Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

[Marshal Mannerheim]

Not to derail the thread into Bongland politics but I largely agree apart from the point about students.

Regardless of the euroskeptic views he had (which probably endeared him to the white working class), students and the woke middle class fucking loved the guy to Living Colour-esque proportions, I remember talking with Labour supporting friends at the time and bringing up the Euroskepticism and they would always just shove it under the rug. The problem is that despite how insufferably loud that group is it doesn't represent enough of the population for him to score any meaningful vote while alienating the other groups. The 2019 snap election honestly made me believe in the silent majority again.

Maybe not students (although I'm sure I remember more students than usual talking about voting for the ”Liberal” ”Democrats”) but I live in a very middle-class, white area and many people were fed up with Corbyn and voted Lib Dem or Change UK (remember them?).

 

[TheBeanz]

very middle-class, white area

The true marker of this is 'Vote Lib Dem' at the entrance to driveways, right next to the family CR-V

 

[King Dead]

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I'm not sure what they are talking about. Just a reminder that Cancel Culture totally does not exist, and "holding bad people responsible" is an appropriate tactics for appropriate targets.

While Donald Glover could easily just be referring to the concept a show getting canceled and not the broader cancel culture, it could just as easily be both. We've had plenty of cases over the past few years (and it feels like more and more as time goes on) where a show gets canceled because it got canceled; that is to say, the network in question pulls the plug because an outrage mob got their digital pitchforks and rioted on Twitter. This also applies retroactively, where the ultraprogressive moral code finds issue with works of the past and causes studios to bend the knee and either pull them from streaming services or add "content warnings" beforehand urging people not to watch if their feefees are gonna get hurt.

Thus, if you want to stay on the air, for any definition of "on the air," you're quickly finding yourself having to play by the woke rules. They might not be explicitly codified anywhere, unlike the old Production Code, but it's not hard to figure them out. Protagonists must be Diverse™ in some way; ideally, they should be as far from the straight white male as possible, a stunning and brave gay peeohsee womxn if you can. Even if you do have a white guy as your lead, they should be shown to be incompetent without the stunning and brave squad backing him up. Antagonists, in contrast, must always be the straight white male and must be completely irredeemable. Anything to do with woke causes must always be portrayed as beautiful and wonderful, while conservative and Christian values are always the punchline. And so on and so on.

The result is that you just get a bunch of samey, boring bullshit without much room to experiment, lest you run afoul of the Twitter mobs. And it's not just what you do in the works themselves, it's your entire conduct outside of your production. Make an offhand comment critical of woke, and watch the mob descend on you and make you unemployable.

That's what I got out of Glover's comments. I hope he doesn't, but I won't gonna be surprised if he walks it back later, however, or "clarifies" that he was only talking about cancellation from a studio perspective. Speaking out against cancel culture is a good way to torpedo your own career, and I'm sure he knows that.

 

[Boston Brand]

There's actually a reason the MCU made Spiderman essentially Iron Man Jr: To make sure Sony can't just split after they "fix" Spiderman without rebooting Spiderman for the 4th time in 20 years. It's a franchise poison pill if Sony ever tries to pull out.

Hell, even at thier worst, the MCU Spiderman movies are still better than either Amazing Spiderman movie.

 

[Imposteroak]

Chris on Venom:

I did see venom and it could have stood to take itself a lot more seriously, or maybe just gone full deadpool rip off. Idk I shut my brain off not too far into it, but the whedon bants created a lot of tonal whiplash for me. It's actually a drag that writers pander to tards like Chris so often who need a cheeky wink to the camera to get through a movie about anything serious.

 

[Woe-B-Gon (TM)]

Bobby didn't respond to Mickey Rourke; instead he presses his fat lips around this:

I guess Bob is trying to steal the chair's job supporting Patton Oswalt's fat ass.

I am getting so sick of Chris begging all the time for money. Ffs Chris, you have a job as an engineer! It is so shameless.

"We have noooooo integrity / We're ready to crawl / To obtaiiiiiin celebrity / We'll do anything at all"

Sadly that's the only line of "Shameless" that matches because at least the character who sings it is an ambitious fame whore.

 

[BubbleButt]

I guess Bob is trying to steal the chair's job supporting Patton Oswalt's fat ass.

Well, Patton's dead wife (that he murdered) certainly can't support him anymore.

 

[An Sionnach Seang]

A good person is a woke one (Ash Sarker's article)
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More video-game based lesbo movies don't make a better world, Bobby.

hahahahaha, christ on a bike
"smart" and "active" are two of many words that do not describe British graduates in the slightest
most of them are such stunted children that they need months of training just to be able to hold down an actual job

Today in 'Bob doesn't know shit about', it's UK politics!

and Britbongland in general - this is possibly his high-water mark of thundering ignorance on the subject

Bob and his ilk aren't atheists; they are anti-theists*. Even the possible existence of God is an affront to their cherished world-view.

or, to use the technical term: insufferable smug wankers

 

[Lensherr]

A bit of Spider-man Off-topic Sperging on my part because there are a few things I'd like to mention.

