Anime Insider on the magazine rack of my local grocery store, but that time is long gone and I think that's reflective of why, though anime itself and the fandom hasn't gone anywhere, there was something special about the time when you could find more of it on US television and more magazines in more places.
All that fan speculation throughout the 2000s of Hollywood adaptions of anime like Evangelion and outside of a couple of others like Speed Racer and Aeon Flux the only other one that happened within that decade was the Dragon Ball movie and it was so incredibly lame, it felt like ending a period of excitement with a wet fart.
I don't think it's impact was very long term at all, but I'm just saying it, coupled with the Sakura Con ad, made it a little embarrassing in 2009 to call yourself an anime fan.
In addition to all that some other issues by 2009 was Toonami was gone before it's late night revival in 2012 and most US magazines devoted to anime had either gone defunct that year or went defunct that year (a similar thing was happening to video game magazines), it's crazy to think there was a time when you could find Shonen Jump and Anime Insider on the magazine rack of my local grocery store, but that time is long gone and I think that's reflective of why, though anime itself and the fandom hasn't gone anywhere, there was something special about the time when you could find more of it on US television and more magazines in more places.
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@furūtsu mentioned the increasing homogeneity of pop culture, and I think this is a huge factor as it seems to be getting more and more rare to find the kind of nerds who are fixated only on a single thing or genre. And that's a defining feature of what weebs are, IMO, that exclusive obsession with Japan. You still have people who embrace that "obsessive nerd" persona these days, probably more than ever, but their interests tend to be all over the place instead of just in a single, well-defined niche like they were in days past.
I go to a very small local anime convention and while it is still mostly teenagers and college kids who are the ones in cosplay getups acting like speds, I'm also starting to see more western cartoons and furry stuff in the mix, which weren't there when weebs were at their peak. It's not all-Japan, all the time like conventions were in years past.
So I think it's more that the original weebs matured and learned how to behave themselves in public to some extent, and the current crop of young people (who are more prone to being embarrassing and weird about their interests) just aren't into a single niche anymore the way the young, embarassing fans of the past tended to be. To them, it's like anime and manga is just part of the nerd buffet alongside Star Wars, Harry Potter, and whatever Cartoon Network thing they're into these days.
I go to a very small local anime convention and while it is still mostly teenagers and college kids who are the ones in cosplay getups acting like speds, I'm also starting to see more western cartoons and furry stuff in the mix, which weren't there when weebs were at their peak. It's not all-Japan, all the time like conventions were in years past.
So I think it's more that the original weebs matured and learned how to behave themselves in public to some extent, and the current crop of young people (who are more prone to being embarrassing and weird about their interests) just aren't into a single niche anymore the way the young, embarassing fans of the past tended to be. To them, it's like anime and manga is just part of the nerd buffet alongside Star Wars, Harry Potter, and whatever Cartoon Network thing they're into these days.