Where did all the weeaboos go? - Wheh dey @????

If you ask me, it's practically the 2008 Great Recession. Nothing is like a hard time like economic hardship. Everyone's still feeling its effects and probably nothing kills artistic pursuits better than to get people to worry about their survival and money.

Another perspective from me is that weeaboos practically killed themselves in the long run. Putting Japan up on a pedestal and thinking you can't make anime anywhere else was one of the bullets.
The 2008 Great Recession had a negative impact on basically everything, there's a clear "before and after" effect on not just anime but also video games for one other example.

The DVD market was already in trouble by the end of the 2000s but the Great Recession certainly didn't help, I think the loss of home video being the focus and the shift towards online fansubs/streaming really changed the tone of anime fandom in the US because now there was less of a disconnect between Japan and the US, now people can watch the latest episodes of an anime in high quality and sometimes even dubbed the same time fans are seeing it in Japan, that alone is a radical change.

Back in the day you had to wait a year or years for a high quality official release or settle for a low quality VHS or online fansub, now there's less of a need for physical anime clubs where you have the one guy that either had the connections for the fansubs or is willing to drop the bucks on expensive DVD sets so the whole club can watch.

More or less what happened is a lot of the mystery surrounding anime, manga and Japan itself that made it intriguing to westerners went away, even in the earlier days of the internet there was still an element of mystery, but the advancement of technology has brought along a lot more knowledge more easily accessible than ever before and sadly some of the mystery goes away, which is what made it interesting in the first place, that sense of discovery where you found an entirely new medium and culture that you knew little to nothing about before.


Uhh sir, Japanese women can and do have rocking tits and amazing asses.
I have seen plenty of Japanese girls with big tits, but Japanese girls with good ass is very rare.

Usually they'll have beautiful faces and nice breasts but a flat ass, many such cases, sad!


Space Dandy was the last good anime.
I haven't seen either of these series yet but Space Dandy and Kill La Kill really seem to mark an end of an era for what anime was, as 2014 weirdly seems to mark the end of an era for a lot of things.

2014 and below was a very different age than our modern world of 2021, that's true not just of anime but of everything.


I wouldn't know about calling anime a fad. A fad is the kind of thing that has little to any significance on the culture other than as a brief and shallow curiosity and novelty. A trend or a boom? I'd call it that. Despite everyone's unwarranted self shame, anime was what reminded everyone that animation and comics could be written for just about anyone and be a legitimate medium while making detractors eat words and look like fucking idiots and dick sucking censorship apologists and sympathizers. Don't even get me started on video games either.

As much as denouncing cartoons and western animation as a whole is pretty fucking stupid, anime, in all of its forms and styles, was the medium that shook shit up, took names, and kicked the morality thumpers in the teeth before telling them to fuck off by the turn of the millennium in and out of Japan, and reminded everyone again that this is what creative freedom and expression looks, sounds, feels, smells, and tastes like. That's what got all of the fans during the boom wanting to create their own anime shit.

I admit though, that lesson is taking quite a bit of a while for others to soak up and comprehend. Weeaboos, on the other hand, like that song by The Offspring, were nothing but posers who "HEY HEY DO THAT BRAND NEW THING".
I think people forget how edgy and ground breaking anime was back in the day.

The only other adult animation kind of like anime I had seen prior to more adult anime was the movie Heavy Metal, first cartoon nudity I ever saw lol, but you always knew Heavy Metal was a bit of an outlier when it comes to western animation, the realization that there was a lot more "adult" anime than there was "adult" western animation was mind blowing, I remember how shocked I was to see something like Gunsmith Cats where you see the girls in their undies, this was after I saw Heavy Metal, but since most of the anime I had seen up to that point had been stuff like Pokemon and DBZ it was still a bit of a shock to see anime with blatant sexual content.

Heavy Metal always had that very late 70s/early 80s "bongwater" smell that you knew was very much of it's time, but seeing anime more recently carry on the idea of adult animation that wasn't a comedy like South Park was mind blowing.


We will never get a 2005-2016 SHAFT again.
Only SHAFT anime I've seen of that era is Maria Holic, but that's one of my favorites, I should definitely check out more but it's a shame to think of that era of SHAFT already being a bygone thing.
 
I'm not entirely sure what is the equivalent of the big three of the 2000s (although One Piece is still running). I know My Hero Academia is in right now but I never seen any socially inept retards from that fandom to the same extent as Narutards. Interestingly, I don't see the same situation with Boruto and even by 2010, Narutards have mellowed out.

Alternate theory: Social media has made it easier to see your antics online so any weeaboo with some semblance of self-awareness will behave. We did not have this in the 2000s.
 
