US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Jeremiah the Bullfrog]

they probably can, however: to where? middle east? qatar already told them to fuck off with that shit. europe would probably be cucked enough to take them, but people still remember those migrant hordes and constant immigrant crimes didn't help. america? bad optics and PR like europe.

that's the problem, they could've done it on the down low over time and no one would've noticed or even cared. but now you got scary high numbers they fearmongered people with over a year and people paying attention, which completely fucks with their "we totally gonna do and then forget about it like everyone else" routine.

Part of the problem is that it isn't as simple as just getting these people on a plane and dropping them off somewhere. We're talking tens of thousands of people.

You've got to feed them. You've got to clothe them. You've got to house them. You've got to provide sanitation, medical assistance etc.

This isn't an undertaking that you can just pull out of your ass at the last minute. This requires a plan and it's becoming readily apparent that we don't have one.

I can't speak for the situation in Qatar, but instead of telling them to fuck off because they don't want the immigrants, they may have not had the capacity to take anymore without it breaking down. If you do this wrong, you're importing a humanitarian crisis into your backyard.

What scares the shit out of me is that we have 9 days until everybody is supposed to be out. What happens when we inevitably miss that mark? What is the Taliban going to do then?

 

[Gehenna]

Part of the problem is that it isn't as simple as just getting these people on a plane and dropping them off somewhere. We're talking tens of thousands of people.

You've got to feed them. You've got to clothe them. You've got to house them. You've got to provide sanitation, medical assistance etc.

This isn't an undertaking that you can just pull out of your ass at the last minute. This requires a plan and it's becoming readily apparent that we don't have one.

I can't speak for the situation in Qatar, but instead of telling them to fuck off because they don't want the immigrants, they may have not had the capacity to take anymore without it breaking down. If you do this wrong, you're importing a humanitarian crisis into your backyard.

What scares the shit out of me is that we have 9 days until everybody is supposed to be out. What happens when we inevitably miss that mark? What is the Taliban going to do then?

This.

The countries around Afghanistan have simply hit capacity. Their ability to provide the base essentials is strained. And keep in mind, the more people you have coming in, the harder it gets. Not linearly, rather every additional body increases the cost exponentially of every other body.

 

[PFM]

but I am pretty sure there's only a 50/50 shot of him running.

"I'm pretty sure I have no clue if he's running, could go either way"

Such an odd claim

 

[Collections Agent]

Literally they just cheesed Biden into power to spite Trump and had no plan on what to do once he was in other than to abuse executive orders as much as possible to undo Trump era policies before their voting base realized they were good.

 

[WeDon'tNeedToWhisper]

Living in a very blue state, I was pleasantly surprised to see this guy at the grocery store a couple days ago.

Spoiler: wasn't sure if I wanted to post

I told him I liked his shirt

 

[Gehenna]

Literally they just cheesed Biden into power to spite Trump and had no plan on what to do once he was in other than to abuse executive orders as much as possible to undo Trump era policies before their voting base realized they were good.

They had more of a plan than that, it's just at every stage its been falling apart.

1: With Corona going and the vaccines on the way, they could claim to defeat the Coof.
2: By pushing the whole "Most Popular President Ever" they hoped to gaslight the Right and much of the Center into supporting him.
3: A handful of 'simple' bills would ensure their future longevity.
4: If all else fails, the 9/11 pullout of Afghanistan would recoup any losses and then some.

And well...

Corona proved to be unreliable at best, and a series of badly timed crises caused them to have to release their control over that. With people alright out from under lockdowns, they lost the real pressure that provided any real benefit from it. The Most Popular President thing hit a massive wall of nobody buying the gaslighting and in fact the rot of disbelief in the system going even into their own party. They tried to recoup some of that through the stupid "Insurrection" shit but it never gained real traction no matter how hard they tried. Those bills were in peril due to the 50/50 senate which they didn't expect. Then the Blue Dogs held out on them and they stalled out. And their Hail Mary became Hail Satan in terms of damage.

