Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

Is JacobTMK the Fatman?

  • Yes! It's a deadringer!

    Votes: 305 13.2%
  • No! That's Dream!

    Votes: 1,713 74.1%
  • It's neither of them!

    Votes: 295 12.8%

  • Total voters
    2,313
I know that, but the video/person just sort of came out of no where. Plus they reposted that Tyrone video to their account so I'm not sure if it's bait or genuine.
Looking at the video and their comments they are 100% serious and say they "grew out of it" because they got bored watching all of the SMP creators apparently.
Of course, stans in the comments are mad and asking why they wasted $60 on merch if they were going to just quit the fandom, & others begging for the sweatshirt
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When did pretending to have DID get so popular? Is this what otherkins came up with to stop hating each other over picking the same person to kin?

I was looking in some MCYT related discords lately, and in BBH's discord, there's been more than one person come in and announce they have DID to everyone and them immediately start pretending like they're switching between 5 different people. The disc called them dumb and told them to fuck off.

However, I also took a look in Sapnap's discord, they have a long pin describing a bullshit version of DID with a glossary, and I've been told people have been banned for refusing to indulge others fantasies. Interestingly the pin isn't even in the rules channel, and it's added by a staff member who doesn't have Sapnap, or Dream, or anything else, added as a friend. I feel like the lunatics run the asylum.
Make a discord just for people who claim to have did hmmmmmmm. :thinking:
 
Looking at the video and their comments they are 100% serious and say they "grew out of it" because they got bored watching all of the SMP creators apparently.
Of course, stans in the comments are mad and asking why they wasted $60 on merch if they were going to just quit the fandom, & others begging for the sweatshirt
Shit like this makes me optimistic because, for a majority of these fans, their obsessive followings of things are really a phase in their life, and for the most part, they grow out of it, find their center, and learn to laugh at how cringey they were back then. It's a cycle since time immemorial and everyone has gone through a point of that in their lives sometime

I bet that kid is looking through the comments of their video chucking to themselves at all the stans clamoring for the merch while thinking that they used to be like that. Gives hopeful optimism for some of the autists we see here on the community watch,
 
Looking at the video and their comments they are 100% serious and say they "grew out of it" because they got bored watching all of the SMP creators apparently.
Of course, stans in the comments are mad and asking why they wasted $60 on merch if they were going to just quit the fandom, & others begging for the sweatshirt
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The mcyt videos are so incredibly unfunny and dry I’m honestly shocked they didn’t get bored sooner.

The fact people are being passive-aggressive and going “no way it HAS to be the fandom, the smp videos cant be that boring!” makes me wonder what they find so entertaining about it. Maybe they just want an excuse to make the closest thing to yaoi but for the streamers so they watch the lore for shipping reasons.
 
Sorry if its a little late but i had to share my thoughts about the Karl vid: The fact that Karl says with a straight face that Dream deleted the mods folder "in a rage" and just accepts that is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. I've broken things before in a rage, but I've never methodically deleted files, particularly the very files that would reveal that you were cheating, all the while maintaining that you were completely unaware of the folders contents. You literally have to be a retard to believe this shit, there is too much money on the line and this guy already paid people to fabricate testimony and everyone remains anonymous like some media hit piece. Even if you are approaching this testing a hypothesis of innocence, about 20 minutes into Karls video is the moment where a fair person considering the hypothesis should realize its not adding up and can safely conclude the dude cheated, but Karl picks up the smoking gun and throws it in the trash while stating a illogical, unrelatable and manipulative appeal to emotion.

Karl's is used to investigating autistic 007 speedrunners who at most get like 50 viewers, cheating there is low stakes and only prestige and respect among the Elite community is one the line. This is different, Millions of dollars, Dream, His numerous employees, and their salaries are on the line, and the prestige and popularity aspect is 10,000 times more significant as well. You need to be infinitely more critical when going from investigating pointless videogames to actual monetarily backed corruption and his incapability to even consider the potential of conspiracy transpiring over something this important makes him seem incredibly low iq or outright disingenuous, particularly after being so open to testing the innocence hypothesis without limits and against all common sense. Dream has already demonstrated that he will pay whoever it has to be whatever he needs to have that authoritative figure declare his innocence and convince the public, and after his other videos on the topic, that man was clearly Mr Jobst. Karl glosses over key evidence, uses manipulative language, tells us not to ask questions and also keeps key figures anonymous and tells us to just trust him blindly. Karl is either out of his depth and was masterfully manipulated or was just straight up bought off. end of autism
 
You literally have to be a retard to believe this shit, there is too much money on the line and this guy already paid people to fabricate testimony and everyone remains anonymous like some media hit piece.
Sauce?

