Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

Serious question: what does it feel to be a faggot?
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I haven't seen a single thing posted in this thread that would make me actually want to get the vaccine. The Sideways Pussy Pox is now endemic, so it's not like a vaccine would even work long-term anyway.

Nothing posted in this thread makes me want to get the jab, that is true.

Probably going to get it though. The idea of booster shots is a problem because I'm a coward.
 

Connecticut govt. secretly tells health care workers covid vaccines are DEADLY, but withholds the same information from the public – Investment Watch​

t’s all admitted right in the open, in these Connecticut government documents shown below, which admit these vaccines can be fatal. The original documents used in this research may be found at the following links: (all PDF docs)

Pre-vaccination screening form – V20 – Connecticut government website

Covid-19 vaccine ingredients list and spike protein propaganda – Connecticut government website

Since Connecticut may remove these documents in order to hide the truth, we are also mirroring these documents at NaturalNews.com servers:

Pre-vaccination screening form – V20 – Natural News mirror
Covid-19 vaccine ingredients list and spike protein propaganda – Natural News mirror

Connecticut admits covid vaccines contain spike proteins, then claims they are harmless even while the Salk Institute confirms they can be deadly​

In these documents, you will find astonishing admissions from the Connecticut government. For starters, review the graphic below which shows the Connecticut government falsely claiming the vaccine spike protein is “a harmless protein,” even while the Salk Institute’s own published research reveals, “the protein damages cells.”

The research, published in the journal Circulation Research, concludes, “…we show that spike protein alone can damage vascular endothelial cells by downregulating ACE2 and consequently inhibiting mitochondrial function.”

As the Salk Institute further explains, “…this is the first study to show that the damage occurs when cells are exposed to the spike protein on its own.”

Thus, the government of Connecticut is lying to its own citizens and encouraging them to be injected with something that will cause widespread damage and even death:





(See larger image here.)

Covid-19 vaccine ingredients include SM-102, a toxic substance known to be harmful to humans and animals​

This next piece of propaganda from the Connecticut government reveals that the Moderna mRNA vaccine contains an ingredient known as “SM-102,” which is well documented to be toxic to humans and animals.

You can search any search engine to find details about the toxicity of SM-102. Look for the MSDS documents on it. We will publish more details in an upcoming article:

“Vaccine checklist” document secretly warns healthcare professionals the covid vaccine may KILL them, yet withholds this information from the public​

In this third shocking example of what’s coming out of the government of Connecticut in terms of covid-19 vaccine propaganda, the government makes healthcare professionals sign a detailed warning / disclaimer that admits the vaccine may kill them. See the full document below:

I believe the benefits outweigh the risks and I voluntarily assume full responsibility for any reactions that may result from either my receipt of the immunization(s)… Neither the provisioning mass vaccination center nor any of the Released Parties shall, at any time or to any extent whatsoever, be liable, responsible or any way accountable for any loss, injury, death or damage suffered or sustained by any person at any time in connection with or as a result of this vaccine program or the administration of the vaccines described above.

This same document warns healthcare professionals that the risk of anaphylactic reactions is so high, that “medical treatment for severe allergic reactions” must be made available in all mass vaccination centers.

In addition, this document reveals the known adverse reactions from covid-19 vaccines, explaining they include:

  • Feelings of impending doom
  • Loss of consciousness
  • Disorientation, confusion, weakness
  • Diarrhea, nausea, vomiting
  • Flickering lights, tunnel vision.
  • Changes in hearing / loss of hearing
The same chart reveals that for most of these listed adverse reactions, the State of Connecticut recommends continuing with a second dose of the vaccine, even if the first dose caused these bizarre reactions.

Here’s the graphic:
 
I believe the benefits outweigh the risks and I voluntarily assume full responsibility for any reactions that may result from either my receipt of the immunization(s)…
This is exactly how it works. When you take a vaccine anything can happen. Our immune systems are complex and it's not one-size-fits-all.

You ARE risking death by taking the vaccine, but you also are whenever you step into a car or go for a walk outside.

The anti-vax and the covid fanatics are one of the same: they are fully unable to understand cost v benefit.
 
This is exactly how it works. When you take a vaccine anything can happen. Our immune systems are complex and it's not one-size-fits-all.

You ARE risking death by taking the vaccine, but you also are whenever you step into a car or go for a walk outside.

