Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

According to LGBT Wiki, "Salmacian" and "Aphrodisian" are the same thing (mix n match funky junk), but before looking up "Salmacian" just now, I would have associated "Aphrodisian" with "aphrodisiac" (because duh), and thought they had basically given AGP its own "acceptable" snowflake classification.

Though maybe they kinda did, but for mix n matchers?
they may experience euphoria from the idea of having mixed sex characteristics
 
According to LGBT Wiki, "Salmacian" and "Aphrodisian" are the same thing (mix n match funky junk), but before looking up "Salmacian" just now, I would have associated "Aphrodisian" with "aphrodisiac" (because duh), and thought they had basically given AGP its own "acceptable" snowflake classification.

Though maybe they kinda did, but for mix n matchers?
I didn’t know this was a real thing, why would anyone want both a vagina and penis? The only reason I can think of is fetishistic reasons
 
I didn’t know this was a real thing, why would anyone want both a vagina and penis? The only reason I can think of is fetishistic reasons
Too much cartoon porn.

Trannies back in the day, besides having a higher bar to pass to get approved for anything, at least tried to appear to be the other sex. There's no reason for anyone to want a mix of genitals other than porn induced brain rot, which has only become a widespread problem in the last decade or so and coincides with the rise of troonacy. A kid who started wanking to hentai at 14 in 2014 is 21 now, and most of these people are in their late teens or early 20s.
 
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This post showed up as a suggestion when I clicked into the nasty black tranny post.

As far as stinkditches go, this is far from the most horrifying, but... it’s fucking upside down :story:

It looks like a clit/clitoral hood is facing UPWARDS, coming from inside the vagina. WTF?
I'm pretty sure what you are referring to as the clitoral hood is actually the urethra, but it does look like an upside down clit 100%
 
I don't think you can get vaginosis with a fake vag. Lulz at this troon trying to explain the other troon's problem as if it's a real vagina. :lol:
Vaginosis is caused when something creates a bacterial imbalance in the natural ecosystem of the vagina. Considering those bacteria don't exist in post-op holes, you'd be right. What a lot of these people have is what'd be considered jock itch. Basically a fungal growth feeding on dead skin due to the habitable nature of the hole (warm, dark, enough pressure and moisture to facilitate growth, etc). The proximity to their ass only makes it worse. I don't read into this stuff a lot but there's at least some risk of a sinus being created between the faux-vagina and lower GI. That's when you'd start getting a shit smell and with enough time and big enough hole, shit passing through the "vagina".
 
I'm an FTMTF detransitioner, and this thread makes me thank the universe every single goddamn day that I broke out of the trans spell.

It is so profoundly disturbing to me how much crucial information about these life-changing medical procedures is intentionally obscured and downplayed by trans activists, gender therapists and doctors. I don't know how much detail is worth going into, but suffice it to say that I feel like I was taken advantage of by those people at an incredibly vulnerable point in my life. It is astonishing to think about how truly little effort my gender therapist put into assessing if I actually had genuine gender dysphoria. At no point was the idea even alluded to that maybe my gender issues were a result of any one of the million other issues that were going on in my life.

Unfortunately, it took 5 years of testosterone (with some interruptions in treatment for various reasons) and cutting my tits off for me to realize how much I regretted transitioning. But I'm lucky—my detransition is going fairly well, and my estrogen is steadily re-feminizing my body. When I read this thread, I shudder to think what might have happened to me if I hadn't snapped out of it. I had contemplated if I wanted SRS for a long time. Now O look at all the horrific FTM surgery pics here and contemplate the nightmarish alternate reality where I would have ended up like that, with no way to reverse it.

Now I'm imagining what would have happened if I were born male and fell down the trans rabbithole. The main reason I decided definitively against SRS while I was still identifying as trans was that even most trans people admit phalloplasties look ridiculous. But I had always been told by EVERYONE the lie that vaginoplasties are all soooo realistic that they "fool gynecologists". Imagine being promised you'd have a real vagina by everyone around you only to be left with one of these butcher jobs and the subsequent realization that you actually want to return to living as male. I can't imagine what that kind of regret must be like. I mean, Christ, at least I can get breast implants... It's just so disturbing and heartwrenching to think about the people like me who didn't snap out of it until it was far too late.