Spoiler: Spidey

The idea of Spider-man in the MCU could've worked had they kept their reliance on the Avengers to a bare minimum. Had they just kept his admiration to Tony as a casual fan. Because they could've made the battle of new york a point where his main core could've played a role. The pieces for a good Spider-man are there. But the problem lies in how Watts, and his writing staff are treating him as someone that NEEDS to be under someone's shadow to work. That he cannot have his own feel, tone, and a world surrounding him without a direct, or indirect mention of an Avenger. And because it made money. They are going in that direction while missing the whole point of the character once again while Watts going out of his way to troll the fans with stuff like his thoughts on MJ

Other Spider-man films have gotten some elements of the character right. But this take? No, he is not Spider-man. This is what someone that doesn't understand the concept THINKS is Spider-man. Right now, the only way to get a good adaptation of him are in animated films and the Insomniac verse which ended up being the alternatives over the MCU for long-time fans. The MCU take appeals sadly to the normies. TO the people that don't know jackshit about the character. And until it underperforms. They are most likely not going to change direction unless he is removed from the MCU, or John Watts, and his writing staff fucks off as the creative team of his films

Spoiler: More Spider-Man Sperging

I agree with both you and @Bolo on this subject.

The core of Spider-Man’s appeal as a character is that he’s just a regular dude who has to deal with the same problems average people face (which is also the reason that I love Daredevil). There’s also the fact that unlike most of the other Marvel characters, he actually grows up and matures past his original age (i.e., he starts out as a high school student, then a college student, and eventually graduates and moves on to his post-education life).

The problem with MCU Spider-Man for me is twofold: there’s the Tony Stark simping that you guys mentioned and the fact that he’s back to being a high school kid (the latter is more of a personal pet peeve though).

One of my favorite runs on the character was the one by J. Michael Straczynski (well, excluding Sins Past and One More Day). I loved how he made Peter Parker a teacher, because it felt like a much needed and natural evolution and maturation of his character. I really wish that the MCU went more along this route where Peter’s already an established hero who’s been in the game for a while. It would have been a nice, refreshing change of pace from what we’ve seen before, and I really like that that’s the route the Insomniac game went.

MCU Spider-Man though really misses the point of the character, and I have no idea why MCU fans so adamantly defend this interpretation when they always tout the franchise as being more “comic-accurate” than other capeshit adaptations (I’d argue that it does take a lot more liberties than a lot of people realize, but that’s a discussion for another day).

 

[MirrorNoir]

While Donald Glover could easily just be referring to the concept a show getting canceled and not the broader cancel culture, it could just as easily be both. We've had plenty of cases over the past few years (and it feels like more and more as time goes on) where a show gets canceled because it got canceled; that is to say, the network in question pulls the plug because an outrage mob got their digital pitchforks and rioted on Twitter. This also applies retroactively, where the ultraprogressive moral code finds issue with works of the past and causes studios to bend the knee and either pull them from streaming services or add "content warnings" beforehand urging people not to watch if their feefees are gonna get hurt.

Thus, if you want to stay on the air, for any definition of "on the air," you're quickly finding yourself having to play by the woke rules. They might not be explicitly codified anywhere, unlike the old Production Code, but it's not hard to figure them out. Protagonists must be Diverse™ in some way; ideally, they should be as far from the straight white male as possible, a stunning and brave gay peeohsee womxn if you can. Even if you do have a white guy as your lead, they should be shown to be incompetent without the stunning and brave squad backing him up. Antagonists, in contrast, must always be the straight white male and must be completely irredeemable. Anything to do with woke causes must always be portrayed as beautiful and wonderful, while conservative and Christian values are always the punchline. And so on and so on.

The result is that you just get a bunch of samey, boring bullshit without much room to experiment, lest you run afoul of the Twitter mobs. And it's not just what you do in the works themselves, it's your entire conduct outside of your production. Make an offhand comment critical of woke, and watch the mob descend on you and make you unemployable.

That's what I got out of Glover's comments. I hope he doesn't, but I won't gonna be surprised if he walks it back later, however, or "clarifies" that he was only talking about cancellation from a studio perspective. Speaking out against cancel culture is a good way to torpedo your own career, and I'm sure he knows that.

Speaking of that, ABC has gone so fucking woke that they are proactively bragging about refusing to buy TV show pitches because "they were too fucking white" and CBS inflicting diversity quotas on reality tv game shows like Survivor and Big Brother where the cast has to be 50% black/Hispanic and that's BEFORE gender quotas. And that's not counting HBO going super god-damn woke and letting the anti-white racists have free reign to produce Hitler-style racist propaganda like Watchmen and Exterminate All the Brutes and garbage David Simons "Won't Someone Just Assassinate Trump Already" porn The Plot Against America.

