RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Jokes on you man that’s why I like it. The jankiness of it all is part of the appeal. Literally the only thing that would make me stop watching is if I felt it had become competent.

It really is an MST3K show. I watch it because I need trash in my life.

 

[Random Dyke]

No joke, a mobile tower defense waifu game had a much better written version of WF compared to RWBY. Hell, they even had the very similar origin story, a protest movement meant to remove oppression and normalize their people in society but overtime went militant and self destructive once the main story takes place.

I smell Arknights

It would be so easy to actually make the racism believable too.

I personally wish they went with this:

Grimm are a very close relative to the Faunus species (animal features) so humans fear that the Faunus will turn on them and destroy everything just like the Grimm. Sort of like "Yeah, my friend wouldn't hurt a fly, but who's to say there isn't a little gene in him that will make him become evil?" The humans initially throw Faunus in cages and hide them away from civilization for their safety, but they soon think that they could destroy the "bad gene" in Faunus by consistently beating them, forcing them to work to their limits, starving them, and otherwise showing them that they are inferior and will never triumph over humans.

That's the simplest fucking thing they could of come up with. It wouldn't work at all for their racism "allegory" though since POC aren't a separate species from white people. If they wanted a realistic allegory, they should've just made everybody a Faunus and made a certain group be the victim of racism (ex. Dog)

Like, take Dragon Age Origins for instance. Why is there so much animosity between Humans and Elves?

That reminds me of Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim's Snow Elves/Ancient Falmer.

The Snow Elves were the very first race of Mer to exist in Skyrim up until the Atmorans (men) arrived. The Atmorans basically slaughtered and enslaved Snow Elves (they constructed Windhelm), and it got to a point where they had no choice but to try to seek refuge underground where their sibling race (the Dwemer) resided. Those who fled underground, "The Betrayed", were allowed to under the condition that they only consumed toxic fungi. Eventually, they became slaves to the Dwemer. They were even tortured. Through hundreds of years of devolution, there is only one Snow Elf left (Gelebor); any others are now Falmer, a race of blind, goblin-like creatures who are extremely isolated and aggressive.

Here's the full lore page here if you'd like a better explanation. TES has some godly lore.

 

[Juan's Sombrero]

I smell Arknights

I personally wish they went with this:

Grimm are a very close relative to the Faunus species (animal features) so humans fear that the Faunus will turn on them and destroy everything just like the Grimm. Sort of like "Yeah, my friend wouldn't hurt a fly, but who's to say there isn't a little gene in him that will make him become evil?" The humans initially throw Faunus in cages and hide them away from civilization for their safety, but they soon think that they could destroy the "bad gene" in Faunus by consistently beating them, forcing them to work to their limits, starving them, and otherwise showing them that they are inferior and will never triumph over humans.

That's the simplest fucking thing they could of come up with. It wouldn't work at all for their racism "allegory" though since POC aren't a separate species from white people. If they wanted a realistic allegory, they should've just made everybody a Faunus and made a certain group be the victim of racism (ex. Dog)

That reminds me of Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim's Snow Elves/Ancient Falmer.

The Snow Elves were the very first race of Mer to exist in Skyrim up until the Atmorans (men) arrived. The Atmorans basically slaughtered and enslaved Snow Elves (they constructed Windhelm), and it got to a point where they had no choice but to try to seek refuge underground where their sibling race (the Dwemer) resided. Those who fled underground, "The Betrayed", were allowed to under the condition that they only consumed toxic fungi. Eventually, they became slaves to the Dwemer. They were even tortured. Through hundreds of years of devolution, there is only one Snow Elf left (Gelebor); any others are now Falmer, a race of blind, goblin-like creatures who are extremely isolated and aggressive.

Here's the full lore page here if you'd like a better explanation. TES has some godly lore.

Have you at least read "The Night of Tears" as to why the Mer came to be hated by humans? That could have happened and gave birth to the hatred and prejudice against Faunus if they bothered to incorporate something similar to the lore, but no, that's too gray. Everything has to be childishly simple for these fools.

 

[BroccoliBrain]

Have you at least read "The Night of Tears" as to why the Mer came to be hated by humans?

And those were just Snow Elves. Each Elven civilisation is distinct and sometimes they don't even get along with each other and we'll never see that amount of nuance in the Faunus. Imagine if the Faunus had internal divides like they would logically do so, like if friction exists between which Faunus resemble predators or prey, and I say resemble because they don't seem to act animalistic at all.

