Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Car Won't Crank]

Australia began as a prison colony, only makes sense their reaction to COVID is to place everyone under house arrest. God help you if it goes past the AFL Grand Final.

So sad to see the state of Australia now. I dunno about the rest of you but before and even after visiting Straya, my notion of the country and its people is that they're a hardy bunch living in one of the harshest climates and against some of the wildest creatures on this planet. Seeing how the higher ups in Aus are going full Gestapo on Corona-chan when it has been proven to be not as dangerous as the media make it out to be is pitiful and sad. Former notions shattered and much respect lost.

 

[Realistic Elephant]

Also, what are some other examples of non-sterilizing vaccines that are being used or have been used?

Some that come to mind - influenza, cholera and rotavirus.

 

[Non-breath oblige]

They are this close to connecting the dots that this was never about the virus...but they'll probably end up simping for more mandated lockdowns, masks, and jabs anyway.

 

[Puff]

Slight PL but:
We have had mandatory 'happy go fun' Teams meetings and when I'm asked how I'm doing I have defaulted to saying 'I would rather catch covid and die'. I know it sounds very 'and then everyone applauded' but the only countermeasure I've found to dealing with these people is to use their covid fear against them a la malicious compliance.
What's that? I skipped a meeting? Whoops I was out on my 1 hr Government Allocated Free Range Grazing time, sun is good for defending against COVID!!!! or Sorry I needed a mental health break uWu so many new cases i had a panic attack!11!1!

normally I don't resort to this giga faggotry but its the only way I can stay sane atm. Apologies for the rant and thank you all for making me feel like I'm not going crazy.

I love my sunburnt country, it is the best place in the world to me. I feel like I'm watching it be destroyed while everyone around me assures me that I'm overreacting.

Yeah, I'm using this to avoid going to my companies other office. An hour of rush hour traffic? No. I fear for my life going to the location with actual thousands of workers.
I'm gonna telecommute as long as they'll let me.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

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They are this close to connecting the dots that this was never about the virus...but they'll probably end up simping for more mandated lockdowns, masks, and jabs anyway.

People have been coming a hair's breadth away since last summer but then just say we should've locked down harder or it's orange man's fault. They'll never get it.

 

[StraightOuttaSomalia]

Well so much for going back to the gym. Got an email saying they are gonna follow through with the Jew vaccine card policy next month. Will be using up the remaining weeks I have left until I cancel. Small businesses are already struggling to stay open to begin with Who in their right mind would implement this retarded policy at a time like this?

 

[LaxerBRO]

Well so much for going back to the gym. Got an email saying they are gonna follow through with the Jew vaccine card policy next month. Will be using up the remaining weeks I have left until I cancel. Small businesses are already struggling to stay open to begin, who in their right mind would implement this retarded policy at a time like this?

The copy of the vaccine card is available on Wikipedia. Just print it out have your friend fill out the first portion with one color pen and fill the second dose portion yourself with another color.

 

[NoSpiceLife]

So question: Has anyone asked their insurers, if they cover you when you've had an experimental medical treatment?

Makes me wonder about the death figures, and whether the 'shonky' numbers are deliberate in a good way (yes I know rate me optimistic), in that just like house insurance and 'acts of god', if those acts were done by arsonists instead, then they are fully covered, so thinking about 'cause of death', if the cause of death is a result of the injections, then insurers won't cover them, but if the cause of death is heart attack, then they will.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I just found out an old school friend died the other day, from acute liver failure. She was a few months younger than me and, while a bit of a chub last time I saw her, wasn't in particularly bad health. Her dad died a few weeks ago, though from what I don't know. It wasn't the rona, or I'd be hearing about it non-stop from everyone who thinks I should just give up and take the needle, which leads me to suspect she had complications from the vaccine.

Nobody I know has died from corona, but I know directly, or by one remove, plenty of people who have started showing side effects from their vaccines. If these two are the same cause then that'll be two people I know who have died from the shot.

