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Hehe yeah!
Post a pic when he arrives. If it's the vinyl figure and he's half-price, too, I wanna see this for myself. Maybe I'll get him for my baby bro's birthday.
The Godzilla Thread - Plus other giant monsters, no matter how popular or obscure
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Post a pic when he arrives. If it's the vinyl figure and he's half-price, too, I wanna see this for myself. Maybe I'll get him for my baby bro's birthday.
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I promise I'll post pics - I have a place in mind for him in my art room and it would be an ideal place to take photos of him!
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GIIIIIGAAAAANNN!
RISE!!!
He arrived alongside the gifts I've gotten my dad for Father's Day. He's absolutely legit. The pictures don't do the figurine enough justice. The sheen they put on his golden scales is amazing, positioning his arms and legs is flexible and I'm totally satisfied with him. here in the UK he was about £40.00 Normally but I got him for half price - worth every penny!
Bonus Pic:
EDIT: WTF spoilers go home you're drunk.
RISE!!!
Bonus Pic:
I buy weeb art supplies too so it was only fitting I show some of them alongside him.
EDIT: WTF spoilers go home you're drunk.
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Oh my goodness, look at the SHEEN! He an Ebay purchase or from someplace else?
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He's on Amazon! Look up Bandai Godzilla Movie Monster Series and you should be able to find one.
As I said the pics don't do it justice. The sheen is amazing IRL.
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Went to check his collection very quick and I forgot he does have one (the sheen is definitely legit). So I went ahead to get the Bandai Singular Point Godzilla Ultima and Jet Jaguar figurines instead.
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All caught up on Singular Point. Unputdownable. But man, if they cut out all the masturbatory theoretical quantum physics bullhockey, it'd probably be six episodes. It makes peak-technobabble Star Trek: TNG sound straightforward and to the point.
Although I'll tell you, guys, episode ten put a stupid grin on my face.
Although I'll tell you, guys, episode ten put a stupid grin on my face.
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I was about to be disappointed with that ending buuuuutttt.....
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I wouldn't mind if a sequel doesn't happen given how some of the Millennium movies operated, but it's just too cool to leave hanging, honestly.
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Totally agree. All that dimensional time travel stenography in the lullaby nonsense felt like fluff. The action was good and damn love that kaiju design. The Buddist inspired kaiju look so much more ominous.
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Ok, even without what was shown after the end credits. The final episode ends with "This is how the story starts" So i'm guessing they are really pushing for a sequel, which I am really up for. So this first season was a setup for this animated Godzilla universe.
I think with the final act of the OD and the creation the final phase of the archtype in the end scene (the blue crystal). Now humans have a new power source, maybe allowing for leaps in technology like this MechaG.
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I agree, the kaiju designs were great, over-long tails and everything. I was surprised that they based the Rodans on fairly up-to-date representations of pterosaurs. One picture used in a news report was even based on another by a paleontologist, that did the rounds a few years ago.
Something is very familiar about Godzilla's second form. I think it's based on another piece of paleoart but I can't place it.
And Salunga there, he looks like he's based on Gabara, but - especially with his penchant for relentlessly breaking through impenetrable barriers - he has a bit of Forbidden Planet about him too.
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Think they're waiting for the first World of Godzilla movie to come out. Supposedly it'll be filming this year, but it might be next year since GvK had to be delayed.
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It's difficult to say how I feel about that last episode. Exciting things happened, there were many dazzling visuals, but as Clown College said, it turned out a little meh.
For a show titled 'Godzilla', Godzilla sure felt incidental to the plot. He properly showed up ten episodes into a thirteen-episode season, and did less than he would do in any given film. His threat wasn't even stepping on Tokyo, but colliding realities? I'm still not sure about that, or what the kaiju were meant to be. Alternate realities? Higher dimensions? It's clouded by the kind of overcomplicated word salad that turned me off Planet of the Monsters, too.
The leads were a pair of cold fish. I don't know if this is the writers coming to the same conclusion as Shane 'tism is the future' Black. I don't remember Mei and Yun changing their expressions from 'confused anxiety' and 'indifferent scowl'. When Professor Li died, I was deep into the next episode before I realised I should have cared. The only pang of concern I felt was when Habanero and Granpa, the comic relief, fell to their deaths, and even that was cheated when they happened to land on the one bit of japanese overpass constructed from balloons, marshmallows and goosedown pillows.
