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I think what happened here is that the grain size of the gunpowder got smaller and smaller as the round got handled and bumped around over the years,
and basically turned from slow burning big grain rifle powder into instantly burning gunpowder "dust". That would explain the enormous pressure spike.
Think loading a big rifle round with fast burning pistol powder. Same amount of powder as before, but now you get an insane pressure spike because the whole charge goes off at once instead of "slowly" burning as the round travels down the barrel.
I like this hypothesis.

Powder grinds its self down over time and the fine particles eventually find their way to the same spot like oil floating on water. Could probably diagnose this visually by opening up a cartridge.

Regardless the powder should be sent to a lab that can verify its composition.
 
I like this hypothesis.

Powder grinds its self down over time and the fine particles eventually find their way to the same spot like oil floating on water. Could probably diagnose this visually by opening up a cartridge.

Regardless the powder should be sent to a lab that can verify its composition.
That would be nice to do, and it's a solid theory, but my understanding is that they fired all of the rounds they had available to them.
 
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That would be nice to do, and it's a solid theory, but my understanding is that they fired all of the rounds they had available to them.
I like this hypothesis.

Powder grinds its self down over time and the fine particles eventually find their way to the same spot like oil floating on water. Could probably diagnose this visually by opening up a cartridge.

Regardless the powder should be sent to a lab that can verify its composition.
Ammo doesnt like hot conditions, especially if its not sealed well (Like a plastic sabot that has been known to corrode). IIRC, the majority of SLAP on the civilian market is gulf war vintage. its a bad combo.
 
The closest thing I could find to footage of an M2 having catastrophic failure was this footage from a test being run on an M2 with it's headspace and timing being off. It's still pretty violent. I wonder what Kentucky's ill-fated SLAP round would have done if it was fired out of an actual M2:
That's a nice fireworks display, but I think most of it would be constrained by the receiver if that had been a fully-assembled weapon. That SLAP round would likely still have destroyed the action, though. Possibly even sheared the breech locking surfaces, which is a frightening thought in and of itself.
 
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The last C&Rsenal video was good, but I'm a bit worried about their sanity. They should probably take a break before someone gets hurt.

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Even shilled some modern "Minute Man" gear for it since he was a rather large proponent for its usage in the current age.
I can't decide if that's a good idea or a boomerish one. On the one hand they're pretty robust, sure, and they were decent rifles for their time. But on the other hand you can buy a Martini-Henry repro made for modern 30-06 that's completely idiot-proof with an action that can be rebuilt with hand-tools if necessary (if you're a prepper and think the Big One is happening soon), or just get a good AR platform rifle that's lighter and shoots better than a Garand and learn how to take care of it.
 
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I can't decide if that's a good idea or a boomerish one. On the one hand they're pretty robust, sure, and they were decent rifles for their time. But on the other hand you can buy a Martini-Henry repro made for modern 30-06 that's completely idiot-proof with an action that can be rebuilt with hand-tools if necessary (if you're a prepper and think the Big One is happening soon), or just get a good AR platform rifle that's lighter and shoots better than a Garand and learn how to take care of it.
He was pushing it in 2012, before ARs were in every house and easy to acquire, so it was assumed that the M1 Garand was still relevant as a semi-automatic that people would own at the time.

Sidenote, I'm not aware of any Martini-Henry rifles in .30-06; just the Damko ones that cost almost two thousand dollars and the closest chambering is .303 British. If you could share, I'd appreciate it. Would be neat.
 
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Martini-Henry repro made for modern 30-06 that's completely idiot-proof with an action that can be rebuilt with hand-tools if necessary
Martini-Henry rifles in .30-06
Martini Metford's can be converted to either .303 or .308 and it's surprisingly easy to do so - literally the bolt and barrel, all other parts are drop-in. however the carbine is more collectible/valuable in it's original form, typically.

i had an M1 Rifle prototype based on the BM59 using a Navy M1 Conversion .308 rifle and repurposed M14 bottom metal for the stock reinforcement. with select profiling, i was able to get it to work with FN FAL, HK G3, and US M14 magazines. swapping magazines would be swapping the bottom metal. there's little interest in that sort of thing now though as cheaper and arguably more useful rifles are available to the average buyer and .308 is significantly more expensive than .223 even in better times.
 
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He was pushing it in 2012, before ARs were in every house and easy to acquire, so it was assumed that the M1 Garand was still relevant as a semi-automatic that people would own at the time.

Sidenote, I'm not aware of any Martini-Henry rifles in .30-06; just the Damko ones that cost almost two thousand dollars and the closest chambering is .303 British. If you could share, I'd appreciate it. Would be neat.
I just went and looked and can't find the listing I remember seeing for it. Probably just my memory playing tricks on me, or a snowflake modification like @Club Sandwich is talking about.
 
I can't decide if that's a good idea or a boomerish one. On the one hand they're pretty robust, sure, and they were decent rifles for their time. But on the other hand you can buy a Martini-Henry repro made for modern 30-06 that's completely idiot-proof with an action that can be rebuilt with hand-tools if necessary (if you're a prepper and think the Big One is happening soon), or just get a good AR platform rifle that's lighter and shoots better than a Garand and learn how to take care of it.
Never watched his content, but I think the M1 still has something going for it, because it's still a semi-automatic rifle in .30-06, which can be reloaded very fast, and if you use an aftermarket gasplug you can shoot those high powered hunting loads with extra heavy projectiles. It was an extremely good rifle for its day, better than any of the other WW2 era battle rifles by far, and I think that it still isn't half bad (from a largely civilian perspective, mind).
 
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I got an idea for a way to troll Karl. What we should do is contact all the people with broken WWSD and send them to Karl all on November 21st, which is National Cuck Day. Thoughts?
Any time you ever say to yourself "I have an idea for a way to troll X", you are wrong.
 
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Never watched his content, but I think the M1 still has something going for it, because it's still a semi-automatic rifle in .30-06, which can be reloaded very fast, and if you use an aftermarket gasplug you can shoot those high powered hunting loads with extra heavy projectiles. It was an extremely good rifle for its day, better than any of the other WW2 era battle rifles by far, and I think that it still isn't half bad (from a largely civilian perspective, mind).
Why not get an M14/FAL/G3 then? Full power 7.62 is enough and 20rd mags are massive, quick to change and don't fly off on empty so you can easily put them back in your pocket and reuse. Not saying M1 is bad; it's very very good, but it's a bit obsolete nowadays.
 
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