Sorry for the rant. KF is one of the few places I know I can feel comfortable venting about this crazy ass shit.
 
Now I'm imagining what would have happened if I were born male and fell down the trans rabbithole. The main reason I decided definitively against SRS while I was still identifying as trans was that even most trans people admit phalloplasties look ridiculous. But I had always been told by EVERYONE the lie that vaginoplasties are all soooo realistic that they "fool gynecologists". Imagine being promised you'd have a real vagina by everyone around you only to be left with one of these butcher jobs and the subsequent realization that you actually want to return to living as male. I can't imagine what that kind of regret must be like. I mean, Christ, at least I can get breast implants... It's just so disturbing and heartwrenching to think about the people like me who didn't snap out of it until it was far too late.

Sorry for the rant. KF is one of the few places I know I can feel comfortable venting about this crazy ass shit.
What disturbs me is how much it seems to be going downhill. Or more accurately, how much it has already gone downhill. Since the surgeries started getting covered automatically in so many places, it is just a conveyor belt of butchery.

Other issues aside, I don't think these types of surgeries need to have such horrible results. But learning to do surgeries like this takes a long time and a lot of effort, and how many surgeons are going to devote years of their life and career learning SRS just to operate on Medicaid patients? It's one thing when Medicaid patients are getting mediocre surgeons to do their hernia repairs or gallbladder removals, now they are getting these underexperienced or plain unethical surgeons to do new and very difficult surgeries that restructure a very important and vulnerable body part.

I don't think most non-Medicaid SRS patients have it much better, because surgeons know that the standards are so low that they are going to make bank and be praised no matter what the quality of their work is.

It bothers me the most when it comes to FtM surgery. The difference in results you see in other chest-related surgeries and top surgery is so stark. The top surgeons barely seem to even be trying. Excessive tissue removed, nipples all over the place.

And you cannot tell me that the best method for making a penis is to cut the flesh off someone's arm. Doctors can grow ears and dicks on people's arms and attach those, but they go for the cheap slice-and-dice method. It makes me sick, to be honest.
 
I don't know how much detail is worth going into,
you should try not to powerlevel too much of course, but honestly - any detail you can provide is super helpful. a lot of us have kids and nephews/nieces that are on the cusp of having their teenage insecurities preyed upon by these vile shysters. so I can honestly say (rare on this site) that anything that you relate about your experience that you can think of stood out to you, or is worth mentioning, can help us in how to avert this in the lives of our families and loved ones, since we actually care about them as opposed to whatever insane thoughts and insecurities come into our heads or how much money we can wring out of other desperate people.
 
It took me a couple days to catch up with this, but wow. I feel absolutely sickened by what I have seen. I am a desensitized gorehound, but just the idea of what these people are going through is absolutely mental. This is hopefully the only time I ever PL on Kiwifarms, but I have been identifying as bigender (something on the nonbinary spectrum) pretty solidly since I was 14. I'm 24 now and that hasn't wavered one bit, until now, after reading this thread. I've always had a lot of bottom dysphoria and I had myself convinced for a long time that I wanted phalloplasty and top surgery. Top surgery is always touted as being something super cool and fine, but seeing all of this real horror has just turned me off completely.

I shudder to think of what would have happened if I had never read this? I know this probably sounds ridiculous to read a thread and just reconsider all your life choices, but never in my life have I been so thankful to never have started testosterone or do anything to my body. If it helps to know, I'm also a lesbian. I think that transgender ideology definitely conflicts and fucks with baby dykes who have no idea that they are just dykes.

I think more people need to see this and let it sink in that a lot of this just isn't fucking normal.
 