The anti-vax and the covid fanatics are one of the same: they are fully unable to understand cost v benefit.
What benefit?
Please cite ONE.
 
I live in New York and because of the woke Gov't i have no choice in the matter if i ever want to go back to college and the subtle pushing from bosses and ads to get vaccinated. I refuse because i'm easily sucetible to seasonal colds and the flu and every time i got vacinated i got sick for a month. So no for my own safety and fuck the Gov't for telling me what i should do with my body and what shots i need it should be between me and me. Unless i'm in the military its a different story since your rites get striped in that matter without a docs note.
 
I thought about getting the jab this weekend, specifically Moderna because if

When did "trust the science" morph into "bigpharma is numba wun!"? If I see one more basic white bitch singing a song about pfizer ima neck myself
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is anything to go by then it won't do as much harm, or will end up killing me slower than the other ones. I'm not anti-vax or anything either. I'll have to get the jab whether I want it or not due to my job saying it will be mandatory once it becomes FDA approved. Eventually we'll get to where you won't be able to participate in society again unless you get vaccinated every year (like the flu shot). I've been against getting it right now because:

1. It's barely been tested up until this point and we still don't know the longterm side effects of taking it (which there will be). Trump and his administration rushing it into production was a mistake (along with Biden deciding to claim that the rollout was all thanks to him is pants on head retarded and completely embarrassing).

2. If someone were young, healthy (AKA not a fat fuck), and has no preexisting conditions, it has a small chance of doing much harm to you anyways. Don't get me wrong, getting it would completely suck, but you'd still live. The vax is only protecting against a small chance of you getting the virus, and you can still end up getting it anyways from what I've heard. Maybe I'm just a retard idk.
The COVID response worldwide has been terrible on every front.
 
You know, when I made the joke about uber-vaxxers worshiping the Covid vax like Jesus, I didn't realize...
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article excerpt said:
The world's most famous statue of Jesus Christ was lit up in Rio de Janeiro to promote vaccine equality as Brazil and developing countries struggle to protect residents from COVID-19.

The message "Vaccine saves, United for vaccines" was projected on Saturday onto the 98-foot (30-meter) statue by Unidos Pela Vacina (United by the Vaccine), in partnership with the Cristo Redentor Sanctuary and the Ogilvy Brazil advertising agency.
 
If it helps you and others feel better, my body didn't react to it any differently than it did to flu and hepatitis vaccines that I've gotten prior. The first dose led to soreness in the arm it was injected in and some minor fatigue that caused me to sleep three more hours than usual the next night which both passed the next morning. The second dose led to soreness in my arm, neck, shoulders, and waist, and major exhaustion (like I just ran a 5K race yesterday major) that had me bedridden for most of the next day. Try to get it on a day before your day off if you can't afford to call in sick for work just to be safe.
I had zero side effects other than slight chills the morning after. I was fine within a few hours and even hit the gym and hit a PR after work. Even if I had worse side effects, feeling a bit under for a day or two is not a big deal if it means I won't possibly infect others.
 
Alright so since that's a lot of text copy-pasted and very informational, I just want to focus on the spike protein issue in particular as it relates to the vaccines.

🧑‍🔬 THE SCIENCE 🧑‍🔬

Let's get into it. So, according to the published scientific research here https://archive.md/xIaoS the doctors concluded that:
scientific research study into the S protein said:
SARS-CoV-2 (severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2) infection relies on the binding of S protein (Spike glycoprotein) to ACE (angiotensin-converting enzyme) 2 in the host cells. Vascular endothelium can be infected by SARS-CoV-2, which triggers mitochondrial reactive oxygen species production and glycolytic shift.

