The Michael Jackson Documentary That Shook the World Has Vanished - Slate magazine broken-clocking it in review of "Leaving Neverland" sequel

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The Michael Jackson Documentary That Shook the World Has Vanished​


The sequel to Leaving Neverland is here, but the original is nowhere in sight.​


When Leaving Neverland premiered on HBO a little over six years ago, the two-part, four-hour documentary sparked a long-overdue reckoning with the legacy of Michael Jackson. Composed largely of interviews with two men, Wade Robson and James Safechuck, who say that Jackson repeatedly sexually abused them when they were children, the movie seemed to be the tipping point after nearly three decades of rumors, investigations, and out-of-court settlements, prompting a flood of media coverage that included more than a dozen articles in Slate alone. The #MeToo movement had, it seemed, inaugurated a cultural sea change. The rich and famous were no longer considered innocent by default, and their accusers were not immediately suspect. We would never see MJ the same way again.

Leaving Neverland 2: Surviving Michael Jackson, director Dan Reed’s sequel to his bombshell documentary, was released on Tuesday. But this time, it was greeted with virtual silence. Whereas the first movie premiered at the Sundance Film Festival to a room packed with journalists, the second simply popped up on YouTube, less than a month after the entertainment industry trades broke the news of its existence. As of midafternoon Friday, it had 38,000 views.

At a little over 53 minutes, Leaving Neverland 2 is more of an update than a self-contained work, mostly covering Robson and Safechuck’s attempts to pursue legal action against Jackson’s estate in the years since the first movie aired. But if you’re looking to refresh your memory of the original film, you’ll have to make do with the new one’s brief excerpts, because Leaving Neverland effectively no longer exists, at least in the U.S. Relying on a nondisparagement clause in a deal to air a 1992 concert, Jackson’s estate sued HBO for breach of contract, and after five years in court, the network agreed to a settlement that included permanently removing the movie from its Max streaming platform; although Leaving Neverland was released on DVD, the disc is now out of print, and a used copy is nearly $100 on eBay. (In an unexpected twist, you can still stream the film in the U.K., where plaintiff-friendly libel laws usually make it much more difficult to report on public figures, and the second part was broadcast on Channel 4 this week.) MJ, the stage musical based on Jackson’s life, was nominated for 10 Tonys and is now in its fourth year on Broadway; the Cirque du Soleil spectacle set to his music is still running in Las Vegas; and a Hollywood biopic, directed by Training Day’s Antoine Fuqua, has already been filmed, though its release date is uncertain. #MeToo has become #NeverMind.

On its own, Leaving Neverland 2 is, unfortunately, not much to speak of. At Sundance, Reed said that he shot interviews with attorneys on both sides of the case but opted not to use them, focusing exclusively on Robson, Safechuck, and the families. In the sequel, lawyers take center stage. Vince Finaldi and John Manly, whose California practice specializes in civil litigation related to sexual abuse, ably guide us through the basis of their lawsuit, which alleges that the companies Jackson formed to manage his affairs should be held liable for his actions even after his death. But while they convey a sense of dedication to the cause, they can’t be as compelling as Jackson’s alleged victims themselves.

For years, Jackson and his representatives, both legal and public, have argued that his accusers are motivated solely by the desire for money. (The Hollywood biopic is reportedly mired in legal issues because its third act depicts the family of Jordan Chandler, the then-13-year-old who accused Jackson of sexual abuse in 1993, as money-grubbing opportunists.) And they’ve pointed to the fact that Robson and Safechuck both defended Jackson in court. Leaving Neverland devotes a good chunk of its length to explaining why they lied under oath, and although the sequel repeats that explanation in truncated form, it takes time to walk an audience through the emotional logic of defending your alleged abuser, time this brief addendum doesn’t have. As for being in it for the money: With Jackson dead, there aren’t many avenues for justice available to his alleged victims except for the monetary rewards of a civil judgment and the attendant public vindication. And even if their motivations are financial, his estate’s seem unlikely to be less so—especially since megastars like Jackson are most profitable when they’re reinjected into the culture over and over again, and that’s a lot harder to do when the good feelings associated with their songs become associated with a toxic personal brand.