 

[PFM]

Anyone have the link handy to calculate your mortality risk if you catch covid?

 

[Considered HARMful]

I just found out an old school friend died the other day, from acute liver failure. She was a few months younger than me and, while a bit of a chub last time I saw her, wasn't in particularly bad health. Her dad died a few weeks ago, though from what I don't know. It wasn't the rona, or I'd be hearing about it non-stop from everyone who thinks I should just give up and take the needle, which leads me to suspect she had complications from the vaccine.

Liver failure - maybe a suicide attempt by overdosing on painkillers?

 

[Salubrious]

Anyone have the link handy to calculate your mortality risk if you catch covid?

QCovid™ risk calculator

qcovid.org

The copy of the vaccine card is available on Wikipedia. Just print it out have your friend fill out the first portion with one color pen and fill the second dose portion yourself with another color.

I would not recommend that. With as Gestapo as they are already, they will absolutely start charging people with felony forgery if they get caught.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Liver failure - maybe a suicide attempt by overdosing on painkillers?

She's not the type. Worth considering, though. This last couple of years has been hellish for a lot of people who'd normally sail through life without a care.

 

[Salubrious]

You know it's bad when even the Washington Post is reporting "ehh MAYBE Moderna can lead to heart problems."

https://archive.is/uNJOG

Federal health officials are investigating emerging reports that the Moderna coronavirus vaccine may be associated with a higher risk of a heart condition called myocarditis in younger adults than previously believed, according to two people familiar with the review who emphasized the side effect still probably remains uncommon.

The investigation, which involves the Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, is focusing on Canadian data that suggests the Moderna vaccine may carry a higher risk for young people than the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, especially for males below the age of 30 or so. The authorities also are scrutinizing data from the United States to try to determine whether there is evidence of an increased risk from Moderna in the U.S. population.

Edit: Holy fuck, even Yahoo is acknowledging it. Something MUST be up.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

I have a question for all you covid believers, mostly for people claiming they have or had covid, are there any symptoms that you can say are ONLY from covid? And if yes have you tried putting that symptom you think is from covid on a medical database to see what the causes of that can be?

The reason Im asking this is because I had the flu last year, and most symptoms they claim are covid I had in the past years for other deseases (including taste and smell loss, weakness, fever, cough). One of the few things I did not have is pneumonia, but I know most people have had that before.

Most respiratory viruses will have the same or extremely similar set of symptoms.
Some symptoms, such as fever, coughing, and mucus, are actually your body reacting to the infection, rather than the infection itself.

People got too used to thinking of humanity as having complete control over nature.

It's kind of sad because in most cases Humanity does.
The amount of species we could eradicate if we tried is terrifying; but watching one little virus effortless thwart the control freaks is something of beauty, IMHO. Its equal parts terrifying because of the lengths said control freaks would go to keep nature on the other side of the fence.

Thanks. About the mutations, though, WHO are saying that dangerous variants will emerge among the non-vaccinated, which is why before giving out booster shots, we should first make sure everybody in all countries gets the first two shots.

That's also dumb because mutations are random but selection is not.
People getting vaccinated with non-sterilizing vaccines (or even sterilizing vaccines in rare cases) creates a situation where selective pressure is favoring lineages that can spread in spite of vaccination.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

To the extent that it’s safe to do so, I’ve decided to approach conversations with Branch Covidians in my area going forward with brevity, dispassionate refusal, and an absolutist avoidance of justification. I do not need to justify what I choose to do with MY body.

“blah blah blah”
“I disagree. Pass the salt.”

“why aren’t you—“
“I’m not interested thank you, good day.”

and so forth

So much of this is projection and looking for excuses to mob-mentality displace some weird scapegoat rage at me. I will not accept their terms and give them fuel.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

If everyone just did what they were told at the beginning, there wouldn't be any new strains anymore.