120% of all anime I’ve been exposed to has nothing to do with Japan at all and, if anything, jerks off generic European folk tale settings instead. The waifus are all big titty blonde women with names like “Yakuza Hirohito” and shit like that. It’s completely detached from the culture that makes it, carries a feeling of even disinterest in it, and that makes it even more hatable if you’re somebody who likes Japan as a subject of study in itself.
I'm a Japanophile who dislikes anime and manga, and couldn't quite figure out why. But yeah I'd say this hits the nail on the head. Too much outside influence in it.

As for furfags, even they got boring af and borderline on the way to normieism. I've been watching the fagdom for over 15 years, it's a shell of its former self.
 
Honestly, 2008 was probably the biggest factor. Anime went into survival mode just like many other industries. Most studios had to rely on moe or near-hentai (In the case of Princess Lover, actual hentai after the show was over to draw in more money) to survive. High school tier stories not only became more common, but the norm for many years. (Isekai is the new current trend.) Even today, a LOT of stuff feels by the numbers and exploitative instead to trying to be good storytelling. Yes, good stuff and gems still exist, but the quantity just isn't the same as years ago.

Also, the rise of social media killed a lot of niche social groups. (Early 2000's goths are another group from that era all but gone now.)

Beyond that, it's still pretty popular and is running circles around American comics.
 
Weaboos still exists, in the sense that its people who feel they have some connection with Japanese culture and heritage simply from watching anime and reading manga.
Most of these people are on twitter, they're obsessed with sailor moon, yuri and yaoi and think these works somehow demonstrate that Japan is the most 'woke' country in the world.
 
The autistic answer to this is that they come and go.

New anime gets popular in the west: Weebs everywhere

Day-to-day shit only manga/anime die-hards are into: The occasional bad cosplayer and people autistically arguing about bestgirls in various forums

Most of your hilarious weebs are the same kinds of people that occupy the consoomer thread. Whatever fandom they're involved in, they're only involved in because it's popular. Their lives consist on enveloping themselves in whatever consoomer trend is popular at that time. They do this because their lives are empty, and when they see other people whose lives are not empty flocking to something, they just naturally jump in because they assume that this time they've found that missing piece in their lives.
 
I'm still good friends with a few of them, they just keep to themselves these days and/or they got old
That we did. That we did.....

As for there not being spergy retardation about new shows, I dunno man. A lot of the only slapfights about My Hero Academia and Attack on Titan remind me of the online slapfights that would go down about Naruto, Bleach, or even all the way back to Ranma 1/2. It's all just Twitter and Tumblr posting now, though, which really seems to suck the energy out of the whole fandom.
 
It doesn’t help that most modern anime are just forgettable isekai garbage and reboots. It’s harder these days to be passionate about the medium when it’s over saturated with complacent one-note studios just phoning it in and not even trying to make something unique.
 
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Aren't they still there but now scattered across the political spectrum?

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But yeah, like what everyone else has been saying, I guess the Millennials that formed the core weeaboo community grew up and moved away from anime, and anime became more mainstream and less culturally prominent/iconic in this day and age. So as such, there's still weeaboos (you can always find them at fan conventions), but they're more evenly mixed into the whole fan culture now.

I think the 90s-early 2000s weeaboo culture was born of a specific time and age when anime was becoming widely available but social media and modern internet hadn't taken over yet. As such, you had anime as a cultural product of Japan, but it still took some effort to travel to it, meaning that it was perpetually out of reach as some anime holy land. With modern 1080p Youtube and Google Maps, Japan is merely a click away, meaning that it's shed its mythical status from exposure.
the middlebox is where the last of the centrist weeaboos are at hiding in the shadows cause they are retarded. The other political sides can kiss my fucking ass balls
 
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We were forced to become more self aware due to mockery, once that fucking Sakura Con ad came out in 2009 it was pretty much over as far as what it used to be goes.

I miss the more innocent days of it though, I would say the peak years weren't 2006-2009 but 2003-2007, 2009 is when a backlash really grew against weeaboos with the aforementioned Sakura Con ad being one of the reasons why.

There's also the fact that anime itself just isn't in as exciting a place as it once was, modern anime isn't bad but there is less risk taking than there used to be, compare something like My Hero Academia to the 2003 Fullmetal Alchemist anime and MHA definitely seems bland and not as bold as FMA was with it's political content.

It's just a bit bland at the moment, nobody's really trying to push things as far as they tried to push it in the past, it's a lot more "settled in" if you know what I mean and less experimental, you're not really seeing real out there stuff like Paranoia Agent or Serial Experiments Lain anymore.

