Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

Did you forget the Rebel Game Jam where all the money went to her personal account and she spent it all on herself, or am I just being a dumbass again?

After that little stunt, I'm not sure why anyone who isn't in the "low standards and absolutely horny" category would support her. I know there's the whole Sunk Cost thing, but this was relatively early on. I think it was around the same time the GG Indie Game Jam was going on?
Stillllllllll waiting for a mainstream site to ask about the Rebel Game Jam or any website that wrote glorified PR for her Chuck Tingle Kickstarter to apologize to any readers they may have convinced to throw money into a pit. Probably gonna be waiting for a while.
 
I recall there being more than just the paper she wrote. She was very vocal about it on social media and there were rumours of more than that. Nintendo didn't fire her for quite a while after that was uncovered, it took at least a month if I remember correctly.

I don't know about you but I don't consider a pedophile going quietly into the night to be a happy ending. Weev had a point when he said it's better to have the SJWs screaming than quietly infiltrating and corrupting things unseen.
Minor correction here, Allison Rapp was fired BEFORE anyone on the internet seemed to know about her escort page. Nintendo announced she was fired for vaguely violating their policy on moonlighting, but told the press it was NOT due to any harassment campaign. That didn't stop her syncopants on Kotaku and Polygon from blaming Gamergate though

Kiwifarms found her escort page a week later. No idea who submitted it to Nintendo, but there's no indication her trolls knew about it before Nintendo did
 
Personally I didnt really consider alex's death on Quinn so much a the hysterical mob who went with it. Whatever happened between her and alex is ultimatly unknown but what isnt is the way a he got trial by popular opinion and was found guilty. P
She literally murdered him. She chopped his head off with a hatchet.
 
Whatever happened between her and alex is ultimatly unknown but what isnt is the way a he got trial by popular opinion and was found guilty.
This is true, but she led the mob. She made the accusations. And coming from The Zoe Quinn, doubting her would immediately make you an evil alt-right chud manbaby GamerGater. She may be too toxic for employment by anyone other than the lowest of the low, but sure as sunshine, the moment her name, or Anita's, comes up, no matter what they say, any criticism is immediately declared null and void by that one chunk of the population that thinks GamerGate led to Trump.

They can be factually wrong, like Anita bitching about The Mandalorian. There can be, like in the case of Quinn, months worth of tweets, podcast appearances, videos and other commentary from the time in question that directly contradicts what she accused Alec of doing, all carefully recorded in this very thread. But if you're part of that leftist space - whether it be involved with games, journalism, comics, writing, definitely any form of slacktivism - none of that is relevant, because you have to believe Zoe in public, and to do otherwise is social suicide and will severely hamper your career.

I do think people forget how much the mob, and especially the weasels who worked with him on Night In the Woods who couldn't wait to dump him from their source of income and say how much of a monster he was, are more responsible in the end. People also forget that this was after a few hours of other men in indie gaming, including her ex, Alex Lifschitz, getting metoo'd, with what seemed an intentionally coordinated attack on numerous men that the women involved wanted to eject from the profession - a process that was unceremoniously swept under the rug when Alec killed himself.

But at the end of the day it was Zoe who made up the lies (and it was undoubtedly mostly if not entirely lies, exaggerations and one-sided retellings to paint her as the eternal victim) that led the mob. I think there's a few more people who should have 'OK, murderer' follow them around for the rest of their lives along with Zoe, but she's very, very deserving of having his suicide permanently associated with her.

Plus, you'd think she'd be proud. She told numerous people, including her softcore porn photographer, that she stabbed/murdered a man who tried to rape her. Driving the man who abused her to suicide would, you think, be a badge of honour if that's the kind of person you are, or pretending to be.
 
