Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

I find it really suspect that it took this long for a livestream to pop up. Ruptly had one running for all of 50minutes before it was cut.


Im shocked the internet is up givin the taliban is in control. In 2001 televisions and cellphones were not even allowed. Heck i think even radios were taboo.

But i have noticed a bit this isnt our grandfathers taliban given the twitter shitposting by their official account
 
That live stream gave me a wide panoramic shot of the city that I couldn't get until now and it showcases why I was so nervous initially when the US was corralled into the airport. If you pay attention, the airplanes are below the hills surrounding the airport. The airport has massive hills surrounding it and if the Taliban got into a pissing match with the US they could easily scope out the interior of the airport and use the hills to fire down into it with stuff like Anti-Tank Guided Missiles and with artillery pieces they've picked up from the ANA. Not to mention MANPAD the airplanes as they try taking off. Fortunately the Taliban just wants us to get the fuck out and leave so they haven't taken this route. But anyone who is advocating for military solutions is an idiot because they don't know how much the terrain features enable the Taliban to utterly dominate the NATO force there, to the point of complete supremacy over the situation. The US military can brag about drones and AC-130 all they want but there is no way they can clear the entire ridgelines and interior of the city simultaneously as fighters fire down on US forces below. Its a game of chicken and the US is correctly jumping out of the way.

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Well lucky for anyone stuck in Afghanistan, Tim pool knows how to defeat tyranny. Everyone should peacefully protest because fighting would be bad optics
Tim has a chronic case of sitting on the pot and not shitting. He lists all these things he sees and Bad, then poses the question "where do we go from here?"....and then answers with "I dunno man".

Sure Tim.
 
The movie was an attempted satire that failed because nobody outside of purists knew what was being satirized. Ironically, it sort of horseshoe theoried itself and wrapped all the way around to become a solid cheesy 90s action movie.
It seemed like a parody of antiwar films to me, but I'm an asshole.
 

"Please Evacuate"
Yeb Energy.

Trump was the one who made the deal to withdrawal from all US-held well-secured military bases with the Taliban last year; he even wanted the shorter deadline of May, rather than the end of August; see my post two pages ago. This is the same guy who withdrew US special forces from Kurdish-held parts of Northern Syria, supposedly 'to send the boys home' (and thus allowed Turkey and its Islamist Syrian rebel proxies to take over large chunks of Kurdish Syria), and yet at the same time had more US troops stationed to Saudi Arabia instead (to sabre rattle with Iran).

Baghram wouldn't have done any good. Its a couple dozen miles outside of Kabul and very easy to cut off. The only thing it would have been good for would be refueling before flying to into KAF and maybe as an evac point for anyone not in Kabul.
It was only good as a strike base.


Starship Troopers was primarily a treatise on the value of citizenship, and that your rights as a citizen should be commensurate with your duties to society. It was also a massive 'fuck you' to universal suffrage fetishists. It popularized the use of powered armor-equipped Mobile Infantry, to be later stolen by some English wargaming faggots and used to sell overpriced plastic miniatures, which they would go on to sue half the planet over.

Paul Verhoven, being a massive Dutch cocksucker, not only didn't read the book, he decided to intentionally torpedo the movie because 'MUH REICH WING SPACE NAZIS R ONLY GOOD FOR KILLING SPACE BUGS!'

OTOH, the ending to Starship Troopers 3 was absolutely amazing. And I say that as a Xtian.
 
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India is playing $930 million for training, simulations, ammunition and maintenance.
India buys most of its weapons from Soviet channels. So the $930 million is Helicopters, training, weapons, spare parts, and setting up new, sufficiently secure channels to deliver them to India, a country not known for holding to contracts. Plus you have to relocate mechanics to Poo Loo Aru.

Israel buys lots of American made weapons; the logistics for delivery already exists and the eternal jew pays its bills on time.
 