Weeb culture of the 1990s and 2000s is one of my big obsessions in life.
I've seen worse. I wasn't even a weeb when Toonami aired anime. Most times I was too scared to look up anime outside of Pokemon and DBZ cause I thought they were like horror movies or porn flicks. (Which most anime are) And other times they feel like pedo bait made by the FBI to catch a predator. Like old anime back in the day when the 90s and 2000s were bombing with anime was basically high schooler anime crap or horror shows that just scare you out of nowhere. I remember when anime dubbing companies made YouTube channels. Their sub counts suck so many balls compare to channels that don't relate to anime like Pewdiepie or comedy videos. Like for real. Do people feel like the animes that were made at the time were testing grounds to catch child predators or is it just me? Someone once told me that most anime made in Japan were commissioned by the FBI and CIA to test if child predators would harm kids or prevent them from harming them. Feel like anime itself is a honey pot and that is why the Weeaboos that used to exist in the late 90s to the 2000s either killed themselves, end up in prison, or just quit anime cause it is too much for their brains.
 
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I'm a Japanophile who dislikes anime and manga, and couldn't quite figure out why. But yeah I'd say this hits the nail on the head. Too much outside influence in it.

As for furfags, even they got boring af and borderline on the way to normieism. I've been watching the fagdom for over 15 years, it's a shell of its former self.
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One is a Japanese cartoon.
The other is anime.

Tokugawa didn’t die for this.
 
That we did. That we did.....

As for there not being spergy retardation about new shows, I dunno man. A lot of the only slapfights about My Hero Academia and Attack on Titan remind me of the online slapfights that would go down about Naruto, Bleach, or even all the way back to Ranma 1/2. It's all just Twitter and Tumblr posting now, though, which really seems to suck the energy out of the whole fandom.
Probably because I'm not in High School anymore or just not paying attention, I just don't see people doing the AoT salute in public or wearing the jacket.
 
Back in the day you had to wait a year or years for a high quality official release or settle for a low quality VHS or online fansub, now there's less of a need for physical anime clubs where you have the one guy that either had the connections for the fansubs or is willing to drop the bucks on expensive DVD sets so the whole club can watch.

More or less what happened is a lot of the mystery surrounding anime, manga and Japan itself that made it intriguing to westerners went away, even in the earlier days of the internet there was still an element of mystery, but the advancement of technology has brought along a lot more knowledge more easily accessible than ever before and sadly some of the mystery goes away, which is what made it interesting in the first place, that sense of discovery where you found an entirely new medium and culture that you knew little to nothing about before.

I think people forget how edgy and ground breaking anime was back in the day.

The only other adult animation kind of like anime I had seen prior to more adult anime was the movie Heavy Metal, first cartoon nudity I ever saw lol, but you always knew Heavy Metal was a bit of an outlier when it comes to western animation, the realization that there was a lot more "adult" anime than there was "adult" western animation was mind blowing, I remember how shocked I was to see something like Gunsmith Cats where you see the girls in their undies, this was after I saw Heavy Metal, but since most of the anime I had seen up to that point had been stuff like Pokemon and DBZ it was still a bit of a shock to see anime with blatant sexual content.

Heavy Metal always had that very late 70s/early 80s "bongwater" smell that you knew was very much of it's time, but seeing anime more recently carry on the idea of adult animation that wasn't a comedy like South Park was mind blowing.
I kind of agree and disagree. As someone from Rurouni Kenshin said, "It is not the tools the make the age, but the people who wield them." Anime was practically everywhere post 1995 if you looked hard enough, and again, it wasn't merely the anime. There wasn't just anime on UPN and basic local providers on the antenna and even to Toonami on CN, but video games, like from the Super Nintendo, Sega CD and Playstation. Yeah, everything was a bit niche because anime was just getting into the mainstream outside of sci fi conventions, but along with how the US was going big on alternative media, sticking it to the Morality in Media fuckers and Congress and The Man and the PTA, The Simpsons and MTV even spearheading animation that wasn't stricted for the kiddies, and with the Comics Crash of 1996 and the US comics industry literally sucking a fat one because they couldn't write morally "gray" or more realistic/human dimensional characters and stories, you couldn't have more of a perfect cultural and social climate for anime to proliferate into the mainstream.

Sure, it is not as prolific as it was today, but man, anime was practically around on a national level by 2000 in the US. Again, the main problem is what people do with it. Either I've long lived in a hole or something's up with the world, because I can feel the mystery and magic still is there, it's just that it's all now latent like metals and minerals stored up after being sediment and cycled back into the earth. Again, I've long lived with anime since I could remember how to walk; anime was something special for me when I was growing up, but I wouldn't say it was something alien. It had mystery, but it didn't feel out of reach, like to chase the moon or was another planet. I feel the biggest problem why this mystery appears to be gone is merely because of the inescapable aspect of the changing world, as well as to how the situation is because, no offense, the lot of fans failing to go beyond boundaries and borders to a basic human level, and that the worst of the fans are now in the reigns, and they are spoiled, myopic, and stupid, and don't even appreciate what they've been given. It's practically 10-20 years since the anime boom, and I still have that inspiration with me. I think there's something wrong with them if they up and give up and let the world fuck them up the ass and walk all over them to lose that hope, let alone do anything with it.

