Money September 2, 2015: Chris moves to Etsy, suggests "donating to book #11 and beyond"

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So does that mean if someone donates on the same day they lose their page? or is it that he will draw 1 page every day for that person? I doubt Christ will be that dedicated to doing this, also if he escaped Ebay do to the reviews he's gonna have a bad time at Etsy since they also have reviews.
 
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Interesting that he's finally, after six years, realized that a new Sonichu is really what could pique the interest of people willing to pay him. He actually dimly understands this idea we've been trying to explain to him for the better part of a decade.

Of course, I don't expect Chris to actually follow through, certainly not on any kind of schedule... I'm just flabbergasted he finally understands, if even slightly.
 
Eh, the medallions are pretty legitimate sales for him. It's not counter to artistic expression to exploit notoriety.
Oh I don't disagree. The medallions and autographs are really the only legitimate sales because he actually makes money on them. I also don't take issue with him exploiting his notoriety for sales. If people are dumb enough to buy, why not cash in?

My point is that Chris thinks this is a legitimate job and I call bullshit on that. He simply doesn't make enough money on this to call it a job. It's a hobby at best. Not a bad one, but it's not a job.
 
I may be reverselogging here, but CWC making money of his art while Nookie Bear doesn't gives me some sweet fuzziewuzzies.

Also, this whole "Sonichu-Microbusiness-Saga" (similarly to many others of intarwebz profit) reminds one of:

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"No—is that so? Oh come, now—lemme just try. Only just a little—I'd let you, if you was me, Tom."

"Ben, I'd like to, honest injun; but Aunt Polly—well, Jim wanted to do it, but she wouldn't let him; Sid wanted to do it, and she wouldn't let Sid. Now don't you see how I'm fixed? If you was to tackle this fence and anything was to happen to it—"

"Oh, shucks, I'll be just as careful. Now lemme try. Say—I'll give you the core of my apple."

"Well, here—No, Ben, now don't. I'm afeard—"

"I'll give you all of it!"

Tom gave up the brush with reluctance in his face, but alacrity in his heart. And while the late steamer Big Missouri worked and sweated in the sun, the retired artist sat on a barrel in the shade close by, dangled his legs, munched his apple, and planned the slaughter of more innocents. There was no lack of material; boys happened along every little while; they came to jeer, but remained to whitewash. By the time Ben was fagged out, Tom had traded the next chance to Billy Fisher for a kite, in good repair; and when he played out, Johnny Miller bought in for a dead rat and a string to swing it with—and so on, and so on, hour after hour. And when the middle of the afternoon came, from being a poor poverty-stricken boy in the morning, Tom was literally rolling in wealth. He had besides the things before mentioned, twelve marbles, part of a jews-harp, a piece of blue bottle-glass to look through, a spool cannon, a key that wouldn't unlock anything, a fragment of chalk, a glass stopper of a decanter, a tin soldier, a couple of tadpoles, six fire-crackers, a kitten with only one eye, a brass door-knob, a dog-collar—but no dog—the handle of a knife, four pieces of orange-peel, and a dilapidated old window sash.

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He had had a nice, good, idle time all the while—plenty of company—and the fence had three coats of whitewash on it! If he hadn't run out of whitewash he would have bankrupted every boy in the village.

Tom said to himself that it was not such a hollow world, after all. He had discovered a great law of human action, without knowing it—namely, that in order to make a man or a boy covet a thing, it is only necessary to make the thing difficult to attain. If he had been a great and wise philosopher, like the writer of this book, he would now have comprehended that Work consists of whatever a body is obliged to do, and that Play consists of whatever a body is not obliged to do. And this would help him to understand why constructing artificial flowers or performing on a tread-mill is work, while rolling ten-pins or climbing Mont Blanc is only amusement. There are wealthy gentlemen in England who drive four-horse passenger-coaches twenty or thirty miles on a daily line, in the summer, because the privilege costs them considerable money; but if they were offered wages for the service, that would turn it into work and then they would resign.

The boy mused awhile over the substantial change which had taken place in his worldly circumstances, and then wended toward headquarters to report.
 
Hey, he's actually making money off of Sonichu! (maybe, after all, people have to buy it first)
In a way, I just hope this kinda goes well for him and that he draws more comics. It would be interesting, to say the least.

Gotta agree with @DykesDykesChina too. Chris is making money with his art AND actually enjoys doing so too, since Sonichu is really important to him. Dobbo could learn a thing or two from Chris.
 
So, if I just give him tenbux, he'll poop out a drawing?

Why pay 100? Why pay 50?

I am proud that OPL is inching closer to "getting it" though.
 
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My proverbial two cents on this tends to fit in with what everyone else is saying; on one hand Chris has seemingly conceded and realized that in order to bring in a little extra money a new comic in the right approach but I have to agree with the people who say it's risky paying into something that has no real guarantee attached to it. @AnOminous has an extremely valid point, however; Patreon would have been the better choice if he was pushing for the comic because that way the only chance of him earning anything at all is actually producing something in the first place. If even a hundred of us all donated a dollar to it and Chris managed to shit out a page a week that's 400$ at the end of the month before Patreon takes their cut.
 