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That live stream gave me a wide panoramic shot of the city that I couldn't get until now and it showcases why I was so nervous initially when the US was corralled into the airport. If you pay attention, the airplanes are below the hills surrounding the airport. The airport has massive hills surrounding it and if the Taliban got into a pissing match with the US they could easily scope out the interior of the airport and use the hills to fire down into it with stuff like Anti-Tank Guided Missiles and with artillery pieces they've picked up from the ANA. Not to mention MANPAD the airplanes as they try taking off. Fortunately the Taliban just wants us to get the fuck out and leave so they haven't taken this route. But anyone who is advocating for military solutions is an idiot because they don't know how much the terrain features enable the Taliban to utterly dominate the NATO force there, to the point of complete supremacy over the situation. The US military can brag about drones and AC-130 all they want but there is no way they can clear the entire ridgelines and interior of the city simultaneously as fighters fire down on US forces below. Its a game of chicken and the US is correctly jumping out of the way.

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I'd assume the military C-17s and such have some defense/countermeasure to MANPADS but Civil Reverse Air Fleet doesn't have any of that. With those commercial aircraft activated and flying into Kabul it reminds me of a DHL flight in Baghdad. In 2003 a DHL cargo plane took off from Baghdad and was shot by a MANPAD, striking the wing. By some extreme poilting skills the pilots landed the plane safely. Who know if another situation like this could occur.
 
That live stream gave me a wide panoramic shot of the city that I couldn't get until now and it showcases why I was so nervous initially when the US was corralled into the airport. If you pay attention, the airplanes are below the hills surrounding the airport. The airport has massive hills surrounding it and if the Taliban got into a pissing match with the US they could easily scope out the interior of the airport and use the hills to fire down into it with stuff like Anti-Tank Guided Missiles and with artillery pieces they've picked up from the ANA. Not to mention MANPAD the airplanes as they try taking off. Fortunately the Taliban just wants us to get the fuck out and leave so they haven't taken this route. But anyone who is advocating for military solutions is an idiot because they don't know how much the terrain features enable the Taliban to utterly dominate the NATO force there, to the point of complete supremacy over the situation. The US military can brag about drones and AC-130 all they want but there is no way they can clear the entire ridgelines and interior of the city simultaneously as fighters fire down on US forces below. Its a game of chicken and the US is correctly jumping out of the way.

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I was arguing about this earlier and the boomer sentiment that "we got bigger guns" is pretty laughable. We can cope and seethe all we want about how mean and nasty the Taliban are but we can't do shit about it. They mentioned how we have all this cool technology and AC130's and we could totally do something and the Taliban couldn't stop us unti they make it abundantly clear that they could totally level the airport. The guy I was talking to was just so mad at how disgraceful it all was that they just clung to our big guns for some sense of control in the situation. They're just truly fucked though.
 
That fiasco is a great reminder why one should never shred something they want gone for good:
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https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/nsa/publications/iran/irdoc.html (archived: https://archive.ph/nSTkM)
Those documents were now available here: https://archive.org/details/DocumentsFromTheU.s.EspionageDen
Modern shredders reduce the paper to 1mm x 5mm particles. Those aren't getting taped back together. That doc looks like an old 1/32" shredder (1/4" x 1/8" was also authorized), and the emergency situation might have made it impossible to shred a secure volume, which always makes things easier for an adversary. There's really no ideal form of destruction in an emergency, all of them require some tending and have failure modes, but shredding (with a modern shredder) gives you an immediate assurance that what you put in won't be coming back.
 
I'd assume the military C-17s and such have some defense/countermeasure to MANPADS but Civil Reverse Air Fleet doesn't have any of that. With those commercial aircraft activated and flying into Kabul it reminds me of a DHL flight in Baghdad. In 2003 a DHL cargo plane took off from Baghdad and was shot by a MANPAD, striking the wing. By some extreme poilting skills the pilots landed the plane safely. Who know if another situation like this could occur.
At those short ranges you wouldn’t even need anything guided - you could hit targets with standard tank and anti-tank weapons.

cargo and transport planes are undefended af - they’re meant to hide behind the lines until it’s clear to do stuff.

and even fancy chaff defenses don’t do shit against unguided shells
 
Couldn't the Taliban set up mortars in the mountains around the airport and reign Hell down on the evacuating aircraft if they wanted to?
 
Couldn't the Taliban set up mortars in the mountains around the airport and reign Hell down on the evacuating aircraft if they wanted to?
Probably. They'd have to decide if it was worth the risk of tempting another invasion.