That’s why the most fascinating part of Leaving Neverland 2 has almost nothing to do with Robson and Safechuck. After years of failing to get an on-camera response from Jackson’s estate or his family, Reed turns instead to his fans, who are as much the guardians of his legacy as anyone who holds the rights. Most take Jackson’s side, of course, with one suggesting that Leaving Neverland, which went to almost unbearable lengths to describe when and how Jackson allegedly abused his victims, didn’t go into enough specifics to be convincing. (A clearly stunned Reed asks, off camera, “That wasn’t detailed enough for you?”) But one, a middle-aged Black man identified only as “Z,” says that watching the original documentary set him on a path of questioning and reinvestigating everything he thought he knew. And when he dug around, he says, “I didn’t like what I saw.” It’s a reminder of how powerful the impact of Leaving Neverland was, and of how ominous it is that, at a time when media access is under the near-total control of streaming conglomerates, it’s possible for a movie of such historic and cultural importance to simply disappear.
 
Surprised I missed this thread. Jacko has been my sacred cow since I was a widdle girl. I loved those whacko Jacko antics.

Onto why this happened. The Jacko estate sued HBO and won. The lawsuit has been ongoing for six years. Leaving Neverland was deplatformed for this reason. There are already many documentaries about whacko Jacko molesting boys, several made when he was still alive though. This isn't ever going to be swept under the rug.
 
Surprised I missed this thread. Jacko has been my sacred cow since I was a widdle girl. I loved those whacko Jacko antics.

Onto why this happened. The Jacko estate sued HBO and won. The lawsuit has been ongoing for six years. Leaving Neverland was deplatformed for this reason. There are already many documentaries about whacko Jacko molesting boys, several made when he was still alive though. This isn't ever going to be swept under the rug.
"deplatformed"

"available on every torrent site and probably youtube"

are zoomers retarded?
 
A gargantuan amount of smoke for there to be no fire. Most likely the consequence of horrific childhood abuse at the hands of his father. He's a tragic figure. Utterly unmatched musically.
Prince, David Bowie, Mozart, Pachelbel, Beethoven, Stevie Wonder, Johnny Cash, ect. I had a conversation with my gf last night about this. She said there will never be another Prince or M.J. and I was going to agree but I honestly believe we would see more very talented people be discovered if music labels didn't look at artists as money signs and as really good musicians that should have their music be shared with everyone.

They come and go, but we're unfortuantely in a shit situation where nothing but garbage is shoveled down everyone's throat, and it seems these days to actually breakout from the shitty record labels you may aswell start your own, push your music while signing others you find talented. I'm not saying M.J. wasn't an amazingly talented artist and showman, I'm just saying great artist have existed before him and others will come after him, we're just in music hell at the moment.

Anyway, that's the way I look at, I just found it strange her and I were talking about this last night, especially M.J., and I figured I'd just say my piece.

I'm not too familiar with OJ's case, but I'm pretty sure there wasn't an audio recording of someone stating outright that they planned to falsely accuse him of a heinous crime.
1. He did it.
2. Cochrane turned the trial into a circus.
3. He was only found not guilty because the niggers on the jury thought it was their way of getting back at the waycist system after Rodney King got rightfully beaten to a pulp. Oh and also L.A. feared there would be another and worse riot of he was found guilty. Start at 1:26 of the video.


Rest In Piss you absolute piece of shit. Not only does the nigger get off, later he goes to prison for burglary. Obvious signs the faggot should have been executed via firing squad.

I haven't seen the pictures of the crime, but apparently he was so vicious murdering his wife that she was practically decapitated, as in the only thing keeping her head on her body was a the skin.
 
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I think it was just another in a series of cosmic misfortunes. Have a guy with crippling self-image issues then make him famous, give him a rough puberty, give him vitiligo, why not give him an accident that burns his scalp and renders him bald.
His death was as almond-activating as Epstein's though.


I thought it was his actual hair, I assumed he didn't immediately feel it because with an afro it takes longer for the heat to reach the scalp.
Looking at the video again, it does look like his real hair. His hair catches fire as he's standing at the top of some stairs and quickly engulfs the top of his head. by the time he gets to the bottom of the stairs there was someone with a fire extinguisher who puts the fire on his head out. As he's being walked off the set, you can see a large bald spot on the top of his head.
 
OJ Simpson was also found not guilty.
OJ Simpson confessed to what he did.


Michael Jackson always maintained his innocence
As Chris Rock said, "Another kid? That's how much we love Michael, we let the first kid slide."
I love Chris Rock and I think he's funny, but he's always been a little fucked up on the whole Michael Jackson thing.

I'm not sure whether Michael really was a paedophile or not. But are four grifters really the best accusers we can find?
 