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I didn't play a Night in the Woods because he was leaning into modern politics but still, he was talented
I haven't completely gotten through the game, but I would make the argument that the modern political messaging is extremely shallow and surface level. Basically, it's easy to ignore, it feels very tacked on.
From what I've seen so far, (and I think? someone mention Mae bring a good stand in for Alec a few hundred pages back) Night in the Woods, focus' more so on the characters and their emotional states. There are a fair few lines in there that do hit home pretty hard, and considering the other "devs" if we can even call em that, and their shitty pity me story after Alec killed himself, I doubt they had the tact, let alone the talent to write most of those line.
Plus, you'd think she'd be proud. She told numerous people, including her softcore porn photographer, that she stabbed/murdered a man who tried to rape her. Driving the man who abused her to suicide would, you think, be a badge of honour if that's the kind of person you are, or pretending to be.
I think the big difference here, is a name and a cold body. She claim to have bad ass killed whichever nameless "harasser" she wants and no one can contradict her with 100% certainty (because she is an unstable BPD Case) But Alec was a mentally unstable, but generally positive dude who created good things and tried to take loser like his NitW hanger ons, and turn them into functional devs. He had talent, he put his money where his mouth was and he was apparently trying to get better, and than the hammer of Zoe Quinn came and knocked the stool from under him before he could step off.

Justifiable Badass Girl Power TM murder is what Zoe wants, victim without being a victim.
Driving a good person to Suicide with proven lies, makes her the bad guy and as we've seen she lost that battle, she couldn't spin it positively and memory holed it.
 
This is true, but she led the mob. She made the accusations. And coming from The Zoe Quinn, doubting her would immediately make you an evil alt-right chud manbaby GamerGater. She may be too toxic for employment by anyone other than the lowest of the low, but sure as sunshine, the moment her name, or Anita's, comes up, no matter what they say, any criticism is immediately declared null and void by that one chunk of the population that thinks GamerGate led to Trump.

They can be factually wrong, like Anita bitching about The Mandalorian. There can be, like in the case of Quinn, months worth of tweets, podcast appearances, videos and other commentary from the time in question that directly contradicts what she accused Alec of doing, all carefully recorded in this very thread. But if you're part of that leftist space - whether it be involved with games, journalism, comics, writing, definitely any form of slacktivism - none of that is relevant, because you have to believe Zoe in public, and to do otherwise is social suicide and will severely hamper your career.

I do think people forget how much the mob, and especially the weasels who worked with him on Night In the Woods who couldn't wait to dump him from their source of income and say how much of a monster he was, are more responsible in the end. People also forget that this was after a few hours of other men in indie gaming, including her ex, Alex Lifschitz, getting metoo'd, with what seemed an intentionally coordinated attack on numerous men that the women involved wanted to eject from the profession - a process that was unceremoniously swept under the rug when Alec killed himself.

But at the end of the day it was Zoe who made up the lies (and it was undoubtedly mostly if not entirely lies, exaggerations and one-sided retellings to paint her as the eternal victim) that led the mob. I think there's a few more people who should have 'OK, murderer' follow them around for the rest of their lives along with Zoe, but she's very, very deserving of having his suicide permanently associated with her.

Plus, you'd think she'd be proud. She told numerous people, including her softcore porn photographer, that she stabbed/murdered a man who tried to rape her. Driving the man who abused her to suicide would, you think, be a badge of honour if that's the kind of person you are, or pretending to be.

Scott Benson is even more complicit than Zoe. Zoe is an evil, pathological lying cunt, but Scott saw the opportunity to both destroy and steal from the guy who single-handedly made his career, and went all-in on it with no hesitation or remorse.

There's no trace of humanity in Scott's soulless skin-husk.
 
Scott Benson is even more complicit than Zoe. Zoe is an evil, pathological lying cunt, but Scott saw the opportunity to both destroy and steal from the guy who single-handedly made his career, and went all-in on it with no hesitation or remorse.

There's no trace of humanity in Scott's soulless skin-husk.
I was recently wondering whatever happened to those two chucklefucks that worked with him and threw him under the bus for cash and prizes. And Scott and his fat ass wife or whatever need the ok murderer treatment too. I hoped they got hit by a bus a week later but well.
 