Karl's is used to investigating autistic 007 speedrunners who at most get like 50 viewers, cheating there is low stakes and only prestige and respect among the Elite community is one the line. This is different, Millions of dollars, Dream, His numerous employees, and their salaries are on the line, and the prestige and popularity aspect is 10,000 times more significant as well. You need to be infinitely more critical when going from investigating pointless videogames to actual monetarily backed corruption and his incapability to even consider the potential of conspiracy transpiring over something this important makes him seem incredibly low iq or outright disingenuous, particularly after being so open to testing the innocence hypothesis without limits and against all common sense.

Karl has made videos critical of Badabun (a channel almost twice the size of Clay's that regularly uses DMCA takedowns to silence criticism), Todd Rogers, and Billy Mitchell, the latter two having filed multiple lawsuits to defend their lies. Hell, Mitchell's already suing Karl over his videos, so it's not like Karl's afraid to stand his ground.

Dream has already demonstrated that he will pay whoever it has to be whatever he needs to have that authoritative figure declare his innocence and convince the public, and after his other videos on the topic, that man was clearly Mr Jobst. Karl glosses over key evidence, uses manipulative language, tells us not to ask questions and also keeps key figures anonymous and tells us to just trust him blindly. Karl is either out of his depth and was masterfully manipulated or was just straight up bought off. end of autism
I'm not gonna comment on the bought off claims, considering this is the first I've seen it brought up, but at this point in time there is no party involved with the situation who's been able to provide evidence that refutes what Karl went over. Furthermore, Karl actually said the opposite multiple times, saying that you should never blindly question what people tell you, and that you should do your own research before coming to your own conclusions.

All of that said, you're severely overvaluing the impact this entire situation has had or will have on Clay's career. At this point, he's yet to get into a controversy that has majorly impacted his growth, and I doubt he'll get into one any time soon.
 
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Sorry if its a little late but i had to share my thoughts about the Karl vid: The fact that Karl says with a straight face that Dream deleted the mods folder "in a rage" and just accepts that is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. I've broken things before in a rage, but I've never methodically deleted files, particularly the very files that would reveal that you were cheating, all the while maintaining that you were completely unaware of the folders contents.
True, but that's only if we are talking about a normal and rational human being in which Dream isn't.

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New Bowblax video documenting the situation between Dream, Dunkey, & Fireb0rn.

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1:36 Stream Start
4:29 Fireb0rn Video
17:04 Dunkey
18:48 Recap
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Fat minecraft youtuber vs guy that likes watching his girl get fucked vs guy with "god gamer" in his bios, quite the autistic line up
 
The mcyt videos are so incredibly unfunny and dry I’m honestly shocked they didn’t get bored sooner.
Deadwing Dork really hit the nail on the head with his latest stream about MCYT. It's just a bunch of kids with no personality playing Minecraft and it's really surprising that kids are not watching JayStation instead.

To anyone who is curious about the stream:
 
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Deadwing Dork really hit the nail with his latest stream about MCYT. It's just a bunch of kids with no personality playing Minecraft and it's really surprising that kids are not watching JayStation instead. I want to link the thing but it was sadly unlisted.
I'm still adamant that no matter how dry a Minecraft Youtuber may be or how mediocre they are, so long as they are at LEAST conventionally attractive, teenage girls will make fanart of them, music video edits, and fixate on them the way teenage girls have done for time immemorial, and this snowballs into them getting more and more attention much to the chagrin and confusion of people outside of the loop.

You got Dream and his team who (at least appear to be or project to be) attractive white boys that teenagers can project their fantasies to and often encourage them to do so; You have Wilbur and Tommy and others who have a bit more charisma, but are also relatively attractive looking; hell, you can have someone who doesn't show much of their face like Ranboo or Techno, and fans will still find a way to fetishize them

The content and novelty of their Minecraft videos are only secondary to their innate appeal and what appeal their fans project on them in their heads. It's something that I believe Clayton is very much aware of and weaponizes whenever he can.
 
