Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Ari Gold]

There are "respected health experts", like Dr. Megan Ranney from Brown University, who are just flat out going on CNN and saying "never."

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(They) really do love the word novel and surge. ALL KIDS MUST BE VAXED even if we don't know the long-term effects.

 

[Salubrious]

You just need to study the children in India, delta was running about since last November, also lmao at injection failure being blame on people rather than the injection.
Do these clown really believe because they renamed the variants that suddenly what it was before the renamed that it didn't happen?

I think these clown realize that if COVID was over, then they would go back to irrelevancy.

Would this chick even be getting interviewed by CNN if COVID was over?

Would anyone care about Fauci any more (except to praise him for his "great" work)? Would anyone care about that CDC bitch?

Our "medical health experts" have all the incentive in the world to keep this charade going as long as possible so they can stay in the spotlight.

 

[borsabil]

I think they don't have any idea what to do and are clutching at straws? The panic by the government in aussie is palpable at the moment. Is this our new 'normal'? Will we ever return to life pre-covid? I'm not sure...masks, vax's and random lockdowns? 80% isn't even achievable here as there is not enough vax's to begin with lol. So many are scared of even having the jab because of mixed reports but what is the alternative. I heard in Scomo's public address today that people who have had the jab are not considered public health risks. So, does that mean if you haven't had the jab then you are now the new public health risk? That's a scary term with lots of connotations

New South Wales has reported around 9000 Covid cases since Jan with 15 deaths, a 0.16% case fatality rate, equivalent to the seasonal flu.

Most of the deaths have been among the elderly, with the majority likely already terminally ill. Covid has evolved into a moderately bad cold.

There's no rational reason for the mass hysteria and government sperging. It's also apparent that they're using the lockdowns to bully the public into getting vaccinated. Make their lives miserable until they comply.

They REALLY want everyone to get the jab despite knowing as fact that the vaccines do not stop transmission or reduce mortality. Why they're doing this I'm not entirely sure, but it can't be good.

 

[Salubrious]

They REALLY want everyone to get the jab despite knowing as fact that the vaccines do not stop transmission or reduce mortality. Why they're doing this I'm not entirely sure, but it can't be good.

There's two theories that I have:

1) People that genuinely believe that COVID would disappear forever if the population were 100% vaccinated. The well-meaning idiots.

2) The politicans that know that there will be a subset of people that will never get vaccinated, so they can use those people to remain in the public eye (health experts) and keep passing "emergency powers" that give them full authoritarian control without those pesky "checks and balances" to get in their way.

I can't find the clip, but Maxine Waters basically said just as much with the eviction mortatorium: Biden should just extend it and then make anyone that complains go through the courts to stop it. That's how a lot of these politicans and quite frankly big businesses think: "I'll just do whatever I want and leave it up to the employees/citizens to take me to court to fight it." Keep in mind that the eviction mortatorium came from the CDC. Where did they get the power to do that? Nobody knows. In fact, the Supreme Court ruling "in their favor" last month basically said that they were upholding it since it expired in less than a month anyway.

 

[Quijibo69]

There's two theories that I have:

1) People that genuinely believe that COVID would disappear forever if the population were 100% vaccinated. The well-meaning idiots.

2) The politicans that know that there will be a subset of people that will never get vaccinated, so they can use those people to remain in the public eye (health experts) and keep passing "emergency powers" that give them full authoritarian control without those pesky "checks and balances" to get in their way.

I can't find the clip, but Maxine Waters basically said just as much with the eviction mortatorium: Biden should just extend it and then make anyone that complains go through the courts to stop it. That's how a lot of these politicans and quite frankly big businesses think: "I'll just do whatever I want and leave it up to the employees/citizens to take me to court to fight it." Keep in mind that the eviction mortatorium came from the CDC. Where did they get the power to do that? Nobody knows. In fact, the Supreme Court ruling "in their favor" last month basically said that they were upholding it since it expired in less than a month anyway.

I just think they just want the worlds largest shit show. Eat the poor.