That's the simplest fucking thing they could of come up with. It wouldn't work at all for their racism "allegory" though since POC aren't a separate species from white people. If they wanted a realistic allegory, they should've just made everybody a Faunus and made a certain group be the victim of racism (ex. Dog)

I thought about this and concluded you don't even need to change the Faunus to make racism work, they just need to stop being so fucking bland and show the racism. Real life human races aren't so exotically different from one another (you'd need some background to know, say, Asians are more susceptible to diabetes than Europeans), we only outwardly differ in colour and hair/eye shape. Yet we are incredibly tribalistic and if we don't like another group we'll go out of our way to prove they're inferior. Cracks me up when I think about this old-timey poster claiming the Irish weren't true whites because they had a fucking negroid skull shape and that they were often just as unintelligent and hot-tempered as Africans.

Out there somewhere in Menagerie is an actual sheboon.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

And those were just Snow Elves. Each Elven civilisation is distinct and sometimes they don't even get along with each other and we'll never see that amount of nuance in the Faunus. Imagine if the Faunus had internal divides like they would logically do so, like if friction exists between which Faunus resemble predators or prey, and I say resemble because they don't seem to act animalistic at all.

Honest to god shit like this is why I encourage people not to add other races/species to their fantasy worlds, you could do all this with humans and have it be equally diverse. Of course this makes the racism story more uncomfortable, but that's kind of the point of a racism story isn't it?

 

[Decepticon Spy]

I smell Arknights

The story is monologue galore but my lord if it isn't basically the Faunus Subplot done right. (Fuck Episodes 2 and 3 though, Misha arc is objectively hot garbage. The fact that Mephisto is more sympathetic than the Skullshatterer siblings really proves it.)

Honest to god shit like this is why I encourage people not to add other races/species to their fantasy worlds, you could do all this with humans and have it be equally diverse. Of course this makes the racism story more uncomfortable, but that's kind of the point of a racism story isn't it?

I think that kinda sums up the problem with fantasy races perfectly. Writers specially with amateurs just fall in this pit where the races are just there to be some sort of checkmark for their work to qualify as fantasy. The Elves are just the race supremacists, the dwarves are just the filthy gold-hoarding drunks, the humans are just there being dumb and ignorant, and the orcs are just another subversion of the evil race trope. They don't contribute with the worldbuilding and can be pretty much be replaced by factions on how bland they are.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I think that kinda sums up the problem with fantasy races perfectly. Writers specially with amateurs just fall in this pit where the races are just there to be some sort of checkmark for their work to qualify as fantasy. The Elves are just the race supremacists, the dwarves are just the filthy gold-hoarding drunks, the humans are just there being dumb and ignorant, and the orcs are just another subversion of the evil race trope. They don't contribute with the worldbuilding and can be pretty much be replaced by factions on how bland they are.

Exactly, a race should never be a monoculture, if you're going to do that then just make everyone the same race and have different bands/tribes/countries/whatever.

 

[Random Dyke]

Have you at least read "The Night of Tears" as to why the Mer came to be hated by humans?

With so many books in Skyrim (307 that provide lore) it's difficult to know of every single piece of lore unless you dedicate hours to study it. I noticed the name of that event as I was doing research for my post, but I didn't understand what it really was and skimmed past it. I just read it and damn... Skyrim's history is messy as hell.

I think that kinda sums up the problem with fantasy races perfectly. Writers specially with amateurs just fall in this pit where the races are just there to be some sort of checkmark for their work to qualify as fantasy. The Elves are just the race supremacists, the dwarves are just the filthy gold-hoarding drunks, the humans are just there being dumb and ignorant, and the orcs are just another subversion of the evil race trope. They don't contribute with the worldbuilding and can be pretty much be replaced by factions on how bland they are.

I appreciate Skyrim's attempts, but I hope they can fix this in TES:VI. I play as a Khajiit every time and it infuriates me how every single character in Tamriel calls me a thieving, Skooma-worshipping, homeless cat. You would think you wouldn't receive the same comments over and over again, especially since you are the damn Dragonborn, but the dialogue gets extremely old very fast.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

With so many books in Skyrim (307 that provide lore) it's difficult to know of every single piece of lore unless you dedicate hours to study it. I noticed the name of that event as I was doing research for my post, but I didn't understand what it really was and skimmed past it. I just read it and damn... Skyrim's history is messy as hell.

I appreciate Skyrim's attempts, but I hope they can fix this in TES:VI. I play as a Khajiit every time and it infuriates me how every single character in Tamriel calls me a thieving, Skooma-worshipping, homeless cat. You would think you wouldn't receive the same comments over and over again, especially since you are the damn Dragonborn, but the dialogue gets extremely old very fast.