And the key to defeating Godzilla and preventing the catastrophe was...
Well it looked nice. The last bit got me excited. Fingers crossed?
For a show titled 'Godzilla', Godzilla sure felt incidental to the plot. He properly showed up ten episodes into a thirteen-episode season, and did less than he would do in any given film. His threat wasn't even stepping on Tokyo, but colliding realities? I'm still not sure about that, or what the kaiju were meant to be. Alternate realities? Higher dimensions? It's clouded by the kind of overcomplicated word salad that turned me off Planet of the Monsters, too.
The leads were a pair of cold fish. I don't know if this is the writers coming to the same conclusion as Shane 'tism is the future' Black. I don't remember Mei and Yun changing their expressions from 'confused anxiety' and 'indifferent scowl'. When Professor Li died, I was deep into the next episode before I realised I should have cared. The only pang of concern I felt was when Habanero and Granpa, the comic relief, fell to their deaths, and even that was cheated when they happened to land on the one bit of japanese overpass constructed from balloons, marshmallows and goosedown pillows.
And the key to defeating Godzilla and preventing the catastrophe was...
... left behind the Sheriff's sign in San Dimas.
Well it looked nice. The last bit got me excited. Fingers crossed?
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Dub for Singular Point is on Netflix, just came home to find my little brother midway through the series. Had no idea it was out lol.
Pronunciation is cringe, though, but maybe that's just me being too used to the Godzilla dubs.
Pronunciation is cringe, though, but maybe that's just me being too used to the Godzilla dubs.
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Finally watched Godzilla Singular Point! I watched it in both Japanese with subtitles and in English just to see if the differing languages would make for a different experience.
My thoughts:
Overall, I enjoyed it, but I didn't love it like I wanted to. And its sad because it felt like they were just stretching and filling to get to 13 episodes, when honestly, this could have worked just fine as a smaller miniseries if you cut out the extraneous stuff. Hopefully, a season 2 provides something with a bit more focus and less filler that doesn't need to be there. And here we are after a full anime trilogy and a 13 episode series, and the animated series based on the maligned Tristar Godzilla movie is STILL the best animated Godzilla. Unreal.
But judging SP on its own, I liked the visual style, the big moments with the monsters are awesome, and there is fun to be had.
My thoughts:
This thing was both amazing and baffling at the same time. I could easily see this show splitting the fans. Not in a The Last Jedi never ending bitchfest way, but in more in the same way that Beast Machines split Transformers fans. Some loved it for being different, and others that loved Beast Wars and wanted a follow up to it, were disappointed by the direction they took.
The biggest problem with the whole series is the CONSTANT instances of technobabble and exposition. I'm not expert in physics or mathematics, but supposedly, the jargon spouted throughout the series is grounded in some level of scientific accuracy. That's all well and good, but when it dominates the discussions from the characters, it makes me feel like I'm watching a lecture I wasn't invited to or something. While I could follow it, it is way too much for most audiences ot keep track of. Between explaining the Red Dust, the Archetypes, the Super Computer, the Singular Point, the Orthognal Diagonalizer, the Catastrophe, how the lullaby fits into all of thise, and all sorts of other things, it just felt like the story got way too bogged down in its pseudo-science. I expect technobabble in Godzilla, and hey, if it has some basis in reality, even better, but it shouldn't dominate a majority of the show.
Sidebar, but I actually found it easier to understand in Japanese instead of English. Something about reading it made it easier to digest than hearing it, haha.
The science jargon got in the way of character development and of showcasing the monsters. Godzilla himself largely feels like he's used for the introduction before the theme song and end of episode cliffhanger of most episodes and not much else. And then there is a lot of exposition being thrown at us inbetween, and it doesn't help that the cast of characters is pretty large too. We essentially have two main characters that we follow throughout the show and a slew of side characters that they interact with. There are even two characters that exist as AI/Apps to serve similar functions of their respective characters. Its alot of information being thrown at us.
Honestly, if they had trimmed the fat (shed a few characters, a chunk of the exposition, etc.) and shorten the series to maybe 8 episodes, it would have been amazing. But with so much unnecessary filler, exposition, and characters, it feels overly long and bloated, and will definitely lose people.
