Valve introduces Steam Deck

[Seasoned News Reporter]

This system seems overrated and overhyped as shit already. Shit's way too fucking big too

Overhyped, I agree. Overrated though, disagree. There is a definitely a market for this but the biggest problem was always pricing. This is far more affordable compared to shit like the gpd win 3. Also unlike intel graphics there is much better support for amd drivers given they've been doing that for awhile. Besides, if the internal storage is replaceable like someones email screeenshot a few pages before suggest then there's no reason you couldn't just get the cheapest model & buy the bigger ssd yourself & install whatever on it.

 

[Belvedere]

Alright, now this is a question my retarded ass can actually fucking answer. So the problem with the anti-cheat on linux "despite it being gay as fuck & useless in alot of cases" is the fact that most run at ring 0 level on windows, aka kernel level. Basically anti-cheats like xigncode, eac, whatever the flying fuck valorant or destiny 2 uses, run at this level & have far higher permissions than the average administrator account on windows. Now linux has zero equivalent for this. I should mention eac is a bit of a weird one since wine devs have been playing around with experimental builds to get eac games working to some success.

So basically, anti-cheat can look inside your computers colon, you can't, & you can't stop it. Also one other wrench to throw in here is virtual machines. Gay shit like battleye will ban people for using a vm with gpu passthrough but can't actually fucking stop hackers as evident with rainbow 6 siege. So keep in mind some anti-cheats are just justifying their existenve through bs. Also expect EAC to not play ball with valve since they got bought by Epic Games. Timmy Tencent has a vested interest in trying to fuck valve over.

I fully expect Tim Sweeney to announce the "Epic Deck" now just to be a obnoxious cunt.

 

[Seasoned News Reporter]

I fully expect Tim Sweeney to announce the "Epic Deck" now just to be a obnoxious cunt.

He is in no way spending the capital for R&D for such a device. If he ever does announce the Epic Deck then I full expect it to be something like gpd win or another portably handheld pc he buys in bulk & marks up the price to ridiculous levels. Gpd win $1,310. Watch the epic deck cost $2,500

 

[NoonmanR]

Damn near anything is overhyped these days, but as long as it can provide a decent frame rate, and has the compatible library to back it up, i'd be more than satisfied with it.

 

[TheClorax]

Honestly besides a few surface similarities (price and mobility), I can’t see the Deck really competing with the Switch in any meaningful way. The two were designed with very different targets and functions in mind.
Switch exists to streamline Nintendo’s handheld and console platforms into one, and being an appealing family console (with more M-rated games for older audiences as well). Most more serious Switch owners (myself included), use it for the Nintendo exclusives and 3rd Party/indie games, and generally have another platform for other games, be it exclusives or games that don’t run as well on the Switch.
The Deck seems like an alternative to gaming laptops and bringing PC gaming to the console audience. Markets like Xbox and PlayStation are what the Deck will be cutting into, so it makes more sense to be comparing them to the Deck because those are what the Deck will actually be competing with.

 

[cummytummies]

Honestly besides a few surface similarities (price and mobility), I can’t see the Deck really competing with the Switch in any meaningful way. The two were designed with very different targets and functions in mind.
Switch exists to streamline Nintendo’s handheld and console platforms into one, and being an appealing family console (with more M-rated games for older audiences as well). Most more serious Switch owners (myself included), use it for the Nintendo exclusives and 3rd Party/indie games, and generally have another platform for other games, be it exclusives or games that don’t run as well on the Switch.
The Deck seems like an alternative to gaming laptops and bringing PC gaming to the console audience. Markets like Xbox and PlayStation are what the Deck will be cutting into, so it makes more sense to be comparing them to the Deck because those are what the Deck will actually be competing with.

I see the reasoning you're going for, but I also think the Deck targets another demographic not mentioned here.

The "hardcore" PC gamers who might've even seriously considered a Switch precisely to play those 3rd parties and indies with the convenience of a handheld platform, but found all the console drawbacks (being tied to a single storefront, no moddability, outlandish pricing, janky online support by a company stuck in the 90s) and figured the portability just couldn't justify all the other bullshit they had managed to avoid by sticking to PC.

The Deck advertises to fill the same role for a neckbeard PCMR fedora tipper that the Switch did to the dudebros and weebs. The level of quality and service each is used to, but in a handheld configuration. I don't expect many people to go from a Call of Duty God of War Madden machine to the Deck, but rather autists who want to game on the go or from the comfort of their bed but can't give up the advantages of PC gaming.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

Honestly besides a few surface similarities (price and mobility), I can’t see the Deck really competing with the Switch in any meaningful way. The two were designed with very different targets and functions in mind.
Switch exists to streamline Nintendo’s handheld and console platforms into one, and being an appealing family console (with more M-rated games for older audiences as well). Most more serious Switch owners (myself included), use it for the Nintendo exclusives and 3rd Party/indie games, and generally have another platform for other games, be it exclusives or games that don’t run as well on the Switch.
The Deck seems like an alternative to gaming laptops and bringing PC gaming to the console audience. Markets like Xbox and PlayStation are what the Deck will be cutting into, so it makes more sense to be comparing them to the Deck because those are what the Deck will actually be competing with.

