Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

Orange Islands needs more love, and the Johto seasons were the funniest Pokémon's ever been (as well as having one of my favorite Ash moments in admitting to Charizard he's not experienced enough to raise him, it's controversial but Ash made the right call imo), but they were so damn slow getting to each gym, and unfortunately at the Johto League, Ash relied more on his original teammates instead of his Johto team. Advanced Generation at least went out of its way to improve upon what it learned from Johto, but it still sadly underutilized Team Magma and Aqua, and the Groudon and Kyogre battle was overhyped and didn't live up to it. Max, although not a bad idea to have a sibling dynamic in the team, honestly bogged the whole series down despite their best efforts to try and give him a character. I don't even know if Bonnie is better or worse, still struggling to get through D&P, of which I think Brock coming back wasn't really a good move since even in Hoenn it felt like he overstayed his welcome. Battle Frontier I think wasn't a bad season, but the dub-change midway through hurt its reputation.

Indigo League is still a fun watch, but there's a reason the "pity badges" are always noted as a negative, because half of them were interrupted matches of which he was either winning, or he was losing, but he did something heroic to impress the gym leader to give him the badge anyway (and he would actually protest this). Sabrina's gym is an egregious one, too, though he didn't speak out about that one. This is why after the Orange Islands, you actually got to watch his gym matches from beginning to end and sometimes, he actually lost and had to have a rematch where he actually showed he could learn from his mistakes and come up with strategies to overcome them. So the battles have improved since the first season, and that's a good thing.

I will admit the redesigns for Joy and Jenny in later series ruined their waifu statuses, though. Honestly am not a fan of their looks past fourth gen. (Edit: Actually, X&Y Jenny looks good.)
Hoenn is my favorite simply because of some of the absolutely ridiculous filler episodes. Remember when Ash and James wore eggplant costumes or Ash discovered a time machine?
 
Hoenn is my favorite simply because of some of the absolutely ridiculous filler episodes. Remember when Ash and James wore eggplant costumes or Ash discovered a time machine?
Sinnoh is my favorite simply because of the darker more serious tone while still being Pokemon.
The Sinnoh arcs were noticeably far shorter run than the Hoenn arcs and those that came after in GEN 5 and 6 of the anime and the Battle frontier in Platinum was a pale, rushed imitation of Hoenn's which felt like 2 seasons of anime despite having hidden bosses every 25 streak or so.
 
They also added pretty much every legendary Pokemon back, but they don't belong to any of the Pokedex's proper. There's 667 Pokemon total in SwSh, as the dexes have some overlapping pokemon they look bigger than they really are, meaning we're missing 231 Pokemon not including regional variants, alternate forms etc.

Maybe they will add the rest once the D/P Remakes are released.
 
Sinnoh is my favorite simply because of the darker more serious tone while still being Pokemon.
The Sinnoh arcs were noticeably far shorter run than the Hoenn arcs and those that came after in GEN 5 and 6 of the anime and the Battle frontier in Platinum was a pale, rushed imitation of Hoenn's which felt like 2 seasons of anime despite having hidden bosses every 25 streak or so.
Objectively DP is the best arc of the anime. It also has that filler with the evil Togepi that rivals the Hoenn ones I mentioned. Also Paul is the best rival Ash had besides maybe Gary.
 
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Objectively DP is the best arc of the anime. It also has that filler with the evil Togepi that rivals the Hoenn ones I mentioned. Also Paul is the best rival Ash had besides maybe Gary.
Paul was a good rival to the point where I just stopped watching. He killed most of the lightheartedness of the scenes most of the time with the
"2edgy5me u wouldnt understand" edgelord attitude even if they had just went through some tough trials and tribulations moments before and were laughing about it.

Don't really give a shit about the anime overall as the Games are where its at, was just noticing what I remember as he isnt a terrible character.
Especially compared to the pure hypocrite cringe these days in most recent anime.


Not looking forward to that arceus spinoff,

He was supposed to be the pokemon version of "god" that defies understanding and logic that they threw in a clause with "Oh btw if you catch him or any of the sinnoh legendaries, thats not the real them, lolz its just a copy of a copy!" to the DP and Platinum pokedex entries.


Which was technically explained at the sinjoh ruins where the player's Arceus does just that.

 
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Paul was a good rival to the point where I just stopped watching. He killed most of the lightheartedness of the scenes most of the time with the
"2edgy5me u wouldnt understand" edgelord attitude even if they had just went through some tough trials and tribulations moments before and were laughing about it.