There are also things that feel like senseless teases. Episode 1 ends with an AWESOME reveal of a Godzilla Skeleton, making me wonder how it was going to fit into the story, and it ultimately amounts to a Season 2 teaser in the final scene of Episode 13. Its an awesome teaser, sure, but I wish it had more of an impact on the story of season 1 instead of being yet another sidebar. There is also a reference & teaser to Mothra that goes largely unfulfilled.
Now onto the positives:
The animation style is great! It mixes traditional 2D with the monsters themselves being rendered with 3D CGI, which makes for an amazing mix that emphasizes the out-of-this-world nature of the monsters, and it creates a lot of fantastic moments of monster fighting and carnage. This is where Singular Point succeeds over the Anime Trilogy. The style of those three films was something I never really got used to and on top of that, it never really delivered the goods when it came to the monsters. This show looks awesome and gives us great moments for the monsters. It only makes me wish they had really trimmed the fat and the show wasn't bogged down with filler becuase the monster stuff is quite good.
As for the characters I liked the most, I liked Otaki Goro, the cooky creator of Jet Jaguar. He was just a fun, angry, and adventurous guy, and before Jet Jaguar became its own character, it was cool to see him jump in the seat and pilot JJ himself. Mei Kamino was fine as the smart person trying to figure everything out, but they didn't give her much of a character beyond her obsession with figuring all this stuff out. The app/robot Pelops II was there to be cutesy, but felt completely unnecesary since the other app, Yung, was used to give life to Jet Jaguar. Yun Arikawa looked like he was more bored by everything going on than anything else, which is a weird way to present one of the leads. BB was fun and weird, but not much else. Everyone else is just sort of...there. Taking up space, and again, there are too many characters to keep track of anyway. As it turns out, my favorite character was actually someone unexpected...more on him in a bit.
Going into the monsters, Godzilla in this show seems to have taken a page from Shin Godzilla's playbook with a constantly evolving form that starts off as an auquatic beast resembling Titannosaurus, a terrestrial animal that resembles Varan, a dinosaurian form that resembles Gorosaurus & Gabara, and his final form Godzilla Ultima which looks awesome and traditional to the King. If you're expecting Godzilla to be all over this thing, you will be let down. He doesn't even show up until episode 3 and he isn't fully evolved until the end of Episode 10. So...its going to test people's patience, but the classic Godzilla theme helps punctuate the big moments, and when Godzilla does stuff, its awesome and feels apocalyptic, again, feeling like Shin Godzilla in the process. Also, extending Godzilla's level of destruction to potential universal destruction is good ridiculous fun.
Now the real star of the series is actually Jet Jaguar. Honestly, they could have just called it a Jet Jaguar series and that would feel more appropriate. It really feels like the robot's journey from creation, to gaining of sentience, making its own weapon out of Anguirus' spike, to gaining the power to fight Godzilla, to ultimately, self sacrifice to save the world. It took one of the goofiest characters from the pantheon of Godzilla co-stars and made him the star of the show, and honestly, he ended up being my favorite character in the whole thing, so we can call that a success. His heavy focus ultimately makes Godzilla feel like a final boss rather than the star, but if you like Jet Jaguar, his role here is going to work for you.
Rodan gets to used as kind of the army of the monsters. To see flocks of Rodan flying by as they spread the Red Dust creates some hellish imagery, and the action scenes utilizing them are some of the show's best moments. Them falling out of the sky and dying, revealing that the Red Dust is how they stay alive, is one of the creepiest scenes in the show, and effective in its exposition too (Show don't tell, come on!). But, this also has a slight negative of reducing Rodan to fodder for Jet Jaguar and Godzilla to swipe through. They kind of serve the same function here that the Servum did in the anime trilogy. They are a regular presence, good to see, and they look great, but it makes Rodan feel like less of a god this time around.
Speaking of fodder, Manda basically got the same treatment that Kamaebas got in Tokyo SOS. Its just there to be fodder for Godzilla...but hey the Mandas look cool in the process.
Kumonga gets to comeback in an awesome sequence as the spider monsters provide a unique challenge for Jet Jaguar and the characters too, providing a fun piece of survival horror. That was one of the better sequences in the show.