Well, Patton's dead wife (that he murdered) certainly can't support him anymore.

Technically Patton doesn't need to work. His years of whoring himself out on lowest common denominator TV show King of Queens essentially made Patton a millionaire, to the point that he doesn't need to work at all anymore and can do stuff like MST3K for free along with other non-commercial stuff and indie films/projects. His involvement with Marvel/Disney is a good example of this, as they hire him because he'll work cheap and will shill the project to the proper channels and white knight them when needed.

 

[Totally Awesome]

Spoiler: More Spider-Man Sperging

I agree with both you and @Bolo on this subject.

The core of Spider-Man’s appeal as a character is that he’s just a regular dude who has to deal with the same problems average people face (which is also the reason that I love Daredevil). There’s also the fact that unlike most of the other Marvel characters, he actually grows up and matures past his original age (i.e., he starts out as a high school student, then a college student, and eventually graduates and moves on to his post-education life).

The problem with MCU Spider-Man for me is twofold: there’s the Tony Stark simping that you guys mentioned and the fact that he’s back to being a high school kid (the latter is more of a personal pet peeve though).

One of my favorite runs on the character was the one by J. Michael Straczynski (well, excluding Sins Past and One More Day). I loved how he made Peter Parker a teacher, because it felt like a much needed and natural evolution and maturation of his character. I really wish that the MCU went more along this route where Peter’s already an established hero who’s been in the game for a while. It would have been a nice, refreshing change of pace from what we’ve seen before, and I really like that that’s the route the Insomniac game went.

MCU Spider-Man though really misses the point of the character, and I have no idea why MCU fans so adamantly defend this interpretation when they always tout the franchise as being more “comic-accurate” than other capeshit adaptations (I’d argue that it does take a lot more liberties than a lot of people realize, but that’s a discussion for another day).

That's also my feelings about the new Spider-Man. They always treated Spider-Man like Iron Man's son way too much, instead of making Spider-Man his own character. Thankfully at the end of Far From Home, they made Spider-Man more grown up, where he could actually take care of himself and get out of trouble. I'm hoping that they keep his character more independent and adult in the third movie.

 

[Fictional Character]

https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Moviebob"

I had not seen that wiki before so now I share it with you.

Associates​

Lindsay Ellis

Even wikitubia agrees with Bob.

 

[BubbleButt]

Technically Patton doesn't need to work. His years of whoring himself out on lowest common denominator TV show King of Queens essentially made Patton a millionaire, to the point that he doesn't need to work at all anymore and can do stuff like MST3K for free along with other non-commercial stuff and indie films/projects. His involvement with Marvel/Disney is a good example of this, as they hire him because he'll work cheap and will shill the project to the proper channels and white knight them when needed.

Calm down, bro, I just wanted to make the joke (READ: statement of fact) that Patton Oswalt killed his first wife.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

Holy shit.

 

[A Watchful Ghost]

There's actually a reason the MCU made Spiderman essentially Iron Man Jr: To make sure Sony can't just split after they "fix" Spiderman without rebooting Spiderman for the 4th time in 20 years. It's a franchise poison pill if Sony ever tries to pull out.

Hell, even at thier worst, the MCU Spiderman movies are still better than either Amazing Spiderman movie.

So basically they told long-time fans to go fuck themselves because Money. Classy, just classy.

That's also my feelings about the new Spider-Man. They always treated Spider-Man like Iron Man's son way too much, instead of making Spider-Man his own character. Thankfully at the end of Far From Home, they made Spider-Man more grown up, where he could actually take care of himself and get out of trouble. I'm hoping that they keep his character more independent and adult in the third movie.

I doubt it. They are going back to the same pattern. But instead of Tony's shadow. He has to be under TWO OLDER SPIDER-MEN'S shadow. If they repeat the same plot from the last films then there's no hope for this take of the character. But considering Watts is already taking the piss on the fans by bringing back Raimi's Ock from the death. Then I got very good reasons to be skeptical.

Holy shit.

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Well, This outta be interesting!

 

[instythot]

Holy shit.

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Well. What are we setting the odds on Bob turning into the Kim Jong-Il fan club because it's in direct opposition to the Malice opinion at?

 

[Laughingjoke2]

No, he was still hurting as of 3 hours ago.
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Be a Man Chris and do the world a favor in the process and get a life insurance policy and have an "Accident".

 

[Horpach]

Holy shit.

Can't think of a man who's more of an opposite to Bob in pretty much everything than Malice. Hope our boy keeps going with this one

Already bitching out on the replies:


Didn't catch the original tweet, here's the locked one


Edit: LMFAO

 

[blablabla]

chipman is such a bitch lmao

 

[John Andrews Stan]

Bob’s gonna get flashbacks from the console wars, AKA his Vietnam.