I'm still adamant that no matter how dry a Minecraft Youtuber may be or how mediocre they are, so long as they are at LEAST conventionally attractive, teenage girls will make fanart of them, music video edits, and fixate on them the way teenage girls have done for time immemorial, and this snowballs into them getting more and more attention much to the chagrin and confusion of people outside of the loop.

You got Dream and his team who (at least appear to be or project to be) attractive white boys that teenagers can project their fantasies to and often encourage them to do so; You have Wilbur and Tommy and others who have a bit more charisma, but are also relatively attractive looking; hell, you can have someone who doesn't show much of their face like Ranboo or Techno, and fans will still find a way to fetishize them

The content and novelty of their Minecraft videos are only secondary to their innate appeal and what appeal their fans project on them in their heads. It's something that I believe Clayton is very much aware of and weaponizes whenever he can.
It's not a coincidence that George is the only one of the Dream Team that seems to regularly show his face on streams and videos while Dream obv doesn't and Sapnap only does occasionally.
 
It's not a coincidence that George is the only one of the Dream Team that seems to regularly show his face on streams and videos while Dream obv doesn't and Sapnap only does occasionally.
Realistically, all Dream needs to do is get a funky looking mask and build some muscle mass. I mean it works for this guy
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Considering getting in shape when you have money is one of the easiest fucking things in the world, dude can build himself up as another faceless swole creator like Sung.
 
Streamy’s are a content creator award ceremony. Basically the Oscars for internet creators.
The Streamys just like it's counterpart is a circle jerk of shiny content creators just like the Oscars, except more shit. Every content creator they present is probably on YouTube's payroll or supported by YouTube's higher ups, let's be honest.
 
Realistically, all Dream needs to do is get a funky looking mask and build some muscle mass. I mean it works for this guy
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Considering getting in shape when you have money is one of the easiest fucking things in the world, dude can build himself up as another faceless swole creator like Sung.
Unfortunately Dream saddled himself with one of the least appealing mask designs possible already. Even if he was jacked as hell the best he could do is look like No-Face
 
Unfortunately Dream saddled himself with one of the least appealing mask designs possible already. Even if he was jacked as hell the best he could do is look like No-Face
Judging by the 2016 photo and the tier of deathfat Clay is now based on the fact he edits out his reflection on photos, he lacks intelligence and willpower to try something.
 
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Judging by the 2016 photo and the tier of deathfat Clay is now based onthe fact he edits out his reflection on photos, he lacks intelligence and willpower to try something.
Yeah he's clearly not confident in his looks or something is up that he goes to such great lengths to hide the truth. I wouldn't be surprised if he's actively trying to meet the image he has fostered with his fans, but it's possible his natural build is too manly at this point to even reach that ideal. I mean all the fanart I see is basically the exact same teenage boy build that most guys grow out of in their 20s, some even sooner. Clay is a whale so it's hard to say say what his natural build is, but I've wondered if he has lost weight and realized he can never look like the Dream in any of the fanart.

Or he's still very much obese and just riding things out with the intent to never reveal himself, which would mean blatantly lying about meetups.
 
Shit like this makes me optimistic because, for a majority of these fans, their obsessive followings of things are really a phase in their life, and for the most part, they grow out of it, find their center, and learn to laugh at how cringey they were back then.
Gotta keep in mind that basically everyone who got introduced to the smartphones, especially younger people, have an unbelievably short attention span. I'm sure soon enough these kids are gonna find some other MC Youtuber or another niche creator they can obsess over within the next couple weeks. After all, MCYT especially is filled with replaceable creators who are carbon clones based on content and "humor".
This isn't to say his channel is gonna die, because I don't think it will for a very long time. There are plenty of people who watch Dreams content and don't use Twitter and just want some Fast Food content. Hell, I'd say that would be the best case scenario for Dream, to keep getting views and have his shitty fanbase fuck off to someone else. Unfortunately, it would definitely slow down his lolcowdom, as his obsessive and insane fans will probably move on to some other creator.
 
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