Don't really give a shit about the anime overall as the Games are where its at, was just noticing what I remember as he isnt a terrible character.
Especially compared to the pure hypocrite cringe these days.


Not looking forward to that arceus spinoff,

He was supposed to be the pokemon version of "god" that defies understanding and logic that they threw in a clause with "Oh btw if you catch him or any of the sinnoh legendaries, thats not the real them, lolz its just a copy of a copy!" to the DP and Platinum pokedex entries.


Which was technically explained at the sinjoh ruins where the player's Arceus does just that.

The anime has become fairly derailed at this point if you were wondering. Almost every episode feels like filler because they now hop from region to region as a result of Sword and Shield having nearly no plot. They wrapped up the entire main plot of Sword and Shield in four episodes. Ash’s new friend completely breaks the rules of the show, it’s far too weird to see a character who catches his mons in the Pokémon Go style and hoards them like someone playing the games.
 
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The anime has become fairly derailed at this point if you were wondering. Almost every episode feels like filler because they now hop from region to region as a result of Sword and Shield having nearly no plot. They wrapped up the entire main plot of Sword and Shield in four episodes. Ash’s new friend completely breaks the rules of the show, it’s far too weird to see a character who catches his mons in the Pokémon Go style and hoards them like someone playing the games.

Truly shows how much Iwata-san was the glue that held Nintendo together as he worked on the early series and game titles up through at least Gen 3 with at least a noticeably different story each time.

Also would explain why they show through their actions that they hate Gen 4 so much. It wasn't a pain to make, they are just jealous that it actually had not only a story, but a good one for what it was and stuck with it and committed until it ran its course.

Meanwhile they're too busy conspiring to fire Osaka-chan in the office all day like most of the modern gaming industry to actually do their fucking jobs.
 
Truly shows how much Iwata-san was the glue that held Nintendo together as he worked on the early series and game titles up through at least Gen 3 with at least a noticeably different story each time.

Also would explain why they show through their actions that they hate Gen 4 so much. It wasn't a pain to make, they are just jealous that it actually had not only a story, but a good one for what it was and stuck with it and committed until it ran its course.
Sword and Shield regularly has people hosting hacked raids and you only get banned if they’re really obvious (an event Pokémon, the raid is hacked to give you a DLC item, etc.).
 
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As much as I cant forgive their sin of autistic Japanese handholding over basic shit like wiping your ass and opening your menu screen, roadblocking you every 2 steps with a fucking novels worth of worthless exposition you skip through (Sun and moon) and not telling you actually useful into like about whatever the fuck STAB damage is in tutorials, At least they kept moving forward to 3D and a more Pokémon anime look and feel.

Still waiting on that Orange Islands DLC since they're so hellbent on Kanto.


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I know the Orange Islands are in Firered/Leafgreen with the half assed GS ball quest there but they are in no other Gen 1 remakes.

GF also wants twice the price of the original for the remake.
That's scummy as hell, especially for a retarded name like "brilliant diamond" and no one has tried that yet besides GF.
Likely wont even have an extended endgame like ORAS, HG/SS, and FR/LG did.


No, the remakes need to be named Temporal Diamond and Spatial Pearl. Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire got it right and cost the same as the originals if you had bought them back in the day without the 100% chibi shit and stuck with Gen 6's art style.
This remake does none of that.

Will enjoy watching from the sidelines to see what happens.
 
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I know the Orange Islands are in Firered/Leafgreen with the half assed GS ball quest there but they are in no other Gen 1 remakes.
You're mistaking them for the Sevii Islands lol. Bringing in the Orange Islands proper I think would be amazing, but it was obvious the season was made as filler even though it wasn't a bad filler in the long-run. Weirdly enough, I think the trial challenges of Alola might've been somewhat based off of the Orange Islands, but unfortunately, there was a missed opportunity of a Surfing race at some point. That would've been cool.
 
You're mistaking them for the Sevii Islands lol. Bringing in the Orange Islands proper I think would be amazing, but it was obvious the season was made as filler even though it wasn't a bad filler in the long-run. Weirdly enough, I think the trial challenges of Alola might've been somewhat based off of the Orange Islands, but unfortunately, there was a missed opportunity of a Surfing race at some point. That would've been cool.