I see the reasoning you're going for, but I also think the Deck targets another demographic not mentioned here.

The "hardcore" PC gamers who might've even seriously considered a Switch precisely to play those 3rd parties and indies with the convenience of a handheld platform, but found all the console drawbacks (being tied to a single storefront, no moddability, outlandish pricing, janky online support by a company stuck in the 90s) and figured the portability just couldn't justify all the other bullshit they had managed to avoid by sticking to PC.

The Deck advertises to fill the same role for a neckbeard PCMR fedora tipper that the Switch did to the dudebros and weebs. The level of quality and service each is used to, but in a handheld configuration. I don't expect many people to go from a Call of Duty God of War Madden machine to the Deck, but rather autists who want to game on the go or from the comfort of their bed but can't give up the advantages of PC gaming.

You guys are also forgetting another, although honestly not that big, market. I plan on buying this thing as a replacement to my Vita as my portable emulation station. Most of those shitty retroid pocket esque systems can barely handle a PS1 emulator. With this thing I'll finally achieve the dream of a truly portable PS2. The fact that it can play some current games (that aren't locked to steam) is just a bonus to me.

I bring a backpack to work so size really isn't a problem to me.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

Surprised no one said that the Steam Valve Deck looks like the Sega Nomad

 

[Toolbox]

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Surprised no one said that the Steam Valve Deck looks like the Sega Nomad

How long after launch do you think it will take for someone to mod a giant Nomad shell onto it, with working inputs and everything? Probably a week at most.

 

[Seasoned News Reporter]

To be perfectly honest, if they manage to get the EAC & whatever stupid anti-cheat shit working then they could have one hell of a gold mine. I don't particularly expect eac given with how gay as fuck epic games is but lets pretend they do for just a second. They literally could push with the best marketing slogan ever to convince console players to get one.

"Buy your games once, never pay to play online."

Idk about the rest of you but unless your a sony pony or a nintendo autist then not having to pay $60 a year to play your games online is already a huge marketing push right out the gate. Factor in the library thing where you can always play all the old games you bought if your system breaks or something. Backwards compat is just something console makers refuse to do. These two things would go a very long way in terms of goodwill & getting eyes on your product because then valve could use it to double as a massive fuck you to companies like microsoft. Also fuck bill gates & ibm. Gary Killdall deserved better.

 

[cummytummies]

To be perfectly honest, if they manage to get the EAC & whatever stupid anti-cheat shit working then they could have one hell of a gold mine. I don't particularly expect eac given with how gay as fuck epic games is but lets pretend they do for just a second. They literally could push with the best marketing slogan ever to convince console players to get one.

"Buy your games once, never pay to play online."

Idk about the rest of you but unless your a sony pony or a nintendo autist then not having to pay $60 a year to play your games online is already a huge marketing push right out the gate. Factor in the library thing where you can always play all the old games you bought if your system breaks or something. Backwards compat is just something console makers refuse to do. These two things would go a very long way in terms of goodwill & getting eyes on your product because then valve could use it to double as a massive fuck you to companies like microsoft. Also fuck bill gates & ibm. Gary Killdall deserved better.

All of that has been taken for granted on PC since whenever console manufacturers decided to start charging for online. The 360 did it, PS3 didn't, and Xbox won that generation in the hearts and minds of the public (in the West). With PS4 Sony realized that particular detail wasn't a selling point and ditched it only to come out far on top of the Xbone in sales and public perception.

Normies buy an Xbox or Playstation because that's what their friends game on. That's it. It's the result of decades of successful branding efforts. It's not a conversation you can suddenly upend with facts and logic.

 

[Seasoned News Reporter]

All of that has been taken for granted on PC since whenever console manufacturers decided to start charging for online. The 360 did it, PS3 didn't, and Xbox won that generation in the hearts and minds of the public (in the West). With PS4 Sony realized that particular detail wasn't a selling point and ditched it only to come out far on top of the Xbone in sales and public perception.

Normies buy an Xbox or Playstation because that's what their friends game on. That's it. It's the result of decades of successful branding efforts. It's not a conversation you can suddenly upend with facts and logic.

You do have a good point. Lots of people have the consoom mindset & brand loyalty which never made any sense to me. I guess I'm the outlier on that front.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Backwards compat is just something console makers refuse to do.

It's not something they refuse to do, it's something that was expensive because the architectures changed dramatically, the 360 running some Xbox games was a marvel at the time. Now that everything is x86 and AMD back-compat is no problem. Let's look forward to Nintendo and the...