It took me a couple days to catch up with this, but wow. I feel absolutely sickened by what I have seen. I am a desensitized gorehound, but just the idea of what these people are going through is absolutely mental. This is hopefully the only time I ever PL on Kiwifarms, but I have been identifying as bigender (something on the nonbinary spectrum) pretty solidly since I was 14. I'm 24 now and that hasn't wavered one bit, until now, after reading this thread. I've always had a lot of bottom dysphoria and I had myself convinced for a long time that I wanted phalloplasty and top surgery. Top surgery is always touted as being something super cool and fine, but seeing all of this real horror has just turned me off completely.

I shudder to think of what would have happened if I had never read this? I know this probably sounds ridiculous to read a thread and just reconsider all your life choices, but never in my life have I been so thankful to never have started testosterone or do anything to my body. If it helps to know, I'm also a lesbian. I think that transgender ideology definitely conflicts and fucks with baby dykes who have no idea that they are just dykes.

I think more people need to see this and let it sink in that a lot of this just isn't fucking normal.
If that's one person who changed their mind about becoming a science experiment, this thread has been a public service.
 
It took me a couple days to catch up with this, but wow. I feel absolutely sickened by what I have seen. I am a desensitized gorehound, but just the idea of what these people are going through is absolutely mental. This is hopefully the only time I ever PL on Kiwifarms, but I have been identifying as bigender (something on the nonbinary spectrum) pretty solidly since I was 14. I'm 24 now and that hasn't wavered one bit, until now, after reading this thread. I've always had a lot of bottom dysphoria and I had myself convinced for a long time that I wanted phalloplasty and top surgery. Top surgery is always touted as being something super cool and fine, but seeing all of this real horror has just turned me off completely.

I shudder to think of what would have happened if I had never read this? I know this probably sounds ridiculous to read a thread and just reconsider all your life choices, but never in my life have I been so thankful to never have started testosterone or do anything to my body. If it helps to know, I'm also a lesbian. I think that transgender ideology definitely conflicts and fucks with baby dykes who have no idea that they are just dykes.

I think more people need to see this and let it sink in that a lot of this just isn't fucking normal.
"Bigender" along with the the other weird "MOGAI" 'genders' that autistic "not like the other girls" Tumblerinas come up with is not something that has any meaning whatsoever in the real world outside of certain online echo-chambers. It can mean literally anything, so it means nothing. It has no practical utility or social relevance. That being said, I'm happy for you that you had enough sense not to mutilate yourself or ruin your health with cross-sex hormones, but as someone has already told you, this isn't the place to power-level.
 
What disturbs me is how much it seems to be going downhill. Or more accurately, how much it has already gone downhill. Since the surgeries started getting covered automatically in so many places, it is just a conveyor belt of butchery.

Other issues aside, I don't think these types of surgeries need to have such horrible results. But learning to do surgeries like this takes a long time and a lot of effort, and how many surgeons are going to devote years of their life and career learning SRS just to operate on Medicaid patients? It's one thing when Medicaid patients are getting mediocre surgeons to do their hernia repairs or gallbladder removals, now they are getting these underexperienced or plain unethical surgeons to do new and very difficult surgeries that restructure a very important and vulnerable body part.

I don't think most non-Medicaid SRS patients have it much better, because surgeons know that the standards are so low that they are going to make bank and be praised no matter what the quality of their work is.

It bothers me the most when it comes to FtM surgery. The difference in results you see in other chest-related surgeries and top surgery is so stark. The top surgeons barely seem to even be trying. Excessive tissue removed, nipples all over the place.

And you cannot tell me that the best method for making a penis is to cut the flesh off someone's arm. Doctors can grow ears and dicks on people's arms and attach those, but they go for the cheap slice-and-dice method. It makes me sick, to be honest.
There was a top surgery revision photo posted on the main thread where after the first surgery she still had little dog ears of skin.

Telling MTFs it’s the exact same as the real thing is so horrifying.
 