They've honestly shown great restraint through this entire thing (on camera anyway, which is the only place it matters).
 
Afghan migrants have a reputation of being rapist across europe, and yet it's baffling how politicians and activists still want to import thousands of them to their country.

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Be prepared, those rapefugees will coming to you.
How Western Europe hasn’t become an eternal prison riot fought along racial lines, I have no idea.
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Interesting take from the Taliban. I see this as the Taliban not trying to make an enemy with the average American and open a dialogue in a bizarre way regarding jews and their scheming (that I totally agree with, fuck the jews)

Based Talibs are our natural allies.
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The more memes I see, the more I see something like OKC or 9/11 being not a unifier, but the final catalyst before shit hits the fans and everything pops off, and violence becomes the norm all over America.
A little reminder that the eternally compassionate members of the Deep State hate your guts and want you to suffer for defying them:
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This is the former Spook-in-Chief (NSA & CIA) for Dubya who defended the CIA's use of black sites and torture to the Senate.
They’re really trying to find that Final Solution, aren’t they?
Someone said earlier that a lot of the outrage is coming from the globalist/NGO/cosmopolitan class, not so much because Afghanistan fell but because Kabul fell.

Kabul was a colony of the global managerial class, semi westernized, with top notch accommodations and imported sensibilities. Journalists, NGO “activists”, spooks, and businessmen that spent time in that city-considered it theirs, a New York becoming in Central Asia.

It makes sense, and betrays the deep fear of the urban decadent, that a dedicated rural insurgency might one day storm Paris or London or New York City or DC. So in some ways, they aren’t wrong to see trump supporters as “the American Taliban” in the city-countryside struggle they are much the same.
And 1/6 was the last time this so called “Anerican Taliban” made a move. And look where it got them: adherents imprisoned doing the IRA’s “we’re not criminals, we’re political prisoners” but without all the protests and hunger strikes, Trump purged from media and in a de facto exile, and protocols that seem to be nothing but a Petri dish to see what from the heights of 2020 the people in charge can still get away with. Sure /pol/ can call the Taliban “based” because they share a common enemy, but it ain’t like we’re seeing hooligan throw downs, prison riots, The Troubles, or any real violence worth a damn anytime soon in the US and Western Europe, despite how much of an erection it gives so many on the right.
Our status as THE global superpower ended by a bunch of goat fuckers. I love the merge.
And China will now proceed to make the rest of the world its bitch. And the decision to start with someone other than America to bend over and sodomize with a drill will be the hardest decision the CCP will ever make.
Remember guys. The adults are in charge now. Remember that line from the election? The adults of course being our institutional government.

A national security apparatus that was wrong on every major thing, from 9-11, to WMDs in Iraq, the rise of China and everything else.

A political establishment that has shoveled TRILLIONS of dollars into this boondoggle and directed this shit show

A diplomatic establishment that just detonated our military alliances with this shit. We didn't even have the Good grace to let the British know ahead of time we were going to abandon Bagram. I would be shocked if the United Kingdom ever works with America again on anything.

But the final cherry on this shit cake is the defense department that. never mind it just lost a war, it is going to leave THOUSANDS of US citizens to the tender mercies of the fucking Taliban. A catastrophic failure of its primary duty.

These are the adults in the room.

Guys....I think they were lying to us the whole time!
Just wait for names to come out, someone revealed to be MAGA, and whole lot will be written off as undesirables to be purged. You know it’s coming.
The Pax Americana is over. The time when we could go to third-world countries and tell people "work for us, inform for us, we'll keep you safe" and have them believe us is gone, completely, and it will impact our intelligence and military operations for decades. Trust that has been broken this badly cannot be repaired. Everyone who helps America knows that they could spend the last moments of their lives in a shit-filled canal until a bomber blows them to smithereens.
And now we see the rise of the CCP dynasty, looking to reign for 100 years at minimum.
Is this how soviet citizens felt? The lies have become all pervasive at this point.
No clue. But I’m willing to bet there was a shitload of hopelessness over just being a worthless ant in the eyes of The State and there’s no real chance for change unless people kick the bucket.
 
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