"deplatformed"

"available on every torrent site and probably youtube"

are zoomers retarded?

Not a zoomer, but the documentary was removed from all major streaming services which was a blow. It's still online, yes, if you search on duckduckgo you can find it for free. But the estate wanted to make it all go away.

They've been trying to clean up Whacko Jacko's image since 2009 (the day he died a PR campaign started). So he could be repromoted again.
 
Not a zoomer, but the documentary was removed from all major streaming services which was a blow. It's still online, yes, if you search on duckduckgo you can find it for free. But the estate wanted to make it all go away.

They've been trying to clean up Whacko Jacko's image since 2009 (the day he died a PR campaign started). So he could be repromoted again.
They probably removed it because it was defamatory on its face. They cut an hour out of the thing when it aired here in the UK because that entire hour was provably fucking false.

And a guy who claims he perjured himself to protect Michael Jackson has serious fucking credibility problems. Either he was lying then or he's lying now. Either way.
 
They probably removed it because it was defamatory on its face. They cut an hour out of the thing when it aired here in the UK because that entire hour was provably fucking false.

And a guy who claims he perjured himself to protect Michael Jackson has serious fucking credibility problems. Either he was lying then or he's lying now. Either way.

Wade may have taken money from Jacko to lie for him on the stand. I suspect that is the real reason he lied. Not that he "couldn't bare the thought of him rotting in jail". Jacko had his "boys" even when grown up still on his payroll with paychecks sent out to them from his company MJJ productions. Many would go to work for him as adults. The rumors are that they were still fucking him in their 20's despite claims that he "completely abandoned them when they entered puberty".
 
If he gotten some money from MJ he would have said that in his new lawsuit , that would have been more than enough proof, he didn't because it didn't happened. At the time Wade was successful, he only came up with the accusations when heneeded the money ( he was broke at the time)
 
I actually saw the first Leaving Neverland on Youtube shortly after it became available. It wasn't even that hard to find a link that hadn't been nuked yet. And I could find it now if I wanted to by sailing the high seas. I hate how these journos act like if it's not available to stream or buy it's non-existent. Although I guess they may have to say that because otherwise it will look like they are promoting piracy. Anyone who spends $100 for the DVD needs a 24/7 tard minder.

I'm still on the fence about Michael. I want to believe that he loved children because he didn't get to have a childhood of his own. He was emotionally stunted and had tons of money to throw around at his peak. It was like a kid at the carnival. And he made his life a carnival. The tabloid rags were relentless. Every week you'd see a "Whacko Jacko" headline, sometimes in relation to Elizabeth Taylor, on the Star, Globe or Enquirer. Star was probably the least awful (and that's not saying much). The Globe was practically Weekly World News in terms of credibility. And The Enquirer was bottom feeder trash with some of the scummiest journos in the business. Even as a kid I'd read my mom's tabloids and wonder "Is any of this for real?"

It must have felt really bad to see yourself in the rags all the time like that. MJ really went off the deep end towards the end. But it begs the question was he born that way or did the media mold him into the monster they wanted him to become? Dangling the baby off the balcony and all that. That seemed a far cry from his early days.

Did MJ ever sue the rags? So many celebrities did that I lost track. I read that Layne Staley once mailed a jar of urine to a journo that pissed him off.
 
I consider it a point in MJ's favor that the Culkins (not just Macaulay, but Kieran and some of the other siblings who stayed at Neverland) and Corey Feldman have consistently maintained that they were never molested by him. Finding Neverland implies that M. Culkin must have been molested as a matter of course given his closeness to Jacko, but Culkin has always steadfastly denied it. Maybe he has professional or personal reasons for covering it all up, but I've always found him credible.

Not to mention the fact that Wade Robson testified during the 2005 trial that MJ had never molested him. He was either lying then (under oath!) or he's lying now. At any rate, it's interesting that all of these kids who slept over with MJ (Safechuck, Robson, the Culkins) turned out to be relatively normal, heterosexual dudes with stable family lives. (Feldman is a mess, but I don't think you can blame MJ for that one.) You figure at least one of them would have taken the sodomite pill after being buggered by the King of Pop.
I remember that Jarvis Cocker acted up in front of Michael Jackson at the Brits back in the 1990s, and went along with the whole 'oh yeah, Michael Jackson is definitely a pervy weirdo' spiel.

i just wonder how many skeletons are in his closet, he always looks and comes across as some kind of sexual weirdo.
 
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