Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

Video from outside on the landing gear...

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And here i thought those dubai drifting vids were extreme. Redbul should sponsor these middle east shenanigans
you're wrong. air superiority IS the silver bullet in an actual war. american military capabilities were and still are the best on the planet, no other power even comes close to being able to compete. the actual war in afghanistan was won in weeks. same in iraq.

it is not military failure that causes american defeat in these situations, but political failure. to put it simply: an armys purpose is fighting against other armies. the americans do this extraordinarily well, they are extremely effective at it.
an army can do wars, occupations, crackdowns, ethnic cleansing, genocide, deportations, scorched earth, bunch of other nasty shit, no problem. if what you need is violence, the military delivers. but if you want to build states, legal systems, public institutions, economies, and all that kind of shit which is needed to form a sovereign nation? that's not something generals and soldiers can do for you, it is simply outside their expertise.

my point is that americas failures are diplomatic and political in nature, not military.
Do you think a military structure is just boots on the floor? Russian can hack & disrupt your any network at will. China has been experimenting thousands of psychological tricks on your country. Your own media industry is punching down your troops to fill them with guilt. Half of the citizens hate them wishing their fall. Fucking pakistan manipulated you lol that's your burger military
 
Seeing that pic of that crowded ass plane, I wonder what's the possibility of the Taliban attempting to commit 9/11 2: Electric Boogaloo? It wouldn't be hard to mix in some Taliban diehards into the evacuation, especially since most pics I've seen have young fighting age men just fleeing the country. In my mind, they kinda got everything they wanted. They got all of Afghanistan to themselves to do whatever they want and made the Great Satan look like total losers. I don't really see an incentive for them to pull anything, especially if they do it they'll be buttfucked all over again.

On the other hand, Biden is still sending troops over to help with the evacuation to my knowledge. If those guys end up staying past the Sept. 11 deadline, that might be incentive enough. I'm kinda doubtful tho, but in this timeline it feels like anything is possible.
yeah I certainly wouldn't want to be there to test it, but so far it seems TB is trying to handle things with at least an interest in looking like they hold to what they say
and making the usa look even worse than usual in the process
I can easily see that one day they strike back at targets but I wouldn't be _that_ shocked if they actually hold up their end of things and bitch when the USA starts dragging ass again, while still sending wackos with RPGs out to arrest people and other insane shit afghan islams do, just to keep making clear an idea of "we will let you leave because we keep our word. and we will run our shit how we run our shit."
 

I was talking to someone today about this, and they were flummoxed at "what did they think would happen?"

The best I could think of was that they simply probably don't know it's a bad idea. They probably lack a basic foundation of knowledge and experience to know sitting on the side of a plane isn't like sitting in the flatbed of a truck.

If someone from the 8th century did it, you'd understand them not knowing better. That's the way you sometimes need to understand people in different parts of the world or underdeveloped communities where you may live. There's just so much knowledge about the modern world and the ways of doing things we take for granted.
 
They are already laying the blame at the ANA and former Afghan government. Its a good weasel strategy you would expect from an experienced bureaucrat. They're not going to go Vietnam protesters spitting on soldiers. Colbert's monologue is telling us that they have not given up on 9/11 soldier worship (especially now that the military is as pozzed as the rest of the government at this point), and not-so-subtly calling for them to kill MAGAtards.
They didn't pay their fucking soldiers. What did they expect?
 
When are they going to start shelling the airfield? I wanna see how bad this can get.

They won't as it would just invite a military response but it's fun to speculate. Also they won't be behind 9/11 2.0 or whatever you dumbass zoomers think. That was the Saudis and AQ. The Taliban just want to be left alone and to patrol thots.
 
I was talking to someone today about this, and they were flummoxed at "what did they think would happen?"

The best I could think of was that they simply probably don't know it's a bad idea. They probably lack a basic foundation of knowledge and experience to know sitting on the side of a plane isn't like sitting in the flatbed of a truck.

If someone from the 8th century did it, you'd understand them not knowing better. That's the way you sometimes need to understand people in different parts of the world or underdeveloped communities where you may live. There's just so much knowledge about the modern world and the ways of doing things we take for granted.
I think they where thinking one of 2 things.
A) They wont actually take off when they see us and will have to let us in.