 

[Jarolleon]

If they ever could save us from a pandemic, they certainly won't be able to now. The boy who cried wolf is now the epidemiologist who cried pandemic. It reminds me of when I was I was a kid and would play Sim City, you had disasters (tornado, flood, fire, UFO attack, etc.) you could spawn on your city which was always fun. You also had disaster management options like a tornado siren, police and fire deployment, etc. If you pressed the tornado siren button when there wasn't a tornado, you got to watch the people run around in panic which was funny. But after 2 or 3 times, the people didn't care anymore, even if there was an actual tornado. This is like that, but IRL and far, far worse.

The governments of the world are playing Sim City IRL, clicked a button "pandemic", and we're a bunch of sims to them. And they laughed at Herman Cain's tax plan for being too close to Sim City.

I wonder if there's some Chinese virology lab where the upper management are noticing this and laughing like cartoon villains. Once they have the real plague ready nobody will know if it's real or not until it hits their own friends and relatives.

 

[Yeeted Teet]

There's two theories that I have:

1) People that genuinely believe that COVID would disappear forever if the population were 100% vaccinated. The well-meaning idiots.

2) The politicans that know that there will be a subset of people that will never get vaccinated, so they can use those people to remain in the public eye (health experts) and keep passing "emergency powers" that give them full authoritarian control without those pesky "checks and balances" to get in their way.

I can't find the clip, but Maxine Waters basically said just as much with the eviction mortatorium: Biden should just extend it and then make anyone that complains go through the courts to stop it. That's how a lot of these politicans and quite frankly big businesses think: "I'll just do whatever I want and leave it up to the employees/citizens to take me to court to fight it." Keep in mind that the eviction mortatorium came from the CDC. Where did they get the power to do that? Nobody knows. In fact, the Supreme Court ruling "in their favor" last month basically said that they were upholding it since it expired in less than a month anyway.

3) It would be political suicide, not just on an individual level but for entire parties, to admit to a fuck up on this scale. No one can admit that they ruined lives, destroyed businesses, and indirectly killed more people than the virus was ever going to because they overreacted to a bad case of the sniffles. They can never admit that any one of these measures was a bad idea in hindsight, under any circumstances, so they have to keep going. They have to meet their vaccination targets, and they have to act like it's working, because otherwise this would all be for nothing. And if you think people are unhappy now, wait until they find out it's all been for nothing.

 

[SimpleJack420]

Here in NYC they just mandated proof of vaccination for indoor dining and events. Also if you are thinking of applying for a city job you need to be vaccinated. Guess its time for me to find that Vaccination card .pdf

 

[Mealy Mouth Spittle]

Is it really about weight tho? I have known plenty of fat fucks who got it and it was nothing

problably something else we are missing. Maybe a pre-existing heart condition or something.

I lost 2 family members to covid. The doctors seemed to think their deaths were related to clotting issues. They just couldn't stay ahead of the clots. There is a gene mutation that makes you more likely to develop blood clots (can't remember the name off the top of my head) and it runs in the family. Both family members had it. I haven't been tested for it, so don't know if I've got it. But I do worry that if clotting issues are the main risk factor for covid, I might be in trouble if I get it. Of course, the biggest risk of vaccines is clotting issues, too, so damned if you do, damned if you don't, I guess.

 

[FatalTater]

Here in NYC they just mandated proof of vaccination for indoor dining and events. Also if you are thinking of applying for a city job you need to be vaccinated. Guess its time for me to find that Vaccination card .pdf

So... Proof of vaccination to do the things, but are masks and social distancing still expected once you're there? If so, no thanks.

 

[Drain Todger]

The risk of ADE with these vaccines is real:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ijcp.13795

COVID-19 vaccines designed to elicit neutralising antibodies may sensitise vaccine recipients to more severe disease than if they were not vaccinated. Vaccines for SARS, MERS and RSV have never been approved, and the data generated in the development and testing of these vaccines suggest a serious mechanistic concern: that vaccines designed empirically using the traditional approach (consisting of the unmodified or minimally modified coronavirus viral spike to elicit neutralising antibodies), be they composed of protein, viral vector, DNA or RNA and irrespective of delivery method, may worsen COVID-19 disease via antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). This risk is sufficiently obscured in clinical trial protocols and consent forms for ongoing COVID-19 vaccine trials that adequate patient comprehension of this risk is unlikely to occur, obviating truly informed consent by subjects in these trials.