 

[CarlosDanger]

So Biden is scheduled to go to Delaware, the press pool of traveling journalists are ready to go....he then cancels the trip to Delaware.

 

[God of Nothing]

Living in a very blue state, I was pleasantly surprised to see this guy at the grocery store a couple days ago.

Spoiler: wasn't sure if I wanted to post

View attachment 2468520 I told him I liked his shirt

The funniest shit is only the most brainwashed douchebags can blame him for thinking that.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Sunday NY Post

 

[AnotherPleb]

So Biden is scheduled to go to Delaware, the press pool of traveling journalists are ready to go....he then cancels the trip to Delaware.

Where in the world is Joe Biden?

 

[Marissa Moira]

So how big of a deal is it that they left the computer systems intact in the tanks and aircraft that we left behind?

 

[Gehenna]

So how big of a deal is it that they left the computer systems intact in the tanks and aircraft that we left behind?

Thankfully, not -terribly-. Does mean it needs new security protocols but it will take a while for the Taliban to trade it to either of our two competitors and take time for them to crack it.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

Trump basically said in his speech that if we aren't willing to go back in guns blazing, then we won't see the thousands left behind alive again. This is a clear example of something he would see as a necessary military mission, something with a clear goal and a get-in, get-out timeline.

That's how you save this situation, you get the rest of the 82nd in, and send them out armed to the teeth much like 2 Para has been doing. I doubt Trump would've allowed it to get to this situation as his deal included the "I will fuck you up if you don't honour the deal" caveat. Snatching an (albeit) bloody victory from an already snapped closed jaw of defeat.

Oddly enough, the Taliban has generally not fucked with the heavily armed british sallies to collect our own people beyond the odd attempted potshot. Mostly because they've played that dance with those specific units many times before. They've lost every time.

 

[Compositesludge]

This.

The countries around Afghanistan have simply hit capacity. Their ability to provide the base essentials is strained. And keep in mind, the more people you have coming in, the harder it gets. Not linearly, rather every additional body increases the cost exponentially of every other body.

One thing Trump hit that I appreciated was how he said that we'd have to go in guns blazing to have a chance at saving people. It's literal, sure, but the other big thing about that is that it's going to require a certain level of short-term commitment with tangible and appreciable resources dedicated to its success. At the very, very least, some course of action beyond being unsure of if they should go to the airport or not or if it'd be better to go to Delaware or not. Using the Civil Reserve Air Fleet was the last plan I heard floated, but that's only for those who made it to military bases outside of Afghanistan. God help those still stranded in Afghanistan, because I'm not sure that Biden will.

 

[AssRapistDude1488]

That's how you save this situation, you get the rest of the 82nd in, and send them out armed to the teeth much like 2 Para has been doing. I doubt Trump would've allowed it to get to this situation as his deal included the "I will fuck you up if you don't honour the deal" caveat. Snatching an (albeit) bloody victory from an already snapped closed jaw of defeat.

Oddly enough, the Taliban has generally not fucked with the heavily armed british sallies to collect our own people beyond the odd attempted potshot. Mostly because they've played that dance with those specific units many times before. They've lost every time.

does the UK parliament hold foreign leaders in contempt regularly? I did a cursory search and found nothing. At any rate they were right to do so.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

does the UK parliament hold foreign leaders in contempt regularly? I did a cursory search and found nothing. At any rate they were right to do so.

No. It's genuinely rare. There's a lot of genuine anger over here and despair from veterans and the families of those lost. There's a few voices saying we have to try and keep America in the game as the last time there was a fuckup this size it took till Ronny Regan came to power in 81 to really bring the US back into the international game. (And even then, it was probably pushing 85 and his second term before it really picked up again). We can't really afford that with China on maneovers.

There's also some bruhahah over the resettlement. General sentiment is "these are the kind of people we'd like to come live here as they helped us" meaning they're not in the same boat as the arseholes crossing the channel before being put up in a 4* hotel.

