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The Michael Jackson Documentary That Shook the World Has Vanished​


The sequel to Leaving Neverland is here, but the original is nowhere in sight.​


When Leaving Neverland premiered on HBO a little over six years ago, the two-part, four-hour documentary sparked a long-overdue reckoning with the legacy of Michael Jackson. Composed largely of interviews with two men, Wade Robson and James Safechuck, who say that Jackson repeatedly sexually abused them when they were children, the movie seemed to be the tipping point after nearly three decades of rumors, investigations, and out-of-court settlements, prompting a flood of media coverage that included more than a dozen articles in Slate alone. The #MeToo movement had, it seemed, inaugurated a cultural sea change. The rich and famous were no longer considered innocent by default, and their accusers were not immediately suspect. We would never see MJ the same way again.

Leaving Neverland 2: Surviving Michael Jackson, director Dan Reed’s sequel to his bombshell documentary, was released on Tuesday. But this time, it was greeted with virtual silence. Whereas the first movie premiered at the Sundance Film Festival to a room packed with journalists, the second simply popped up on YouTube, less than a month after the entertainment industry trades broke the news of its existence. As of midafternoon Friday, it had 38,000 views.

At a little over 53 minutes, Leaving Neverland 2 is more of an update than a self-contained work, mostly covering Robson and Safechuck’s attempts to pursue legal action against Jackson’s estate in the years since the first movie aired. But if you’re looking to refresh your memory of the original film, you’ll have to make do with the new one’s brief excerpts, because Leaving Neverland effectively no longer exists, at least in the U.S. Relying on a nondisparagement clause in a deal to air a 1992 concert, Jackson’s estate sued HBO for breach of contract, and after five years in court, the network agreed to a settlement that included permanently removing the movie from its Max streaming platform; although Leaving Neverland was released on DVD, the disc is now out of print, and a used copy is nearly $100 on eBay. (In an unexpected twist, you can still stream the film in the U.K., where plaintiff-friendly libel laws usually make it much more difficult to report on public figures, and the second part was broadcast on Channel 4 this week.) MJ, the stage musical based on Jackson’s life, was nominated for 10 Tonys and is now in its fourth year on Broadway; the Cirque du Soleil spectacle set to his music is still running in Las Vegas; and a Hollywood biopic, directed by Training Day’s Antoine Fuqua, has already been filmed, though its release date is uncertain. #MeToo has become #NeverMind.

On its own, Leaving Neverland 2 is, unfortunately, not much to speak of. At Sundance, Reed said that he shot interviews with attorneys on both sides of the case but opted not to use them, focusing exclusively on Robson, Safechuck, and the families. In the sequel, lawyers take center stage. Vince Finaldi and John Manly, whose California practice specializes in civil litigation related to sexual abuse, ably guide us through the basis of their lawsuit, which alleges that the companies Jackson formed to manage his affairs should be held liable for his actions even after his death. But while they convey a sense of dedication to the cause, they can’t be as compelling as Jackson’s alleged victims themselves.

For years, Jackson and his representatives, both legal and public, have argued that his accusers are motivated solely by the desire for money. (The Hollywood biopic is reportedly mired in legal issues because its third act depicts the family of Jordan Chandler, the then-13-year-old who accused Jackson of sexual abuse in 1993, as money-grubbing opportunists.) And they’ve pointed to the fact that Robson and Safechuck both defended Jackson in court. Leaving Neverland devotes a good chunk of its length to explaining why they lied under oath, and although the sequel repeats that explanation in truncated form, it takes time to walk an audience through the emotional logic of defending your alleged abuser, time this brief addendum doesn’t have. As for being in it for the money: With Jackson dead, there aren’t many avenues for justice available to his alleged victims except for the monetary rewards of a civil judgment and the attendant public vindication. And even if their motivations are financial, his estate’s seem unlikely to be less so—especially since megastars like Jackson are most profitable when they’re reinjected into the culture over and over again, and that’s a lot harder to do when the good feelings associated with their songs become associated with a toxic personal brand.