Dr. Robert Malone interview: https://www.bitchute.com/video/righfqyyjUKq/

Antibody-dependent enhancement and SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and therapies - Nature Microbiology

Mechanisms of antibody-dependent enhancement of disease and mitigation strategies for SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and therapies are discussed.

www.nature.com

Antibody-based drugs and vaccines against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) are being expedited through preclinical and clinical development. Data from the study of SARS-CoV and other respiratory viruses suggest that anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies could exacerbate COVID-19 through antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). Previous respiratory syncytial virus and dengue virus vaccine studies revealed human clinical safety risks related to ADE, resulting in failed vaccine trials. Here, we describe key ADE mechanisms and discuss mitigation strategies for SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and therapies in development. We also outline recently published data to evaluate the risks and opportunities for antibody-based protection against SARS-CoV-2.

As the virus mutates, it undergoes antigenic drift. Antibodies that worked against a previous strain are employed by the body against a new strain, and they become non-neutralizing because of changes in the virus's sequence. When that happens, they actually begin to act as trojan horses; the antibodies act as an extension to the virus's spike protein and the virions start infecting macrophages through the Fc receptor. It starts replicating in immune cells that it wouldn't have been able to infect before.

When ADE happens, a vaccine actually helps a virus, because the immune system is improperly trained.

 

[Mrs. Addams]

I can possibly dig them for you if you want the raw source and not the quick summation.

But pretty much its really low. A study from somewhere in Northern Europe estimated that people over 55 have like a 47% chance of being reinfected (I forget the outcome), while people under 55 have a 20% chance of reinfection,
A study using the US Marine Corps as survey/sample estimated it like a 10% chance of reinfection (but was limited to a mostly younger demographic).
Both found the chances of being asymptomatic and/or mild increased the second time around.

A recent study came out this past May finding that if you have had it before, even assuming you aren't testing positive for antibodies, you still have increased ability to fight off the infection. (Probably because T-cells are a thing that exist, and B-cells can always just make more antibodies).

Thanks! Good to know…

 

[Salubrious]

I love how they've been screaming systemic racism for 18 months, and then NYC institutes a policy that could actually be interpreted that way.

So when blacks are disproportionally turned away from gyms, movies, and restaurants, the sperging out will be great.



EDIT: HA HA HA HA HA

Fuck you, Cuomo. Get that ass banned.

 

[FatalTater]

I love how they've been screaming systemic racism for 18 months, and then NYC institutes a policy that could actually be interpreted that way.

So when blacks are disproportionally turned away from gyms, movies, and restaurants, the sperging out will be great.

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And when the riots happen, will they go to the homes and workplaces of the ones that make these rules? Nope. They'll go burn down a 7-11, rob a shoe store and break some old grandma's front window and call it a day.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

The risk of ADE with these vaccines is real:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ijcp.13795

Dr. Robert Malone interview: https://www.bitchute.com/video/righfqyyjUKq/

Antibody-dependent enhancement and SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and therapies - Nature Microbiology

Mechanisms of antibody-dependent enhancement of disease and mitigation strategies for SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and therapies are discussed.

www.nature.com

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As the virus mutates, it undergoes antigenic drift. Antibodies that worked against a previous strain are employed by the body against a new strain, and they become non-neutralizing because of changes in the virus's sequence. When that happens, they actually begin to act as trojan horses; the antibodies act as an extension to the virus's spike protein and the virions start infecting macrophages through the Fc receptor. It starts replicating in immune cells that it wouldn't have been able to infect before.

When ADE happens, a vaccine actually helps a virus, because the immune system is improperly trained.

As I predict this wont be an issue for the Unvaccinated in 6-12 months time if this scenario plays true.

The Vaccinated will be the ones who will live in fear of the virus.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Posibiec tends to doompost erroneously. Or maybe I'm just coping. But from what I understand, the federal government straight up doesn't have the authority to do lockdowns.