She did get into Tabletop Gaming by joining forces with fellow lolcow Daniel Fox, so she must be fucking someone.

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It's a dark fantasy campaign setting for the Zweihander RPG. Itself a clone of Warhammer Fantasy. Zoe repeats her habit of showing up a year late for every popular trend. I don't think she will do anything meaningful here, but if this game takes off expect Zoe to take full credit.

Zoe has a delusional stalker called Jake "The Gnome " Alley who considers himself a serous game designer. Jake's Sanity has been on the downslope for some time and I've been wondering if he knows about this project. Seeing Zoe getting opportunities that he feels entitled to must twist his beard. If this takes off and Zoe starts getting traction in the TTRPG scene the meltdown will be spectacular.
Good ol' Daniel. The guy constantly tries to get people to share his shitty RPG so he can DMCA threads. It's gotten to the point people know it's obviously him. He's also really bad at trolling /tg threads. Zweihander was never a popular trend because Daniel killed it with the RPG community before it could get popular.

It's hard to understate how much of a prick Dan is.
Not really, there's a reason why his book is one of the "do not share" books.
 
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I haven't completely gotten through the game, but I would make the argument that the modern political messaging is extremely shallow and surface level. Basically, it's easy to ignore, it feels very tacked on.
It took me a while to understand why "Night in the Woods" can be considered good. I admit it is an acquired taste.

"Night in the Woods" is bloated (too many writers) and the political messaging is definitely tacked on, but it is appropriate in a certain way.

Most people don't realize Mae is a complete fuck-up on the fast track to nowhere and is not SUPPOSED to be taken as an ideal protagonist. A college dropout full of ultra-left wing ideas with a mental disorder, incapable of holding a job, in a dying town with loving yet rapidly aging parents who are about to lose their mortgaged house, her friends actually working to improve their lives and move on, leaving her behind. Her "fuck cops" and "do crimes" monologues only highlight her immaturity and refusal to grow up. Kudos to Alec for writing a deeply flawed and yet sufficiantly charismatic character to make me feel for her.

The entire "Night in the Woods" is Mae's last hurrah, the hauntingly touching final autumn where she can still desperately cling to the happy place that is her teenage years and childhood before real life hits her like a freight train. Her parents are broke and will soon die, her friends will abandon her and the entire Universe (as clearly stated by God-Beast himself) simply does not care.

If Mae is Alec's self-insert protagonist, his suicide makes frighteningly much more sense. The man was screaming for help.

"At the end of everything, hold on to anything". Yeah...

Now compare it to "Goddess Mode". The creative bankruptcy will never be more apparent.
 
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She may be too toxic for employment by anyone other than the lowest of the low, but sure as sunshine, the moment her name, or Anita's, comes up, no matter what they say, any criticism is immediately declared null and void by that one chunk of the population that thinks GamerGate led to Trump.
If that's true, though, they need to quit talking shit about us, because we can do it again. Do they want Double Trump? Because we can do it.
There's no trace of humanity in Scott's soulless skin-husk.
Imagine trusting an absolutely subhuman snake like Scott Benson. What a literal demon in human form. He is the one who should have died.
 
People often talk about Alec and his work on Night in the Woods, but I don't think he gets enough credit for a game he helped make much earlier called "I'm O.K." That game epitomizes a time when the video games industry united against external threats instead of inviting them in and siding with them. And unlike a certain depression-oriented "game" that was also released for free, "I'm O.K." resulted in actual charitable action.

Nearly two decades ago, anti-video-game lawyer Jack Thompson was painting gamers as trained murderers and making the video game industry look like a terrorist organization. His main goal was just to keep mature games out of the hands of children, but he didn't care how bad he made video games or gamers look in the process.

During one interview, he encouraged developers to make a video game where a disgruntled man named "Osaki Kim" goes on a hate-filled shooting rampage that takes him through E3 and thinly-veiled effigies of developers like Rockstar and Activision, all the while killing game developers. And if some developer would take that dare, he would donate $10,000 to a charity of their choice.