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I wish one of his gal pals (read: trolls) would get in contact with him and give him advice on how to run a business. I do want more Sonichu but I don't like the idea of Chris taking advantage of people.

I really doubt "quality" will be an issue, if he holds up his end of the bargain. The only way Sonichu could be worse is if Chris tried to make it dumb on purpose. Fortunately, he's too proud to do that. Let the autism flow.
 
I think his main mistake was not controlling the number. He would find it a lot less stressful if he planned out a 20 page comic and then solicited 20 donations. It might also help his sales if he were more specific like that. The reaction seems to be that people don't want to give him $10 with so few guarantees from him.
The difficulty is that Chris never planned Sonichu out - he'd just let the story go wherever he wanted it to at that point, cramming as many panels as he could into a page. It would be impossible for him to say how many pages Issue 11 would have.

Although it might be quite amusing to see him commit to 20 pages and then start panicking when he gets to page 18 and realises Robbie hasn't left the mall.
 
I personally don't think #11 getting made this way is going to yield anything on the true level of what made the original issues so god awfully good - namely, CWC's attempt to deal with the realities of the world on his own terms. The comics were to him really the only place where he stood more than a non-existent chance of winning against people who constantly played him like a fiddle online and people who "trolled" him in real life simply by doing their jobs (I.E. Manajerks, Walsh, etc.). It was how his constant desire to "get back" at people without any threat of reprecussion manifested in those scribbles and drove the creation of the pages, not because he needed fucking toy money like he evidently does now.
 
Hope he doesn't learn about Patreon...
idk as far as i know (someone can correct me if im wrong) but patreon works on the honer system if people donated to you they expect you to release content in a timely fashion i dont think chris "i may think about drawing eps 11 if you donated x amount of dollars" thing would work very well on patreon
 
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I personally don't think #11 getting made this way is going to yield anything on the true level of what made the original issues so god awfully good - namely, CWC's attempt to deal with the realities of the world on his own terms. The comics were to him really the only place where he stood more than a non-existent chance of winning against people who constantly played him like a fiddle online and people who "trolled" him in real life simply by doing their jobs (I.E. Manajerks, Walsh, etc.). It was how his constant desire to "get back" at people without any threat of reprecussion manifested in those scribbles and drove the creation of the pages, not because he needed fucking toy money like he evidently does now.

You forget that Chris also made changes to his comic in the vain hope of obtaining china. He always wanted money and fame for Sonichu.
 
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I don't like the idea of Chris taking advantage of people..
I hate saying people deserve [bad thing] to happen to them, but being taken advantage of financially financially by Chris takes some next-level :eli:.
None of his products are for usage, they're fun mementos of an internet weirdo,the art equivalent of a street bum washing your windshield with a dirty rag at stoplights. If you give him money it's basically a charity and your reward is the warm feeling you get for supporting him. (Edit : that doesn't mean you shouldn't hold him to a certain quality standard but you've seen his standard quality, you should know what you're getting with that money)

I personally don't think #11 getting made this way is going to yield anything on the true level of what made the original issues so god awfully good - namely, CWC's attempt to deal with the realities of the world on his own terms.
This. Chris is too content with his current life to produce 'good' Sonichu.
I'm still eager to see what he puts out.
 
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I personally don't agree with donating money to Chris when it comes to him making new comic pages because as other people have said in this thread already there is nothing to say that Chris actually will use the money to draw Sonichu Eleven.

If people want to give Chris essentially free money then of course that's their choice but try to remember that Chris does not have a good track record with sensible spending. Ignoring the video games, Lego and his mother's random impulse buys of furniture she doesn't need that he consistently wastes his tugboat on don't forget that even Bob's inheritance was basically used on expensive fees for Rob Bell to help him in a vendetta he couldn't win...

If I had money to burn I'd much rather use it to pay for something more substantial like a medallion or of course a donation for the Cwcki but it'll be interesting to see how this Etsy venture works out for Chris.
 
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I personally don't think #11 getting made this way is going to yield anything on the true level of what made the original issues so god awfully good - namely, CWC's attempt to deal with the realities of the world on his own terms. The comics were to him really the only place where he stood more than a non-existent chance of winning against people who constantly played him like a fiddle online and people who "trolled" him in real life simply by doing their jobs (I.E. Manajerks, Walsh, etc.). It was how his constant desire to "get back" at people without any threat of reprecussion manifested in those scribbles and drove the creation of the pages, not because he needed fucking toy money like he evidently does now.
While I think that trolls fucking with the comic were the best parts of Sonichu, I think that the comic can still be delightfully bizarre even if happy, content Chris is writing it. Date Ed had nothing to do with attacking trolls and it still managed to be one of the more insane comics. Moreover, Chris's persecution complex is so intense that he's able to conjure a whole host of stressors and enemies from thin air. If Chris needs new enemies to fight, he'll find them.

The biggest worry is that Chris will write more Sonichu comics that are like the pre-Wes Iseli comics. That is, they'd be cliched cartoon adventures with no hints of the inner madness of our auteur. If Sonichu is more about, say, lesbian-Souled Chris and his LGBT hedgehog pals fighting off the hordes of brute males who want to rape nubile women, that'd definitely be worth reading and even paying for.
 
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