And then there is my boy Anguirus...that four legged lug always makes me happy, and this was no exception. His role here was similar to Baragon in GMK. He's not the star. He feels like he's there just to give long term fans happy while the story moves along, and to that end, it succeeds. Anguirus' chase sequence is again, one of the standout sequences in the show and it was cool to have the guy back, even if he was killed by Jet Jaguar, lol.
Finally there is Salunga, the new guy. I'm always in favor of creating new monsters, so its cool to have a new guy. He was the monster we all mistook for Gabara in the trailer, and clearly draws inspiration from that design, with a little Baragon through in there too, and he has his moments to shine. Again, I'm just happy to see a new monster. This design seems to maximize the potential of the Gabara design that failed in the low rent Godzilla's Revenge.
Other odds and ends: The music throughout the show is really good. The classic Godzilla theme always helps to elevate things, but the rest of the music is pretty good and punctuates the big moments very well. Also, there are some neat little nods to Godzilla's past too. The Orthogonal Diagonalizer is almost identical to the classic Oxygen Destroyer, and we even get a nod to NIGEL of the 1998 Tristar animated series! That was a pleasant surprise.
The biggest problem with the whole series is the CONSTANT instances of technobabble and exposition. I'm not expert in physics or mathematics, but supposedly, the jargon spouted throughout the series is grounded in some level of scientific accuracy. That's all well and good, but when it dominates the discussions from the characters, it makes me feel like I'm watching a lecture I wasn't invited to or something. While I could follow it, it is way too much for most audiences ot keep track of. Between explaining the Red Dust, the Archetypes, the Super Computer, the Singular Point, the Orthognal Diagonalizer, the Catastrophe, how the lullaby fits into all of thise, and all sorts of other things, it just felt like the story got way too bogged down in its pseudo-science. I expect technobabble in Godzilla, and hey, if it has some basis in reality, even better, but it shouldn't dominate a majority of the show.
Sidebar, but I actually found it easier to understand in Japanese instead of English. Something about reading it made it easier to digest than hearing it, haha.
The science jargon got in the way of character development and of showcasing the monsters. Godzilla himself largely feels like he's used for the introduction before the theme song and end of episode cliffhanger of most episodes and not much else. And then there is a lot of exposition being thrown at us inbetween, and it doesn't help that the cast of characters is pretty large too. We essentially have two main characters that we follow throughout the show and a slew of side characters that they interact with. There are even two characters that exist as AI/Apps to serve similar functions of their respective characters. Its alot of information being thrown at us.
Honestly, if they had trimmed the fat (shed a few characters, a chunk of the exposition, etc.) and shorten the series to maybe 8 episodes, it would have been amazing. But with so much unnecessary filler, exposition, and characters, it feels overly long and bloated, and will definitely lose people.
There are also things that feel like senseless teases. Episode 1 ends with an AWESOME reveal of a Godzilla Skeleton, making me wonder how it was going to fit into the story, and it ultimately amounts to a Season 2 teaser in the final scene of Episode 13. Its an awesome teaser, sure, but I wish it had more of an impact on the story of season 1 instead of being yet another sidebar. There is also a reference & teaser to Mothra that goes largely unfulfilled.
Now onto the positives:
The animation style is great! It mixes traditional 2D with the monsters themselves being rendered with 3D CGI, which makes for an amazing mix that emphasizes the out-of-this-world nature of the monsters, and it creates a lot of fantastic moments of monster fighting and carnage. This is where Singular Point succeeds over the Anime Trilogy. The style of those three films was something I never really got used to and on top of that, it never really delivered the goods when it came to the monsters. This show looks awesome and gives us great moments for the monsters. It only makes me wish they had really trimmed the fat and the show wasn't bogged down with filler becuase the monster stuff is quite good.
As for the characters I liked the most, I liked Otaki Goro, the cooky creator of Jet Jaguar. He was just a fun, angry, and adventurous guy, and before Jet Jaguar became its own character, it was cool to see him jump in the seat and pilot JJ himself. Mei Kamino was fine as the smart person trying to figure everything out, but they didn't give her much of a character beyond her obsession with figuring all this stuff out. The app/robot Pelops II was there to be cutesy, but felt completely unnecesary since the other app, Yung, was used to give life to Jet Jaguar. Yun Arikawa looked like he was more bored by everything going on than anything else, which is a weird way to present one of the leads. BB was fun and weird, but not much else. Everyone else is just sort of...there. Taking up space, and again, there are too many characters to keep track of anyway. As it turns out, my favorite character was actually someone unexpected...more on him in a bit.