I think Posobiec has real sources, but I also don't think those sources represent concrete decisions that have been/will be made. Is the Biden admin talking about lockdown shit? Probably. But by the time all the other power brokers in the Biden admin weigh in, it will probably be downgraded to letting the media bully and cajole people on behalf of the government. Everyone from every political stripe (except middle ages wine moms/effeminate men who read the NYT) knows lockdowns would be overwhelmingly harmful to the DNC. I find it hard to believe the DNC itself doesn't know that.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

Fuck, here we go again. Just heard about this from a coworker


Giant Eagle revises mask rules for employees and guests

Spoiler

PITTSBURGH, Pennsylvania (WJW) – Giant Eagle announced this week that the company was reinstating mask-wearing.

“As we witness increases in positive COVID-19 cases across our communities and country, we are reinstituting the wearing of face masks, cloth face coverings, or face shields for Team Members and guests this week, inclusive of all vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals,” the company said in a press release.

Target to require masks for workers in areas with substantial COVID risk

All employees will be required to wear a face-covering starting, Wednesday, August 4.

The company is “strongly requesting” that guests follow the same mask requirement.

They will be providing a complimentary mask at each of their stores for guests.

The company will also be continuing curbside pickup and delivery.

US finally hits 70% COVID-19 vaccination rate — a month late, amid a surge

“…the Delta variant has created a renewed sense of urgency across our communities,” the company said in a press release.

Giant Eagle says it is educating employees about COVID-19 vaccinations, and actively reviewing data and policy about whether to require vaccines for employment.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

I think Posobiec has real sources, but I also don't think those sources represent concrete decisions that have been/will be made. Is the Biden admin talking about lockdown shit? Probably. But by the time all the other power brokers in the Biden admin weigh in, it will probably be downgraded to letting the media bully and cajole people on behalf of the government. Everyone from every political stripe (except middle ages wine moms/effeminate men who read the NYT) knows lockdowns would be overwhelmingly harmful to the DNC. I find it hard to believe the DNC itself doesn't know that.

I just don't see a lockdown not happening

They need a cover to stop the eviction and foreclosure of 6+ million people (2008 sub prime was only 3.2 million in comparision!!)

Not sure if you remember how things were then but Imagine a crisis twice as bad as 2008 happening right now. The country would absolutely go down in flames.

They can't let these eviction happen its an economic-deflationary atom bomb. They will use lockdowns to restore the situation

 

[Jarolleon]

I love how they've been screaming systemic racism for 18 months, and then NYC institutes a policy that could actually be interpreted that way.

So when blacks are disproportionally turned away from gyms, movies, and restaurants, the sperging out will be great.

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EDIT: HA HA HA HA HA

Fuck you, Cuomo. Get that ass banned.

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I heard that she's doing the hit job against Cuomo first so that she can go for Pussygate 2: Electric Boogaloo when Trump runs again, and nobody can call it a partisan hit job because she attacked a Democrat first.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

3) It would be political suicide, not just on an individual level but for entire parties, to admit to a fuck up on this scale. No one can admit that they ruined lives, destroyed businesses, and indirectly killed more people than the virus was ever going to because they overreacted to a bad case of the sniffles. They can never admit that any one of these measures was a bad idea in hindsight, under any circumstances, so they have to keep going. They have to meet their vaccination targets, and they have to act like it's working, because otherwise this would all be for nothing. And if you think people are unhappy now, wait until they find out it's all been for nothing.

I think the panicked way they're pushing the jab NOW NOW NOW is interesting. The cynic in me says it's because they don't want a control group. I'm thinking, okay I'm a CDC patsy or a politician. I see these numbers and realize this shot doesn't really do much to prevent infection. Worse yet, we've seen a small number of really weird adverse reactions to it, beyond the normal list of bad reactions to vaccines. Oh no. What if the fact that we haven't successfully tested this on humans comes back to bite me? What if, say ten-fifteen years down the line we see building chronic health issues in a subset of the population? Well shit, I don't want there to be a really clear delineation between the people who have these issues and the ones who don't. That'd be grounds for criminal charges. Everyone get it! That way my ass is covered if something bad happens later. Then it's just happening at random and it wasn't my fault!