Now, now, you're not a Khajiit, Skyrim only recognises you as Nord and non-Nord.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Stop playing as the furry freakshit race.
Play as a human.
Pick up a greatsword and heavy armor.
Scream really loud at your enemies.
Be a man.

 

[No One of Note]

A friend convinced me to watch Vol 1 & 2, is it worth continuing from there since Monty died? I kind of like reading about the trainwreck that this show is but is it worth actually putting in any time into watching it for the shitshow behind the scenes?

 

[Random Internet Person]

A friend convinced me to watch Vol 1 & 2, is it worth continuing from there since Monty died? I kind of like reading about the trainwreck that this show is but is it worth actually putting in any time into watching it for the shitshow behind the scenes?

How high is your tolerance for shit?

 

[Gensou Hadou]

A friend convinced me to watch Vol 1 & 2, is it worth continuing from there since Monty died? I kind of like reading about the trainwreck that this show is but is it worth actually putting in any time into watching it for the shitshow behind the scenes?

No. You're better off reading about it instead. Even if you go in knowing it's shit, you're going to get frustrated by, for lack of a better way to word it, how the shit is executed.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

A friend convinced me to watch Vol 1 & 2, is it worth continuing from there since Monty died? I kind of like reading about the trainwreck that this show is but is it worth actually putting in any time into watching it for the shitshow behind the scenes?

Do you like MST3K/BoTW? If you do then do it, because RWBY was made for those shows, it's hilariously bad. If you can't tolerate bullshit or you have better things to do with your time then don't watch it.

 

[Random Dyke]

Now, now, you're not a Khajiit, Skyrim only recognises you as Nord and non-Nord.

True LOL

Stop playing as the furry freakshit race.
Play as a human.
Pick up a greatsword and heavy armor.
Scream really loud at your enemies.
Be a man.

I personally excel in Heavy Armor, Archery, Sneak, Lockpicking, and Block. I like to knock out enemies from afar unless I need to get close to them.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I personally excel in Heavy Armor, Archery, Sneak, Lockpicking, and Block. I like to knock out enemies from afar unless I need to get close to them.
I just think the humans are bland imo. I hope TES can make everybody not look like carbon copies of one another in the next installment... only then will I consider playing as a human.

TES lore is even cooler if you read some of the super trippy shit that Kirkbride has written since leaving Bethesda, but as far as Skyrim goes I just got sick of playing stealthy characters and casters, i only really find the game fun playing melee builds these days. And sure, you can argue that humans are bland but personally I've always loved the "default" race more than the exotic ones and being as your character is the Dragonborn being a Nord just makes the most sense.

 

[Random Dyke]

TES lore is even cooler if you read some of the super trippy shit that Kirkbride has written since leaving Bethesda, but as far as Skyrim goes I just got sick of playing stealthy characters and casters, i only really find the game fun playing melee builds these days. And sure, you can argue that humans are bland but personally I've always loved the "default" race more than the exotic ones and being as your character is the Dragonborn being a Nord just makes the most sense.

You have a point lol. It does make the most sense to be a Nord (the protag is literally a male Nord on the cover of the game).
I just love Sneak and Archery because you can play around with your environment, timing, and so on. I used to be really into One-Handed until I got sick of just running up to enemies. Killing Draugrs is way easier when you're far away from them and can take them out before they even see you, and getting through Dwemer ruins is super easy if you are able to simply sneak by the Falmer.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

You have a point lol. It does make the most sense to be a Nord (the protag is literally a male Nord on the cover of the game).
I just love Sneak and Archery because you can play around with your environment, timing, and so on. I used to be really into One-Handed until I got sick of just running up to enemies. Killing Draugrs is way easier when you're far away from them and can take them out before they even see you, and getting through Dwemer ruins is super easy if you are able to simply sneak by the Falmer.

My 100% run was a stealth archer, so I put 2000+ hours on that character alone. I'm well and truly sick of range and stealth.

 

[Random Dyke]

My 100% run was a stealth archer, so I put 2000+ hours on that character alone. I'm well and truly sick of range and stealth.

That's very admirable man. I've had 4-5 accounts throughout the years (almost a damn decade)

Back on the topic of RWBY... has anybody been able to access Episodes 2+ of RWBY Chibi Season 4?

 

[ChevroletBlackboard]

That's very admirable man. I've had 4-5 accounts throughout the years (almost a damn decade)

Back on the topic of RWBY... has anybody been able to access Episodes 2+ of RWBY Chibi Season 4?

I forgot Chibi came back.