Paradoxically, ACE2 is protective in the cardiovascular system, and SARS-CoV-1 S protein promotes lung injury by decreasing the level of ACE2 in the infected lungs. SARS-CoV-1 [Spike] protein promotes lung injury by decreasing the level of ACE2 in the infected lungs. In the current study, we show that S protein alone can damage vascular endothelial cells (ECs) by downregulating ACE2 and consequently inhibiting mitochondrial function.
Establishing that, let's switch over to the article from the peculiar "Natural News" website here which states:
Natural News article said:
Critically, all four covid vaccine brands currently in widespread use either inject patients with the spike protein or, via mRNA technology, instruct the patient’s own body to manufacture spike proteins and release them into their own blood. This floods the patient’s body with the very spike protein that the Salk Institute has now identified as the smoking gun cause of vascular damage and related events (such as blood clots, which are killing many people who take the vaccines).
That sounds like a huge problem, so let's check the Salk Institute's article cited above where, quoting the Salk article: "Salk researchers and collaborators show how the protein damages cells, confirming COVID-19 as a primarily vascular disease."
https://archive.md/hgjK4 This article from the Salk Institute simply helps to summarize the previously linked research study which did, in fact, prove that the very nature of the Spike protein itself--without virus--is damaging:
In the new study, the researchers created a “pseudovirus” that was surrounded by SARS-CoV-2 classic crown of spike proteins, but did not contain any actual virus. Exposure to this pseudovirus resulted in damage to the lungs and arteries of an animal model—proving that the spike protein alone was enough to cause disease. Tissue samples showed inflammation in endothelial cells lining the pulmonary artery walls.
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Previous studies have shown a similar effect when cells were exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but this is the first study to show that the damage occurs when cells are exposed to the spike protein on its own.

“If you remove the replicating capabilities of the virus, it still has a major damaging effect on the vascular cells, simply by virtue of its ability to bind to this ACE2 receptor, the S protein receptor, now famous thanks to COVID,” Manor explains. “Further studies with mutant spike proteins will also provide new insight towards the infectivity and severity of mutant SARS CoV-2 viruses.”
This is all over my head but the main point is clear: simply the S protein itself acts as a major culprit behind the health damage we see to the infected. Even without the virus, if there's Spike protein, there's health damage.
Starting to see the "gain of function" research angle even more here but who knows? Does go to show that the lab origin theory is, as has been stated by reputable scientists internationally, still valid.

So the S protein is dangerous and damaging by itself. Scientifically proven. Fact.
But the Natural News article cited this to claim to say that the vaccines are dangerous since they proliferate S proteins in the vaccinated. Do they? Spoiler: Yes. As if to head off this concern about the vaccines early on the Salk Institute's article linked to another article--an opinion piece by one Dr. Derek Lowe.
https://archive.md/TNiEl This opinion piece on "ScienceMag.org is part of a series called "In The Pipeline" written by Dr. Derek Lowe, whose PhD is in "organic chemistry" and apparently he's a familiar face among "several major pharmaceutical companies" according to his personal bio on the site. He worked in drug discovery projects against diseases ranging from schizophrenia to diabetes and others.

Dr. Lowe's opinion piece about the Covid vaccines in light of the revelation about the S protein states:
Dr. Derek Lowe said:
So I’ve been getting questions about what this means for vaccination: if we’re causing people to express Spike protein via mRNA or adenovirus vectors, are we damaging them just as if they’d been infected with coronavirus? Fortunately, the answer definitely seems to be “no”
Okay so right off the bat we have to acknowledge that the Covid vaccines are actually proliferating--or, to quote Dr. Lowe, "causing people to express"--the S protein which was studied above.

Dr. Lowe, who will go on to argue in favor of the vaccines, did not deny what the Natural News excerpt above stated. He's continuing on in light of it to argue that it is not damaging/dangerous, but he did not deny that this "expression" of S protein is what the vaccines do. Make sure we get that real clear.
Continuing:
Dr. Derek Lowe said:
– in fact, the pseudovirus paper notes near the end that the antibody response generated by vaccination against the Spike protein will be beneficial in two ways, against infection and against the Spike-mediated endothelial damage as well. There are several reasons why the situation is different.
I'm not gonna copy-paste the entire article. Everyone else can do their due diligence and actually read it if they, as they claim, defer to the science.
However, here's some choice excerpts:
Dr. Derek Lowe said:
Compare this, though, to what happens in vaccination. The injection is intramuscular, not into the bloodstream.
Okay this sounds retarded since all things get into your blood if you inject, one way or another, but here he's talking about not taking it like an IV injection which was less effective in animal models for the mRNA vax.
He also explains the reason for muscle soreness and what muscles are meant to be injected (for those planning on getting the vax TAKE NOTE)
Dr. Derek Lowe said:
That’s why a muscle like the deltoid is preferred, because it’s a good target of thicker muscle tissue without any easily hit veins or arteries at the site of injection. [...] So the muscle cells around the injection are hit by the vaccine (whether mRNA-containing lipid nanoparticles or adenovirus vectors) while a good portion of the remaining dose is in the intercellular fluid and thus drains through the lymphatic system, not the bloodstream. That’s what you want, since the lymph nodes are a major site of immune response. [...]
The Spike protein produced by vaccination is not released in a way that it gets to encounter the ACE2 proteins on the surface of other human cells at all: it’s sitting on the surface of muscle and lymphatic cells up in your shoulder, not wandering through your lungs causing trouble.