That’s why the most fascinating part of Leaving Neverland 2 has almost nothing to do with Robson and Safechuck. After years of failing to get an on-camera response from Jackson’s estate or his family, Reed turns instead to his fans, who are as much the guardians of his legacy as anyone who holds the rights. Most take Jackson’s side, of course, with one suggesting that Leaving Neverland, which went to almost unbearable lengths to describe when and how Jackson allegedly abused his victims, didn’t go into enough specifics to be convincing. (A clearly stunned Reed asks, off camera, “That wasn’t detailed enough for you?”) But one, a middle-aged Black man identified only as “Z,” says that watching the original documentary set him on a path of questioning and reinvestigating everything he thought he knew. And when he dug around, he says, “I didn’t like what I saw.” It’s a reminder of how powerful the impact of Leaving Neverland was, and of how ominous it is that, at a time when media access is under the near-total control of streaming conglomerates, it’s possible for a movie of such historic and cultural importance to simply disappear.
 
I don't know why people keep making reference to "the first trial" etc., he only ever went on trial once.

And his autopsy report was released after his death. His genitalia were intact and unremarkable.

@Yamaha YM2612 fuck off dipshit.
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I've never looked into this closely but I wanted to add my gen X two cents.

A bunch of people here are asking where these accusations even came from. I don't remember *ever* not hearing them. It was a standard piece of pre-internet gossip about Jackson. I remember hearing the kmart joke in the 80s.

about the innocence of his behavior. let's just assume that he actually was incapable of adult sexual feelings and actions. regardless this attitude is insane:




I enjoy the company of children. I don't offer large amounts of money to parents in order to spend time alone with them. He didn't simply enjoy playing with kids, he enjoyed having children over at his house, in an environment under his total control, away from their parents and any oversight.

This is abusive *even if there was no sexual content whatsoever.* Michael Jackson was clearly not a functional responsible adult and allowing children to be in his care is wrong. He was wrong to ask for it and the parents were wrong to allow it.

the question of did bad touch actually happen really distracts people from the fundamental fucked upness of the situation. it's very scary to children when they know that adults are basically oriented to something other than their safety. Jackson was not oriented to the children's safety, he was a grown up child who just wanted to play. The parents were oriented to the money and the closeness to fame. that must have been so disturbing and frightening for the children, under the attractions of all the fun and special experiences Jackson was able to provide would have been this sick undercurrent of them being objects, even if not sexual ones.
This is a great post, most people would agree with you. However none of this responds to the question. Nobody thinks Michael was a sane person. Nobody approves of his friendships with children, particularly after his career ended the way it ended. The question is did he touch or fuck the boys, and since you are innocent until proven guilty, and the evidence for his guilt being shit the conclusion is no, he didn't touch or fuck those kids. He was a weirdo with bad judjement and nobody told him to knock it off.

The issue most people have is the default position of guilty people have with MJ. People really, really want him to be a pedo. "He slept with children in his bed" That never happened, he had sleepovers with children in his bedroom which was two stories, three bathrooms and multiple beds. Is that weird? Yes, but thats the equivalent of having a kid stay over at your house. A two story bedroom is a house for most people. It's more salacious to say bedroom. "The were able to describe what his penis looked like" No, it's the exact opposite. They made a claim and it turned out to be false. Anyone saying that outs themselves as not looking into anything about the case because that was the biggest insult to Michael Jackson at the time which was his penis had to be shown to a jury to disprove the claims that he already felt were ridiculous.

Nobody ever addresses the rebuttals to the bad evidence that gets brought up.
 
Dave Chappelle's bit on Michael is great.


I don't know where it is, but in one special, he does basically that whole bit and then ends it with "would I let my son sleep with Michael Jackson? Eww fuck no". And that's basically what I feel. Michael did a lot of inappropriate stuff. Not really convinced that he diddled anyone though.

Idk only Michael, God and that little boy know the truth.
 
Cory Haim who spent a lot of time with MJ is on record saying he was the only one who didn't try to diddle him.
Why would MJ have wanted to molest another child star who'd had the same fucked up life as him? That's not innnocence, that's not a normal kid, that's not carefree. I don't think he'd have sought victims from within the lifestyle he hated so much.

@KiwiFuzz2 I can't believe people can look at that face and think he was still human and didn't rape anybody.
 
I've never looked into this closely but I wanted to add my gen X two cents.

A bunch of people here are asking where these accusations even came from. I don't remember *ever* not hearing them. It was a standard piece of pre-internet gossip about Jackson. I remember hearing the kmart joke in the 80s.

about the innocence of his behavior. let's just assume that he actually was incapable of adult sexual feelings and actions. regardless this attitude is insane:




I enjoy the company of children. I don't offer large amounts of money to parents in order to spend time alone with them. He didn't simply enjoy playing with kids, he enjoyed having children over at his house, in an environment under his total control, away from their parents and any oversight.

