Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[Excited Eraser]

See this cracks me up. Why does PT think it’s ok to perpetuate these stereotypes of femininity (housewife baking cake)? Idk. Isn’t that what the kids call ‚toxic‘ nowadays, playing off of these stereotypes? But if a troon does it, it’s woke and acceptable. To quote yet another troon, ‚make it make sense.‘

It not making sense is the point. Troons basically try to destroy categories by destroying language.

Spoiler: Queer theory sperging

All of this crap originated with 'queer theory' in the 90s, with the end goal of destroying meaning in language so categories become meaningless too. Troons are the ultimate 'queers' so they can just use any language they want and it automatically makes sense. Because of that bigotry is impossible, or so goes the theory anyway. I doubt Ollie knows anything about it despite calling himself a philosopher.

It's also why it's directly opposed to feminism which, while having a similar authoritarian streak regarding language, is actually pro-categorization. To a feminist, a young girl wearing boy clothes and playing with toy cars is still just as much a girl as the one playing with barbies. While the trans-cult immediately classifies the first as a 'trans boy' and then forces schools, teachers and students to change the child's name, gender and pronouns, bathroom privileges and pretend it's only ever been a boy. And all without telling the parents, of course.

 

[aanoo]

I can’t quote you @AfghanBlue, but I feel like PT would run in fear from Kathy Burke. Apart from how she might react to his weird fetishistic presentation (I think she publicly called out Jessica Yaniv), he would probably spontaneously combust if he had to interact with a Northern working class woman unless they were serving him in a bar in St Andrews. x10000 if he didn’t want to fuck them…

 

[AssignedEva]

I can’t quote you @AfghanBlue, but I feel like PT would run in fear from Kathy Burke. Apart from how she might react to his weird fetishistic presentation (I think she publicly called out Jessica Yaniv), he would probably spontaneously combust if he had to interact with a Northern working class woman unless they were serving him in a bar in St Andrews. x10000 if he didn’t want to fuck them…

I agree, although Kathy Burke's a cockney.

Pretty sure if he had Kathy Burke on he'd try and be Patsy (and then fail miserably).

 

[Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r]

I really hate this pic of him, I feel like I'm about to be molested. Although I guess I'm safe as long as I don't wake up as ContraPoints tomorrow.

I don't know what's scarier, getting molested by PT or waking up as ContraPoints.

 

[AfghanBlue]

I agree, although Kathy Burke's a cockney.

Pretty sure if he had Kathy Burke on he'd try and be Patsy (and then fail miserably).

kathy burke is indeed a cockney, apart from a sweet story in which she used to go up to see her family in manchester over summer as a kid, and used to always return with a manchester accent, until it was ridiculed away after a month or so back south. it’s where the idea for the kevin and perry sketch where perry rocks up sounding like liam gallagher came from.
bout to find meself that Janiv call out,
@aanoo !

it wouldn’t have even fucking occurred to him to ask any such mentioned person, let alone KB.
such self serving people only manage to exist by not allowing any mental space for others, it’s why their content is so mind numbingly myopic.

what makes no sense is how/why other simpers travel that route with them.

Spoiler: comedy sperg

ed- watching that AbFab clip is sad the same way watching old simpsons eps is. It reminds me of a time when working class people actually had a chance to succeed before drowning in a sea of ollies who could wait them out in being able to survive in an industry and a country which now requires you work for free or hand to mouth for years- family money made off of the same Tory polices which destroyed any arts access for young average people.

the last few most recent working class kids who did anything in comedy was the This Country pair, and it was a breath of fresh air being a genuinely funny comedy.

not to say i hate posh people- Phoebe waller bridge for example is fucking class, but for every fleabag there’s reams of absolute self indulgent piss poor dross.

interestingly there was some Guardian arictle a few years back, very badly received, some bint trying to slate Fleabag as a comedy because like,,her dads house was nice and his garden was big, and how this meant the common man could find no enjoyment in this bewildering landscape he couldn’t understand. Little did she realise the politics of resentment are very close drawn quarters, and most people are so far away from such things that they are able to enjoy them for the pieces of art they are, rather than scheming about how desperately close yet far they personally are, from having a nice Aga WITH the south facing garden in THAT catchment area.. etc etc.
the twitter replies were all people laughing like fuck at the idea that cos they were from a council estate in hull they were supposed to be seething with rage distracted from the story. cos you know… it had a story. it wasn’t *just* a boring laundry list of someone’s overwrought adolescence as the drying well of their inspiration that were supposed to find relatable.
the whole social media decade has been big media thinking that we need ‘relatability’ at the expense of literally everything of substance else, however:

noone (should,fairly) care that you’re posh, as long as your not shit.
that guardian writer clearly doesn’t care how shit you are, as long as your class ‘signalling’ is sufficiently faux self deprecatingly awkward.

which is why we’ve had such a rise in absolute horse shit comedies of awkwardness- particularly with female comedians, for example Sarah Pascos weird sit com- also that american girl? who seem to take the insufferable male genre of “I’m such a dickhead!” and try and impersonate it as a “i’m a woman dickhead! wow”.
dickhead genres like that fucking awful current bbc shite sitcom with the american(?) cerebral palsy guy. so sick of seeing people think being a dick is comedy.
Lad hood, feat Olly as Ian, also has a bit of this although it tries to be self reflexive. which although slightly more welcome is still extremely boring. No one cares to be your fucking counsellor. if you can’t make us laugh, then fuck off out of the comedy budget, tarquin. i also really can’t be arsed to see you try and make the most of wearing adidas as a 14 year old and how that makes you a working class hero.

 

[Jah Hates Kaffirs]

I don't know what's scarier, getting molested by PT or waking up as ContraPoints.

