General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[DrStupid]

someone left the PC discord and ppl started voicing their opinions there. nothing too out of the ordinary tho.

Spoiler: screens

Edit: update

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Sounds like Pippa may have pushed too hard too fast, speaking as one on the outside of all this. I’m not in full agreement with what she said, especially about IRYS, but it sucks to hear she was so down.

But as a means to cheer things up.

 

[Lurker Throwaway]

Rosemi seems to have been Ria of Tsunderia. =
Glad to see her back.

 

[Scale Smerch]

Most indies are horrifically boring; I should know, I'm one of them. Every once in a while you run into a diamond in the rough but it seems the ones that gain a footing are those who are more "chaotic" which to me looks like "behaving like a spazzy child" since just sitting down and enjoying something while being relaxing and inviting doesn't make you popular. You gotta overexaggerate everything. Without looking at those who did not have a following previously such as Nux, one big name in the indie scene is Papi. I cannot stand watching him for any length of time because he is too energetic on camera and much prefer to spend my time supporting my more low-key friends. One point in Cover's favor is that they actually have a very diverse lineup with that. If everyone were Kiara or Haachama it would be unbearable. If everyone were Ina it would be boring as fuck.

Pretty much this, and it isn't limited to chubas either. Streaming in general these days is a shark pit, you have a huge amount of competition, everyone is looking for an edge, and the internet has a good habit of taking any wrong move (whether actually wrong or imagined) and blowing it out of proportion. Chaos and exaggeration naturally thrives best under these conditions because it not only gets you noticed, but gets you noticed faster; no real shocker Pippa blew up here when she's fully embraced the chaos and given us something few - if any - other chubas have provided.

I also disagree with her premise regarding Cover. Are they overly seiso and conservative in approach? Definitely, but we also haven't seen Cover really crack down on its talent. Matsuri and Marine have gotten away with plenty over the months after all, and even Haato has yet to truly be smacked hard for her antics. There's definitely an argument Cover isn't being as open to stuff as they can be (thus Coco leaving and Haato going on hiatus), but it's not as rigid as some like to make out. A lot of the criticism does come across as envy given the numbers a talent can draw just by being a member of Hololive.

 

[Fate Fan]

Cover will allow a certain degrre of stuff but they cracked down on Haato when she was doing her horror vids even though people were eating them up.

 

[KingofNothing]

I'm trying really hard to figure out if this is a bit

https://twitter.com/rinkouashelia/status/1416497770202992640

 

[Thomas Talus]

Cover will allow a certain degrre of stuff but they cracked down on Haato when she was doing her horror vids even though people were eating them up.

IIRC there was a specific new rule that came down from Susan about depictions of suicide/self-harm that some of the imagery she was using was highly likely to be in violation of.

 

[Takodachi]

Non-English cover by IRyS, sorry poster who was throwing a fit.

not a fan of her version

 

[Fate Fan]

IIRC there was a specific new rule that came down from Susan about depictions of suicide/self-harm that some of the imagery she was using was highly likely to be in violation of.

Than I stand corrected and ill give Cover that one

 

[Azchan]

First time I see someone selling their Vtuber persona like this.
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That's pretty cool. Wonder how much she wants for a used Vtuber. Inb4 more than 2k.

she basically ended it sad and than when people started talking about management in the chat she came in and said "dont talk bad about management" and "everyone is trying their best"
It was sad to see and she was even more depressed in the end than when she started

Bruh this is sad. This is why I like indies so much. None of this holding back shit.




This poor girl started doing the Switch Fit thing and 15 minutes into the stream she is dying. Her model is pretty body accurate (check channel for her playing flute)

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[Takodachi]

i thought i'd feel better after verbally abusing some sprouts on FFXIV, but it didnt do it for me.
im still sad and its all management's fault

 

[Cubanodun]

So, Pippa has decided to use her alternate Twitch account to talk a little bit about hololive. She's extremely frustrated with Cover since Coco's graduation and spent good 5 minutes venting about how management's level of incompetence is just one step away from outright malevolent sabotage (she let out a loud, frustrated scream when the incident with antis getting promotion to mods was brought up). She compared Cover to Nintendo: a company that prioritizes safety above all else and as a result, releases products that are virtually identical to previous ones, because any innovation requires a risk they're not willing to take. She believes this will bite Cover's ass soon, because viewers are going to realize they're not gonna receive anything remotely new or original if things stay this way. IRyS is a perfect example; Pippa thinks she's basically a worse version of Ina but with zero personality and debuted at the beginning od July just to give the viewers something new to talk about.

Not gonna lie, listening to her comparing Cover and Nintendo made me think a bit and now I'm even more concerned, because if hololive really goes in that direction, then Haachama wilk probably the next one to quit.

She is half way correct except nintendo has been doing vidyagems since forever, innovations coming from them are weird and unexpected but when it happen its cool like Metroid Prime and BOTW but, those are very rare cases and rarely coming directly from them, the problem with Cover is that they keep insisting in following the IRL Idol way of doing things, they have to be reminded that they are literally STREAMERS that have Idol skills instead of pure idols, even freaking Yagoo did not know how to continue the brand considering Graduations are extremely rare, except if you are Holostar because screw you there will come a day

Granted we also have to consider how fucking draconian Susantube is regarding the feefees of the machine spirit that govern the servers, even when Haachama has bended the rules so hard that i would not be surprised if she end as CEO of Youtube someday

Does she think these girls go though RnD and produced in a factory?

Market research, thats how you got EN but still they need to diversify their repertorie, im going to repeat myself but Calli and Rikka had said again and again that Holopro need something like a DJ instead of outsourcing everything i dont even know what INNK Music does when almost all the songs are from some other producers/mixers

confirmed, no more ram ranch shenanigans, management bonked her.

Managers are glowies confirmed we cant have anything fun now

 

[Fate Fan]

Do we get a kiwi operated vtuber group before or after the church of Kiwi is established?

 

[Airless]

Does rrat-ing about an indie mean they've made it big?


I think her bab stream might've woken the hive

 

[Sanshain]

Does anyone have a copy of the deleted Pippa stream? I was only halfway through and already considered downloading it. Will be very mad if it's gone forever.

 

[SmugPeko]

Cover will allow a certain degrre of stuff but they cracked down on Haato when she was doing her horror vids even though people were eating them up.

Some people probably didn't know this here but around February PewDiePie cocomelons disstrack got nuked by Susantube so i really won't blame cover for haachama lore vods.

 

[akari-chann]

confirmed, no more ram ranch shenanigans, management bonked her.

More like whacked her with a steel chair, but damn isn't that unfortunate. Hopefully management backs off over time.

 

[LullerDerbyRollin]

Some people probably didn't know this here but around February PewDiePie cocomelons disstrack got nuked by Susantube so i really won't blame cover for haachama lore vods.

Oh shit, they hit that? Thought it was still up. Guess you're right.

 

[Girlboy69]

Would it not help if we like, made some sort or encouraging collage for Pippa like the other day? I mean, management having her on a short leash sucks but it's not Pippa's fault.

Assuming she doesn't lurk here.

 

[LullerDerbyRollin]

Would it not help if we like, made some sort or encouraging collage for Pippa like the other day? I mean, management having her on a short leash sucks but it's not Pippa's fault.

Assuming she doesn't lurk here.

I'm not really coherent enough to essay post something deep or meaningful, but I'd love to say to Pippa that she's fucking crazy and a breath of fresh air that I don't think anyone else has the energy or intelligence to pull off the things she does.