 

[Orkeosaurus]

Gonna be great to see scalp Decks on Ebay for $700 while people like me have to wait til April or longer.

Also, I'd be very surprised if they don't release a Steam controller 2.0 to go with it eventually. It would have been the best PC gaming controller ever if they didn't insist on just one joystick.

 

[Calandrino]

I see the reasoning you're going for, but I also think the Deck targets another demographic not mentioned here.

The "hardcore" PC gamers who might've even seriously considered a Switch precisely to play those 3rd parties and indies with the convenience of a handheld platform, but found all the console drawbacks (being tied to a single storefront, no moddability, outlandish pricing, janky online support by a company stuck in the 90s) and figured the portability just couldn't justify all the other bullshit they had managed to avoid by sticking to PC.

The Deck advertises to fill the same role for a neckbeard PCMR fedora tipper that the Switch did to the dudebros and weebs. The level of quality and service each is used to, but in a handheld configuration. I don't expect many people to go from a Call of Duty God of War Madden machine to the Deck, but rather autists who want to game on the go or from the comfort of their bed but can't give up the advantages of PC gaming.

Well how the hell am I supposed to play pinball, Pac-Man, bullet hells, and other vertically-oriented games? Turning it sideways hardly seems a viable option. Sorry but this is a garbage toy for stupid trendy normalfag babies and of no use to the serious elite gamer such as myself. How did Gaybe fuck this up when the WonderSwan got it right over 20 years ago?

 

[Disc]

I'm gonna laugh my head off if this thing gets joy stick drift or something like that.

Seriously, though, it's definitely overhyped. There's a huge swarm of Antindos recently and I have no idea why.

It's a fatter switch with controllers you can’t detach and a dock sold seperately. And to be the target market for it, you probably have all the games in question on your actual PC. So what most of these people are buying is a 500-dollar peripheral that expands where you can play your games, but doesn't give you the ability to play any new ones.

Edit: And like other people have said, Nintendo still has it's gallery of staples. They'll be fine with this.

 

[Toolbox]

I'm gonna laugh my head off if this thing gets joy stick drift or something like that.

Seriously, though, it's definitely overhyped. There's a huge swarm of Antindos recently and I have no idea why.

It's a fatter switch with controllers you can’t detach and a dock sold seperately. And to be the target market for it, you probably have all the games in question on your actual PC. So what most of these people are buying is a 500-dollar peripheral that expands where you can play your games, but doesn't give you the ability to play any new ones.

Edit: And like other people have said, Nintendo still has it's gallery of staples. They'll be fine with this.

Disregarding everything else it's a new handheld, which is a vidya hardware market Nintendo has basically only been the one to ever dominate, the closest anyone else has got is SEGA or Sony and neither of them seem too interested these days, and one of whom has left hardware entirely, from a brand/company with ZERO name recognition for mobile systems outside of when they licensed shit to Nvidia a few years ago, which is so obscure basically no one's brought it up even here. At most it could kickstart a new division of the company for developing more hardware like this but it's not going to dethrone the king.

 

[ZMOT]

At most it could kickstart a new division of the company for developing more hardware like this but it's not going to dethrone the king.

yeah, people will always buy nintendo. but I'd say it doesn't need to dethrone anyone, just carve out it's own niche. and when it flops still might cause some changes down the line, gotta shake up the status quo every once in a while

To be perfectly honest, if they manage to get the EAC & whatever stupid anti-cheat shit working then they could have one hell of a gold mine. I don't particularly expect eac given with how gay as fuck epic games is but lets pretend they do for just a second. They literally could push with the best marketing slogan ever to convince console players to get one.

EAC etc is mainy an issue for multiplayer tho, I'd call anyone jumping into competitive online with a steam deck very brave...
the rest is GAAS always online AAA crap that can afford to bundle EAC to make sure people don't use cheat engine to get the items they're supposed to grind for or buy.

 

[Stasi]

yeah, people will always buy nintendo. but I'd say it doesn't need to dethrone anyone, just carve out it's own niche. and when it flops still might cause some changes down the line, gotta shake up the status quo every once in a while

I don't understand people flipping out about this somehow taking on Nintendo. Honestly don't thinks its even targeting the same market. There is overlap sure but Timmy's grandma is never buying this for little Timmy, she will get that colorful Mario console and Nintendo fans will always stick with Nintendo.

My hope is this opens up a new niche of handheld PCs, which is already seeing some activity with GPD and Aya. Think this will be more popular with existing PC gamers who want a different form factor. Hell, I'd like to get one so I can play PC games on the couch and in bed. No way in hell I'm going to be an early adopter with that price point though.

 

[Marissa Moira]

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Surprised no one said that the Steam Valve Deck looks like the Sega Nomad

Do all black portables look the same to you?