The two are one and the same.

 

[Pinga]

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lmao "but but but- i need to apply for a gender certificate if I end up finding someone willing to marry me!! And I can't perv on those evil cis women because I have to go to separate gender clinics for hormones!!!!!! And there are trannies that aren't me that are poor!!!!!!! I am clearly the most oppressed victim on the planet and still the Trans Princess of Terf Island!!!!!!!"
Aren't most AGPs upper/upper-middle class anyway?
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Disproportianetely living in poverty. Jee, maybe a part of the population that is confirmed to be batshit insane is also not great at handling money or keeping a job.

What do you still want from us Oliver? Next to coveting our spaces we need to give you our money too.

Well of course we know you're not shy of accepting hand-outs. What a disgusting grifter.

 

[Tombigbee]

Must have been a real interesting period just before his “egg cracked.” Oh to have been a fly on the wall. Interesting he chooses “manic” as a descriptor. I can only imagine the insanity.

 

[deso2y]

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Must have been a real interesting period just before his “egg cracked.” Oh to have been a fly on the wall. Interesting he chooses “manic” as a descriptor. I can only imagine the insanity.

He is seriously delusional, between thinking he was once a jacked chad and thinking he is a dainty beautiful laydee now whose career depends on her beauty and slim figure, I would not say self perception is his forte

 

[Tombigbee]

For those of you who skip his live streams, here’s a sampling of a recent one. The tongue protrusions alone are nightmare inducing.

 

[AntiStan23]

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Must have been a real interesting period just before his “egg cracked.” Oh to have been a fly on the wall. Interesting he chooses “manic” as a descriptor. I can only imagine the insanity.

when i was still a chad and fucked a lot of ladies, i was soooo jacked, man, i think i was the most jacked guy on earth. And all the directors, producers and casting agents in the world knew me for being ‚Chad’, the jacked dude, that all the ladies admired. And my gf back then was really into me being jacked rofl. We had a lot of steamy sex back then. And i was soooo hypomanic, even more hypomanic than Contrapoints. I worked out night and day, in between my gf muscle worshipping me. And after my troon egg cracked, i became the thinnest, most ladylike tranner of em all. Gee, i‘m so thin, they are all worried i have an eating disorder. I have massive problems eating on camera, thanks patriarchy! I could barely bring myself to eat a slice of cake. What‘s a gal to do?

wooooaaaah lads, i hit the trashcan like a fucking chad!

 

[fax machine]

where is the jack though

 

[AssignedEva]

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Must have been a real interesting period just before his “egg cracked.” Oh to have been a fly on the wall. Interesting he chooses “manic” as a descriptor. I can only imagine the insanity.

In the gym twice a day sounds impressive until you realise he meant sometimes he did a 15 minute session on the elliptical in the morning and then occasionally did a 10 minute session on the exercise bikes in the evening

 

[Rekkington]

He is seriously delusional, between thinking he was once a jacked chad and thinking he is a dainty beautiful laydee now whose career depends on her beauty and slim figure, I would not say self perception is his forte

Trannies often have this delusion or possibly a cope that when they were a man they were super masculine and cool, often ladykillers that the female race is mourning the loss of. Then of course they morph into lady killers.

 

[deso2y]

Trannies often have this delusion or possibly a cope that when they were a man they were super masculine and cool, often ladykillers that the female race is mourning the loss of. Then of course they morph into lady killers.

I think it stems from comparing their current status within the hierarchy of their true and honest gender vs their old status in the dating world, that's probably why it's always troonbians (AKA AGPs) who are spewing this nonsense even if they have only had a grand total of 1 girlfriend through their life before trooning out.

 

[AfghanBlue]

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where is the jack though

maybe he just means jacking off.
no joke i bet PT lubes the tube about forty times a day.
what happens to your dick when you start taking estrogen? surely nothing good?

 

[esmeggs]

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Imagine thinking "I was some cheaters sidepiece" is a flex. Something actually worth bragging about would be being numerous women's lesbian/bisexual awakening. Oh wait-

Again, not quite the flex he thinks it is.

 

[Rose_of_Troon]

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Imagine thinking "I was some cheaters sidepiece" is a flex. Something actually worth bragging about would be being numerous women's lesbian/bisexual awakening. Oh wait-
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Again, not quite the flex he thinks it is.

Not a flex, but rather proof PT was always a women in their opinion.

 

[esmeggs]

Not a flex, but rather proof PT was always a women in their opinion.

It's a slight brag though, "3 of my exes exclusively date women now so therefore they all picked up on me being a trutrans woman years and years ago". As if (1) they all knew he'd develop AGP, (2) they're attracted to AGPs, and (3) it isn't much more likely that he was just a terrible boyfriend.

Also men love to brag about sleeping with "lesbians", and half of the things that come out of Olly's mouth are attempts at bragging.

 

[Rekkington]

It's a slight brag though, "3 of my exes exclusively date women now so therefore they all picked up on me being a trutrans woman years and years ago". As if (1) they all knew he'd develop AGP, (2) they're attracted to AGPs, and (3) it isn't much more likely that he was just a terrible boyfriend.

Also men love to brag about sleeping with "lesbians", and half of the things that come out of Olly's mouth are attempts at bragging.

Men don't care about lesbians the way women wish they did, especially lesbians. Gay men fetishize turning straight men (especially young ones,) lesbians fucking obsess about converting women and often speak of it like recruitment, but I've never seen straight men really ever give a shit about lesbians aside from liking seeing hot women kiss sometimes. But even that is seen more as a marker of "these are sluts they'll do anything." I think this secretly bothers lesbians.