Alola's challenges were more based off Hawaii and Hawaiian culture.

The Orange Islands and most of the island arcs of that era, were more like Okinawa and the other various islands and territories near Japanese Waters. Since Kanto is the name of an actual Prefecture in Japan.

We did eventually get straight surfing time races in Gen 7 but they were pretty dogshit, time consuming as in 5-10+ minute long sequences and it was just far easier to use fly to get from place to place. I missed having to have a party pokemon know an HM to get around.
The pocket machamp and taurus made no sense.

At least Omega latios and latias made sense having a homing beacon for them to pick you up with. Like bitch, you're telling me I can ONLY use 6 pokemon at once, but I have at least 10 of these mothafuckas in my bag just waiting to do various HM shit, one per move with accompanying tard tier safety equipment that ORAS didn't have.
 
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We did eventually get straight surfing time races in Gen 7 but they were pretty dogshit, time consuming as in 5-10+ minute long sequences and it was just far easier to use fly to get from place to place.
Oh I had forgotten about that, I was so disappointed with it and just moved on. But yeah, Gen VI replacing HM moves with various Pokémon was... it was thoughtful of Game Freak to do that so we wouldn't have to cart around an HM slave anymore, but it definitely got ridiculous.
 
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Was nice to not have an HM slave, but then again, fly and surf were pretty good combat moves if you had a water type starter and a dedicated airplane in your party among others to balance out the various type weaknesses and Strength was only ever used in the elite four and the occasional cave. Cut always sees more use than at least 3/8 HMs, mostly involving rocks , in any pokemon game.

Also Defog was a pretty wierd HM in only Gen 4. Then never heard of again.

Only was useable once or twice and could be used at the place you catch Giratina in the endgame of D/P or if you missed or KO'd him in platinum. But it wouldn't last like rock smash sometimes does and You'd always have to use Defog again to get that cloudy sky lighting nowhere else in the game.

It also couldn't be used in places where there was snowfall or even that Darkrai event island where fog exists since you would think it could be useful as a "clear up my screen so I can see where I'm going" HM as they do pull that same shit in the anime a few times but with some variant of the move Gust. most of the time using it in well lit caves with actual fog would have Rowan Nam Flashback the Player character and tell them they couldn't use it.


Was also usable in a underground cave along the mount coronet range somewhere but dont remember if it had any significance to it.

Think the ultimate goal of the original team was to make a pokemon game that was like the anime in graphics and gameplay but had a consistent battle system. Pokken was an experiment during the wii u era that no one bought despite the insane levels of advertising geared towards it.
 
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I would say tha the Orange Islands would never be part of the proper games, but we got Pokémon Yellow and Ash Greninja.
Even then, I feel that putting the Orange Islands would be a stretch.
Quick reminder that Lugia was made by just one guy for a movie.

Same dude made the 1st pkmn film during a time were everyone else were too occupied to notice the dark shit he wrote. (Mewtwo killing scientists, clones & ash getting stoned)
 
Quick reminder that Lugia was made by just one guy for a movie.

Same dude made the 1st pkmn film during a time were everyone else were too occupied to notice the dark shit he wrote. (Mewtwo killing scientists, clones & ash getting stoned)
Oh God, Takeshi Shudo. He was truly crazy, and if he hadn’t died he’d probably have a lolcow thread.
 
Also Defog was a pretty wierd HM in only Gen 4. Then never heard of again.

Only was useable once or twice and could be used at the place you catch Giratina in the endgame of D/P or if you missed or KO'd him in platinum. But it wouldn't last like rock smash sometimes does and You'd always have to use Defog again to get that cloudy sky lighting nowhere else in the game.
Funnily enough, Defog is a regularly used move in competitive to get rid of field hazards like (Toxic) Spikes and Stealth Rock. Serves as a good alternative to Rapid Spin since it's available to more Pokémon.
 
Funnily enough, Defog is a regularly used move in competitive to get rid of field hazards like (Toxic) Spikes and Stealth Rock. Serves as a good alternative to Rapid Spin since it's available to more Pokémon.
Was never into competitive Pokémon as the PVE was just that good to explore for cool new places in Gen 4.

Also just learned that it actually did that. Despite being less useful than a fart in Gen 4 PVE, as trainers and wild pokemon either never use those moves or the lightscreen is so ineffective at mitigating damage that its useless against whatever Im using. It did improve drastically in future titles apparently.
 
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