What bothers me is that people will die who otherwise might have live if we DIDN'T lockdown. Suicide due to isolation is skyrocketing. Depression is skyrocking. Obesity is skyrocketing. But the time a year ago that I've mentioned here before, when I said it wasn't worth saving 10K people from COVID if 20K died due to the lockdowns, my friend's Dad literally asked me if "that was my Final Solution." Those were his exact words; literally Hitler for suggesting people died of things other than COVID.

Only a Global lockdown last January or February could of eradicated the virus. No planes flying, no migrants, no cruise ships, no traveling. no leaving the house for 30 days. But you would never get global compliance.

And even that is dicey on its outcome, people just wont comply many are to poor to comply and they have to go to work.

All lockdowns after that were kind of pointless if you think about it. You only delay inevitable infection...I can understand if hospital capacity is not up to snuff i suppose, but if the aim is to supress the virus that then is pointless.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

To the extent that it’s safe to do so, I’ve decided to approach conversations with Branch Covidians in my area going forward with brevity, dispassionate refusal, and an absolutist avoidance of justification. I do not need to justify what I choose to do with MY body.

“blah blah blah”
“I disagree. Pass the salt.”

“why aren’t you—“
“I’m not interested thank you, good day.”

and so forth

So much of this is projection and looking for excuses to mob-mentality displace some weird scapegoat rage at me. I will not accept their terms and give them fuel.

I just lie at this point.

They aren't adults so they don't deserve to be talked to like adults. I just lie to them like I do a child who thinks Santa Claus is real.

 

[Salubrious]

Only a Global lockdown last January or February could of eradicated the virus. No planes flying, no migrants, no cruise ships, no traveling.

And even that is dicey on its outcome.

All lockdowns after that were kind of pointless if you think about it. You only delay inevitable infection.

You see, even though I would have MASSIVELY disagreed with it, I could at least understand the argument that "we need to get a vaccine to protect the vulnerable before we reopen everything."

Now we have the vaccine. For like 8 months. We've had it so long that's it actually starting to wear off. And restrictions have barely gotten any better for a lot of people. In fact, they are worse in a lot of places.

Now they are trying to simultaneously say that (1) vaccines are perfectly safe and will protect you from COVID AND (2) the unvaccinated can kill the vaccinated people because the virus doesn't provide full protection and (3) the vaccines are effective but you need a booster shot every 6-12 months. All these things can't be true at once, but they are going to just keep saying they are and then scream and anyone that questions them.

To the extent that it’s safe to do so, I’ve decided to approach conversations with Branch Covidians in my area going forward with brevity, dispassionate refusal, and an absolutist avoidance of justification. I do not need to justify what I choose to do with MY body.

“blah blah blah”
“I disagree. Pass the salt.”

“why aren’t you—“
“I’m not interested thank you, good day.”

and so forth

So much of this is projection and looking for excuses to mob-mentality displace some weird scapegoat rage at me. I will not accept their terms and give them fuel.

I just say that I want old people and children to die. I mean, that's what they think anyway so I might as well lean into it.

They will not accept ANY answer as to why you don't want the vaccine; you are too stupid to realize the vaccine will save lives. You could have a legit medical condition to prevent you from getting it and they will still say you are obligated too (see Offspring drummer guy.)

 

[borsabil]

Only a Global lockdown last January or February could of eradicated the virus. No planes flying, no migrants, no cruise ships, no traveling. no leaving the house for 30 days. But you would never get global compliance.

And even that is dicey on its outcome, people just wont comply many are to poor to comply and they have to go to work.

All lockdowns after that were kind of pointless if you think about it. You only delay inevitable infection...I can understand if hospital capacity is not up to snuff i suppose, but if the aim is to supress the virus that then is pointless.

No you're wrong. Covid has an animal reserve, it was detected in domesticated minks and cats very early on in the pandemic and is now found in deer of all things. In fact an escaped lab animal is one way the virus could have leaked out of the Wuhan lab.

Like the flu Covid is both a human to human and zoonotic virus. It's being transmitted between individuals and between species. Even if we had a vaccine as good as the smallpox one we can't wipe this thing out and never could.