Some of the vaccine dose is going to make it into the bloodstream, of course. But keep in mind, when the mRNA or adenovirus particles do hit cells outside of the liver or the site of injection, they’re still causing them to express Spike protein anchored on their surfaces, not dumping it into the circulation.
He also makes mention of another factor regarding "wild-type" S proteins but you can read that for yourself. It was an update to the article he made after being informed by comments under the article.
Comment Reply said:
Yes, the stabilised spike binds ACE2 just fine, see:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-34171-7
“Indeed, both the wild-type and 2P-stabilized SARS-CoV S ectodomains demonstrate similar affinities for ACE2 by SPR (185 and 150 nM respectively)”
The Hsieh et al, Science, 2020 paper on HexaPro also notes that the HexaPro mod and the S-2P mod have the same ACE2 affinity (although they don’t make the comparison to wild-type).
(Note that the conformational change upon binding is all about assisting viral entry into the cell, not binding the ACE2 receptor.)
Which I don't think is a good thing. Might be good? I thought the upside of the vaccine was that the S protein stuck to where the vax was injected since it stablized there, but I don't know. This barely sounds like English to me now. What does sound like English is this:
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The link provided in the comment is indeed to another published research study: https://archive.md/bgMrW

Sadly, for all his defense of the vaccines and the S protein, Dr. Lowe did not respond to this comment. Maybe another doctor did elsewhere.
Spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus is damaging and dangerous unto itself even without the virus. ALL the Covid vaccines produce this damaging Spike protein, particularly by causing cells outside the liver or at the injection site--which must be in the muscle (deltoid region specifically) to avoid direct blood transmission--to "express" the S protein. The Spike protein of the vax typically stay in that location instead of moving around the body (hence it being in the muscle). However, some of the vaccine does obviously get into the bloodstream anyway, which is bad in this case because of the nature of the S protein being able to do its damage. This is also potentially the reason for the scare in all manner of reactions to the vax regarding blood clotting, etc.

As I see it, this also means that manufacturing and receiving these vaccines annually like a Flu vax, which is what the vax companies want for profit, could potentially increase risk of damage from the S protein itself, since you'd be repeatedly exposing yourself to the risk in getting the thing into your blood so it can eventually wreak havoc.
TL;DR for the TL;DR Science research, published studies, opinion pieces, etc. explain ultimately ALL THE VACCINES bring about the same S protein which the Coof has, and that S protein is capable of causing damage to cells in the body even without the virus. It also may be tied to the blood clotting issues we've seen.

As-is, there's reasons to consider the vaccines if you're at risk for Covid since you're not inhaling them like you would the virus, but is there rational reason to be concerned about the Covid vaccines?

After all this (and all prior)... What do you think?
Wouldn't it have been great to have learned about this issue of the Spike protein to this extent before developing the vaccines? Man, if only vaccines were typically developed over a longer period of time so that their development could be informed by more research into elements of the virus and study into their long term effects. But what can you do? Gotta make the experimental vaccines for emergency approval only lickety split. Thanks Trump. ...And Biden. And Bill Gates. And international governments and BigPharma and China and....

There's always consequences for rushing things. Hopefully making the vaccines before this study won't lead to severe, long lasting consequences.
 
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This is exactly how it works. When you take a vaccine anything can happen. Our immune systems are complex and it's not one-size-fits-all.

You ARE risking death by taking the vaccine, but you also are whenever you step into a car or go for a walk outside.

The anti-vax and the covid fanatics are one of the same: they are fully unable to understand cost v benefit.
This sounds like science deniery to me.

According to the CDC the vaccine is safe.

Please stop spreading your internet researched nonsense.
 
Had covid and it sucked a lot. According to reinfections in others, natural immunity had expired so I got the vaccine.

Vaccine side effects while short lived were worse for me than the actual experience of covid.
I likely will not be getting boosters in the future for this reason.
You realize vaccine immunity won't last either right?
Do you understand how vaccines even work?
 
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