There's also wildly changing estimates on how many are eligable. Government thinks its about 5,000 or so others will say 20-30,000. I'm not sure if it counts dependants or not. The suddenness is also causing issues.

Contract law is also coming into play as a number of Afghans were hired third party for guarding various British places and peoples for a paycheck, they didn't run when the Taliban swept in and have made their way to Kabul Airport (likely in a 2Para Evac convoy) only to be told as they were hired third party they're not eligable.

All this because of the chaos of the collapse of the ANA and Afghan Government.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Part of the problem is that it isn't as simple as just getting these people on a plane and dropping them off somewhere. We're talking tens of thousands of people.

You've got to feed them. You've got to clothe them. You've got to house them. You've got to provide sanitation, medical assistance etc.

This isn't an undertaking that you can just pull out of your ass at the last minute. This requires a plan and it's becoming readily apparent that we don't have one.

I can't speak for the situation in Qatar, but instead of telling them to fuck off because they don't want the immigrants, they may have not had the capacity to take anymore without it breaking down. If you do this wrong, you're importing a humanitarian crisis into your backyard.

What scares the shit out of me is that we have 9 days until everybody is supposed to be out. What happens when we inevitably miss that mark? What is the Taliban going to do then?

The same people who mustered up the Nat' Guard for their inauguration are managing Afghanistan now.

 

[Surprised Pikachu]

Apologies for my ignorance but it’s so bloody frustrating watching this my head can’t grasp it. This is the U.S. MILITARY we’re talking about, not the local Scout Troop or some ragtag ‘army’ from Albania or some other shithole. I can understand if, say, Finland was experiencing logistical problems but the USA? No way. Something is happening because this situation could have been resolved yesterday if they wanted to.

(In before you give me all the reasons why not, I’m just a civilian who sees people stuck in a warzone and doesn’t understand why the No. 1 military force in the world is failing to help their own citizens. How hard can it be?)

I miss Trump. Wouldn’t have happened under 45.

 

[derpherp2]

Thankfully, not -terribly-. Does mean it needs new security protocols but it will take a while for the Taliban to trade it to either of our two competitors and take time for them to crack it.

Inb4 the password for a lot of important shit is 1111.
AGAIN.

One of the earliest reasons people didn't really buy the MOST POPULAR PRESIDENT EVER!!1 meme is that Biden had virtually no enthusiasm at events, while Trump could fill a fucking stadium.

It's surreal seeing that both of those are still true, with the Donald being able to fill basically any venue with his presence while official Biden events struggle to get anyone to fucking show up.

Don't forget not only filling stadiums but filling stadiums after Democrats hogged up tickets and not showing up.

As a fervent anti-jabber, I'd say that he's kind of not. The big thing about being pissed off as a regular american and being pissed at people who defend it is that they're usually defending it as a means of justifying encroaching on your right to bodily autonomy.

He's simultaneously defending the jab, and people's right to choose what they do with their bodies. Most people against it don't give a shit if people who want to take it, take it, but this mandate shit is awful.

Not only because the mandate shit is awful but the mandate shit is so fucking backwards in so many ways.
Requiring proof of vaccination for shit now? Have fun with that system, especially after "60%" of the population has had the vaccine before the proof shit happened.

 

[AnotherPleb]

Apologies for my ignorance but it’s so bloody frustrating watching this my head can’t grasp it. This is the U.S. MILITARY we’re talking about, not the local Scout Troop or some ragtag ‘army’ from Albania or some other shithole. I can understand if, say, Finland was experiencing logistical problems but the USA? No way. Something is happening because this situation could have been resolved yesterday if they wanted to.

(In before you give me all the reasons why not, I’m just a civilian who sees people stuck in a warzone and doesn’t understand why the No. 1 military force in the world is failing to help their own citizens. How hard can it be?)

I miss Trump. Wouldn’t have happened under 45.

Easier to push another forever war if Americans are massacred, and it lets the media try to memory hole the reason why this happened the way it did in the first place.