Going into the monsters, Godzilla in this show seems to have taken a page from Shin Godzilla's playbook with a constantly evolving form that starts off as an auquatic beast resembling Titannosaurus, a terrestrial animal that resembles Varan, a dinosaurian form that resembles Gorosaurus & Gabara, and his final form Godzilla Ultima which looks awesome and traditional to the King. If you're expecting Godzilla to be all over this thing, you will be let down. He doesn't even show up until episode 3 and he isn't fully evolved until the end of Episode 10. So...its going to test people's patience, but the classic Godzilla theme helps punctuate the big moments, and when Godzilla does stuff, its awesome and feels apocalyptic, again, feeling like Shin Godzilla in the process. Also, extending Godzilla's level of destruction to potential universal destruction is good ridiculous fun.
Now the real star of the series is actually Jet Jaguar. Honestly, they could have just called it a Jet Jaguar series and that would feel more appropriate. It really feels like the robot's journey from creation, to gaining of sentience, making its own weapon out of Anguirus' spike, to gaining the power to fight Godzilla, to ultimately, self sacrifice to save the world. It took one of the goofiest characters from the pantheon of Godzilla co-stars and made him the star of the show, and honestly, he ended up being my favorite character in the whole thing, so we can call that a success. His heavy focus ultimately makes Godzilla feel like a final boss rather than the star, but if you like Jet Jaguar, his role here is going to work for you.
Rodan gets to used as kind of the army of the monsters. To see flocks of Rodan flying by as they spread the Red Dust creates some hellish imagery, and the action scenes utilizing them are some of the show's best moments. Them falling out of the sky and dying, revealing that the Red Dust is how they stay alive, is one of the creepiest scenes in the show, and effective in its exposition too (Show don't tell, come on!). But, this also has a slight negative of reducing Rodan to fodder for Jet Jaguar and Godzilla to swipe through. They kind of serve the same function here that the Servum did in the anime trilogy. They are a regular presence, good to see, and they look great, but it makes Rodan feel like less of a god this time around.
Speaking of fodder, Manda basically got the same treatment that Kamaebas got in Tokyo SOS. Its just there to be fodder for Godzilla...but hey the Mandas look cool in the process.
Kumonga gets to comeback in an awesome sequence as the spider monsters provide a unique challenge for Jet Jaguar and the characters too, providing a fun piece of survival horror. That was one of the better sequences in the show.
And then there is my boy Anguirus...that four legged lug always makes me happy, and this was no exception. His role here was similar to Baragon in GMK. He's not the star. He feels like he's there just to give long term fans happy while the story moves along, and to that end, it succeeds. Anguirus' chase sequence is again, one of the standout sequences in the show and it was cool to have the guy back, even if he was killed by Jet Jaguar, lol.
Finally there is Salunga, the new guy. I'm always in favor of creating new monsters, so its cool to have a new guy. He was the monster we all mistook for Gabara in the trailer, and clearly draws inspiration from that design, with a little Baragon through in there too, and he has his moments to shine. Again, I'm just happy to see a new monster. This design seems to maximize the potential of the Gabara design that failed in the low rent Godzilla's Revenge.
Other odds and ends: The music throughout the show is really good. The classic Godzilla theme always helps to elevate things, but the rest of the music is pretty good and punctuates the big moments very well. Also, there are some neat little nods to Godzilla's past too. The Orthogonal Diagonalizer is almost identical to the classic Oxygen Destroyer, and we even get a nod to NIGEL of the 1998 Tristar animated series! That was a pleasant surprise.
Overall, I enjoyed it, but I didn't love it like I wanted to. And its sad because it felt like they were just stretching and filling to get to 13 episodes, when honestly, this could have worked just fine as a smaller miniseries if you cut out the extraneous stuff. Hopefully, a season 2 provides something with a bit more focus and less filler that doesn't need to be there. And here we are after a full anime trilogy and a 13 episode series, and the animated series based on the maligned Tristar Godzilla movie is STILL the best animated Godzilla. Unreal.
But judging SP on its own, I liked the visual style, the big moments with the monsters are awesome, and there is fun to be had.