I'm an FTMTF detransitioner, and this thread makes me thank the universe every single goddamn day that I broke out of the trans spell.

It is so profoundly disturbing to me how much crucial information about these life-changing medical procedures is intentionally obscured and downplayed by trans activists, gender therapists and doctors. I don't know how much detail is worth going into, but suffice it to say that I feel like I was taken advantage of by those people at an incredibly vulnerable point in my life. It is astonishing to think about how truly little effort my gender therapist put into assessing if I actually had genuine gender dysphoria. At no point was the idea even alluded to that maybe my gender issues were a result of any one of the million other issues that were going on in my life.

Unfortunately, it took 5 years of testosterone (with some interruptions in treatment for various reasons) and cutting my tits off for me to realize how much I regretted transitioning. But I'm lucky—my detransition is going fairly well, and my estrogen is steadily re-feminizing my body. When I read this thread, I shudder to think what might have happened to me if I hadn't snapped out of it. I had contemplated if I wanted SRS for a long time. Now O look at all the horrific FTM surgery pics here and contemplate the nightmarish alternate reality where I would have ended up like that, with no way to reverse it.

Now I'm imagining what would have happened if I were born male and fell down the trans rabbithole. The main reason I decided definitively against SRS while I was still identifying as trans was that even most trans people admit phalloplasties look ridiculous. But I had always been told by EVERYONE the lie that vaginoplasties are all soooo realistic that they "fool gynecologists". Imagine being promised you'd have a real vagina by everyone around you only to be left with one of these butcher jobs and the subsequent realization that you actually want to return to living as male. I can't imagine what that kind of regret must be like. I mean, Christ, at least I can get breast implants... It's just so disturbing and heartwrenching to think about the people like me who didn't snap out of it until it was far too late.

Sorry for the rant. KF is one of the few places I know I can feel comfortable venting about this crazy ass shit.

I’m sorry all of this happened to you - I’m even more sorry that voices like yours are being suppressed by the LGBT community - really more or so the cult. There are tons of gay/trans/lesbian etc. that DON’T agree with anything that movement represents. I’ve come to realized it really is like BLM - that if you’re NOT in favor of what BLM does than you OBVIOUSLY hate black people and want them shot dead by cops. Same thing here, with these degenerate Saul Alinsky tactics. Call your organization something NO one can ever be against - if you’re against the LGBT organization, you hate LGBT people. Simple as that. Who knew the common man would be so stupid as to believe this?

This has been expressed on the Jazz Jennings thread and is relevant here - the most horrid thing the LGBT organization does is try to convince gays/trans/lesbians etc. that if someone is NOT an ally, they HATE you. That if someone doesn’t grovel at the feet of the pride flag they have no love in their hearts whatsoever and want to hurt you or even worse want you dead. This notion seems to keep a lot of them held with in that movement - making them believe the LGBTIAQ+LMNOP is the ONLY place these people will find acceptance and love. That’s why they keep using the creepy cult word ALLY. Do they not see how creepy and weird that is? This shit is a CULT.

The whole transgender thing will be looked back at 50 years from now the same way we look at Electric Shock therapy or blood letting today. Why are we so stupid?
 
you should try not to powerlevel too much of course, but honestly - any detail you can provide is super helpful. a lot of us have kids and nephews/nieces that are on the cusp of having their teenage insecurities preyed upon by these vile shysters. so I can honestly say (rare on this site) that anything that you relate about your experience that you can think of stood out to you, or is worth mentioning, can help us in how to avert this in the lives of our families and loved ones, since we actually care about them as opposed to whatever insane thoughts and insecurities come into our heads or how much money we can wring out of other desperate people.

I've been drafting something to post on one of the other trans threads going more in-depth about how I ended up descending into troonism (and why other people do), but I keep going back and forth on how much detail is too much. There's a lot to unpack with this shit, especially for FTMs/TIFs.

Anyone can feel free to PM me if they have questions. If I can, I want to help prevent other people from having to go through this (or worse).
 
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