There are still a lot of fans who enjoy looking up and finding out older stuff. I don't blame technology, I blame the fact that the fans that could do something just didn't years before. Anime and manga, it is not an easy path, but in this world of pampered instant media access fast food spontaneity, and even for manga known for being a day in and day out medium where artists toil every week to come up with 30 some pages for magazines and Tokyo being the NYC of Japan where everyone is on a path to blaze, no one wants to do the hard work and personal development to be a mangaka or an anime artist by their own power, and that doesn't just have to do with going out to Japan. We live in one of the greatest countries in the world, where there are How To Draw Manga publications straight from Japan translated out to us, practically the Prime Codex of anime at our fingertips, professional grade digital tools and programs on an affordable cost with our currency, where anime was practically on national fucking television and in bookstores and video game stores and movie theaters, and still, no one has done anything with that. Sorry for rambling on like that, but inspiration is a big fucking deal, and it has now said a lot that even since when Malibu Comics back in the 1980s were trying to make their own manga based comics, that something is fucking wrong at an intrinsic level.

Life still goes on. The clocks still move, the plants still grow, the clouds still float about the skies, the seas and oceans still ebb and flow. Yet in the human world, anime is still thought that it can't be produced outside of Japan. What the fuck is this shit? The mystery should still be going on, yet no one wants to keep it going, except a very determined few. I hope something comes of that, but yeah, I can see where you're coming from, but the journey doesn't end here, and it shouldn't, and especially to a bunch of fuckfaces who run a pathetic excuse for an anime news website and their lackeys.

I've seen worse. I wasn't even a weeb when Toonami aired anime. Most times I was too scared to look up anime outside of Pokemon and DBZ cause I thought they were like horror movies or porn flicks. (Which most anime are) And other times they feel like pedo bait made by the FBI to catch a predator. Like old anime back in the day when the 90s and 2000s were bombing with anime was basically high schooler anime crap or horror shows that just scare you out of nowhere. I remember when anime dubbing companies made YouTube channels. Their sub counts suck so many balls compare to channels that don't relate to anime like Pewdiepie or comedy videos. Like for real. Do people feel like the animes that were made at the time were testing grounds to catch child predators or is it just me? Someone once told me that most anime made in Japan were commissioned by the FBI and CIA to test if child predators would harm kids or prevent them from harming them. Feel like anime itself is a honey pot and that is why the Weeaboos that used to exist in the late 90s to the 2000s either killed themselves, end up in prison, or just quit anime cause it is too much for their brains.
ngl man, you got fed some shit man.
 
Life still goes on. The clocks still move, the plants still grow, the clouds still float about the skies, the seas and oceans still ebb and flow. Yet in the human world, anime is still thought that it can't be produced outside of Japan. What the fuck is this shit? The mystery should still be going on, yet no one wants to keep it going, except a very determined few. I hope something comes of that, but yeah, I can see where you're coming from, but the journey doesn't end here, and it shouldn't, and especially to a bunch of fuckfaces who run a pathetic excuse for an anime news website and their lackeys.
People feel intimidated by something it seems. Maybe they're just worried that people won't see it as REAL anime and doubt themselves because of that and just back off from even trying.
 
People feel intimidated by something it seems. Maybe they're just worried that people won't see it as REAL anime and doubt themselves because of that and just back off from even trying.
I can see that, but it's like sushi or other cultural exports/interests. There's a sushi restaurant that's top of the line around me; the main chef's a white guy, but I can care less because they make their own pickles, cut their own fish, and don't serve escolar and tilapia. I'm not crazy about the highly decorated and embellished rolls with mayo and sriracha and has cream cheese with spicy tuna and tempura, but hell, I'll bite at a party or at a get together or if I want something crazy for a crazy day. Does that make that less than actual sushi because those rolls are on the menu and the chef isn't 2000% Japanese in genetics? Maybe to some butt tight purist, but I'd be happy to toss my money at him to keep his craft alive and his bills paid because his stuff is good.

I've said this a lot before, but the anime boom was supposed to be like how jazz proliferated out in France during the 1930s, how UK rock spread out into NYC for them to influence Led Zepplin and Aerosmith and Johnny Rotten, and to even how Tezuka was inspired by Disney to establish anime and manga in the first place, or like how the States picked and chose and adopted what it liked about Japanese culture and wanted to do something with it. I will admit; a lot of Original English Language manga artists who made it back in the 2000s regret their craft, and that's absolutely pathetic. But they shouldn't. It's not like US made anime will overshadow Japan, and if it does, well, maybe that should shake things up a bit.

Making anime stuff is a whole lot more different in some aspects, but it's not impossible.
 
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