Well, a group of developers DID take up that dare, including Alec Holowca, and made the game exactly to his specifications. It was a fairly by-the-numbers sidescroller, but it wasn't half bad. When presented with this game, Jack Thompson scoffed and said, "What, you actually took me seriously? I was joking!" As a gesture to truly show what a liar Thompson was, the Penny Arcade guys donated $10,000 to a charity in his name.

I like the story because it shows how unified gaming culture used to be. Gamers, developers, and journalists alike all saw Jack Thompson as a cancer and opposed him, ultimately protecting their hobby. It wasn't many years later that feminists and troons started worming their way into the culture. Instead of driving them out, journalists embraced them, developers kowtowed, and the gaming community itself was fractured.
 
And unlike a certain depression-oriented "game" that was also released for free, "I'm O.K." resulted in actual charitable action.
I had completely forgotten about that incident. Thanks for the history lesson.

Yes, yes, talk of horseshoe theory and Overton windows are memes used by twelve-year-olds wanting to sound smart, but when you have genderblobs with hammer-and-sickles in their bio with the same goals, much the same rhetoric, and same willingness to outright lie and smear to attain their goal as a religious rightoid from two decades ago, maybe there's something to those memes.
 
At this point I'm sure the major companies surely want nothing to do with her. Her already questionable star has burned out leaving just a nutcase BPD husk behind. Let alone the fact that THE Zoe Quinn is unknown by 99% of the population and regarded with revulsion by the majority of the remaining 1%.
If a company wants a woke figurehead they're still gonna want to play it safe and hire someone that doesn't have so many skeletons in their closet.
Easier to just get an unknown black non-binary lesbian BIPOD.
 
when you have genderblobs with hammer-and-sickles in their bio with the same goals, much the same rhetoric, and same willingness to outright lie and smear to attain their goal as a religious rightoid from two decades ago, maybe there's something to those memes.

Many of them were once libertarian edgelord free speech absolutists back when that was the current thing. Moviebob, Zac Antolack, Howheels, Patrick Klepek and Bardfin are human tumbleweeds who changed their entire political outlook overnight without changing anything about themselves. Forty years ago they would be fundamentalist Christians. Ten years from now who knows. Horseshoe theory works because it's not just the same tactics, it's the same people.
 
Today's the first day of August. That means we're nearing the 7th Anniversary of the day Zoe Quinn fucked 5 journalist cucks for positive reviews that created GamerGate.

And what she's been doing on Twitter in the past month is mostly nothing but dog photos, unwanted indie nerd shit, and arm updates. I'll highlight some interesting ones.

Looking "cute" in glasses again.
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She now has a TikTok page.

"Eat your heart out nerd." Eat my ass, faker and murderer.
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Of course, the Activision Blizzard's sexual harassment claims has to make it about herself, but with indie cucks.
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Retweeting about victims of cyberstalking.
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That poor dog doesn't deserve this kind of harassment.
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Retweeting her accomplice.
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Today's the first day of August. That means we're nearing the 7th Anniversary of the day Zoe Quinn fucked 5 journalist cucks for positive reviews that created GamerGate.

And what she's been doing on Twitter in the past month is mostly nothing but dog photos, unwanted indie nerd shit, and arm updates. I'll highlight some interesting ones.

Looking "cute" in glasses again.
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She now has a TikTok page.

"Eat your heart out nerd." Eat my ass, faker and murderer.
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Of course, the Activision Blizzard's sexual harassment claims has to make it about herself, but with indie cucks.
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Retweeting about victims of cyberstalking.
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That poor dog doesn't deserve this kind of harassment.
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Retweeting her accomplice.
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I'm not 100% sure, but are her arms thinnning? Is she finally exercising or just rationing her intake I wonder? Probably the former since we know she has no impulse control.
 
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