B) We are marked as American collaborators since we are at the airport and I see the Taliban outside the fence waiting for me if I try and run. Something that has a 0.0001% chance of working it better then 100% chance of dying a slow painful traitors death. And I saw Arnold Schwarzenegger do it in a movie once.
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People posting strait twitter links with no archive: Use youtube-dl. No one can see your links unless they are logged in. Twitter seems to be SHUTTING IT DOWN mode.
Word is that this is likely permanent. I'm sure the timing is intentional, but all of the major social platforms are rolling this out. On facebook you cannot access quite literally anything anymore without an account.

Rightclick on the video, "copy video address" then just paste it after youtube-dl and press enter.
And a tip for people who can no longer view twitter: if someone posts a link to a tweet with a video, you can also just paste that directly into youtube-dl and it should still be able to grab it

The only thing I hate more than the social media companies doing this is the nigger cattle that it doesn't even seem to phase. Even after months and months, I still have friends sending me facebook links that I, nor most other people, can even read. No fuck off you retarded nigger. I'm not making an account.
 
So does anyone wonder why the fuck no news source -- not even a conservative or tabloid type source that could "make hay" out of anti-Biden sentiment and love "if it bleeds, it leads" material -- is currently running a counter on planes and evacuees currently known to be rescued?

That kind of counting isn't just a gimmick to get clicks (it is that, too, of course). Just like we've seen with doing daily case counts for covid and tracking them on graphs, making people get out the numbers and having people who are pressing for those numbers to go in a specific direction can have a significant policy influence. For best results, they could even have a counter on the number of EMPTY SEATS flown by these planes, an indictment of this administration's inability to plan at the scale of human lives.

If the New York Post or similar wanted to push these assholes into actually making a difference, it's one of the few times an infographic might actually save lives.
My personal guess? Because that's classified information regarding national security. Believe me, I'm in no way implying the U.S. government is the slightest bit competent, but it's probably a matter of national safety to not openly disclose exact details of evacuation routes and numbers.

Just a theory.
 
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B) We are marked as American collaborators since we are at the airport and I see the Taliban outside the fence waiting for me if I try and run. Something that has a 0.0001% chance of working it better then 100% chance of dying a slow painful traitors death. And I saw Arnold Schwarzenegger do it in a movie once.
Given that they're literal dirt farmers, it's more likely that either
A) they didn't realize that (or how) the wheels would even retract
B) they didn't know that you cannot breathe at the height an airplane flies
 
Word is that this is likely permanent. I'm sure the timing is intentional, but all of the major social platforms are rolling this out. On facebook you cannot access quite literally anything anymore without an account.

The only thing I hate more than the social media companies doing this is the nigger cattle that it doesn't even seem to phase. Even after months and months, I still have friends sending me facebook links that I, nor most other people, can even read. No fuck off you retarded nigger. I'm not making an account..
I feel your pain.



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My personal guess? Because that's classified information regarding national security. Believe me, I'm in no way implying the U.S. government is the slightest bit competent, but it's probably a matter of national safety to not openly disclose exact details of evacuation routes and numbers.

Just a theory.

The counter could be updated only when news was made official. We've got official numbers coming out on Twitter, it's just that no one's collating and verifying them.
 
When are they going to start shelling the airfield? I wanna see how bad this can get.
The Taliban are run by adults, this likely will not occur unless some random taliban soldiers on opium decide to make a run on the airport unsupported. How long the Taliban will tolerate the shenanigans is the real question, they have people outside the airport trying to keep traffic flowing by clearing the roadway but eventually establishing the government will end and they'll want the airport functional for service.
 
Do Pashtuns still follow Pashtunwali?
if there is any sincere pashto-ese-er-ners or whatevers here
please advise about batshit pashto trash movies (or so I've been told they are)
so far I have seen
Haseena Atom Bomb
Adam Khor
Da Khwar Lasme Spagmay (aka Cat Beast)
Gorkund
and
Lor Da Shaitan

I remember Haseena Atom Bomb sorta at least, like the part when the person gets hung and the otehr part where the person gets stabbed to death with a giant four foot long cartoon syringe
 
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Accidental 200 IQ?
No. If we did indeed act as a grindstone on people who prefer the stone age, we crafted a hostile-yet-competent state that looks poised to do business with our biggest rivals, who they share a boarder with. China can finally do its belt-and-road initiative with a lot less countries on board, and get oil straight from Iran if The Emirate can hold together.

I'm not holding my breath though, because the reason the Taliban are behaving so well is because the whole country had a common enemy. Even stable modern Arab countries struggle with the Sunni/Shia divide. And Afghanistan makes the Arab world look like Williamsburg, Brooklyn in terms of world outlook.
 
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