This is abusive *even if there was no sexual content whatsoever.* Michael Jackson was clearly not a functional responsible adult and allowing children to be in his care is wrong. He was wrong to ask for it and the parents were wrong to allow it.

the question of did bad touch actually happen really distracts people from the fundamental fucked upness of the situation. it's very scary to children when they know that adults are basically oriented to something other than their safety. Jackson was not oriented to the children's safety, he was a grown up child who just wanted to play. The parents were oriented to the money and the closeness to fame. that must have been so disturbing and frightening for the children, under the attractions of all the fun and special experiences Jackson was able to provide would have been this sick undercurrent of them being objects, even if not sexual ones.

I agree with your belief wholeheartedly, it was a messed-up situation with a severely traumatized and alienated man-child, but just because he shouldn’t have been hanging out with kids as if he was one himself doesn’t mean he actually committed any crimes, and I think that’s where people get lost in the weeds. They want to punish him because he was weird and “probably” did something, but from my understanding there was little to no evidence he ever did anything actually illegal…
 
I would highly recommend watching Square One, the documentary I posted above. The allegations were fabricated by a failed musician who wanted to ride the coattails of a close family friend to fame. Evan Chandler fabricated the whole story. At one point, he was getting so unhinged that his ex-wife started recording phone calls with him. There is an audio recording of Chandler saying that he was going to accuse Michael of molesting his son. It cannot be overstated just how much of a vile, repulsive monster Evan Chandler was.

Jordan Chandler has never spoken publicly about Michael Jackson. His allegations are what every other """""victim's""""" allegations are based on. No other """"""victim"""""" has been able to provide any factual information beyond the information he provided about Jackson's estate. He was a close family friend of the Chandlers. Jordan stayed over at Michael's place, but Michael also stayed over at the Chandler house many times.

Something worth pointing out is that Michael Jackson's bedroom was massive. It had 2 stories and 3 bathrooms iirc. When someone says they were in Michael's bedroom, you need to keep that in mind. They weren't curled up in the same tiny bed.

For whatever fucked up reason, people desperately want to believe Michael Jackson was a child molester. He wasn't. He was a genuinely wonderful person who was taken advantage of and extorted by an incredibly vindictive and putrid cunt named Evan Chandler. There were so many grifters who tried claim they or their children were hurt by Michael. Most of them were weeded out early on, but Robson and Safechuck have managed to stick around.
This just sounds like a run-of-the-mill #MeToo situation. Disgusting that this kind of shit has been normalized by this point.
This is exactly what happened. I think it's probably hard for anyone under 30 to really understand how MASSIVE of a star MJ was and they simply couldn't afford him telling too much truth about kikes so they had to destroy his credibility.

Imagine the celebrity level of Taylor Swift and multiply it by 100 - now imagine what they would do to Taylor if she started talking about her experiences with kikes.
We don't need to imagine anything. Look how they went after Kanye after he started talking about the jews, even Alex Jones showed his true colors. None of his schizophrenic behavior was worrying until he named the jew, then everybody around him went nuts.
The moment I started looking into it in any detail, the entire thing collapsed and I've been angry ever since. They destroyed a superbly talented artist whose only crime was to enjoy playing with kids and entertaining kids. What have we become as a society where that has become a bad thing?
Our society favors trannies who groom and rape kids instead. If Micheal cut off his dick rather than bleach his skin, he would be called "brave and stunning" instead under the same allegations.
 
Got a couple of burning (ha!) questions for you to think about, KF.

1.) Do you think the Pepsi fire incident was an attempt on Michael Jackson's life?
2.) How many Jews were in the development team of Sonic 3, save for Brad Buxer?

"Jew me, sue me", "Kick me, kike me", I'd think that'd tweak their yarmulkes enough to try to kill him or his career, don't you?
 
Vince Finaldi and John Manly, whose California practice specializes in civil litigation related to sexual abuse, ably guide us through the basis of their lawsuit, which alleges that the companies Jackson formed to manage his affairs should be held liable for his actions even after his death.

"Yes, let's bankrupt Paris over someone she had nothing to do with and something that Michael was never found guilty of!" I thought lawyers were supposed to be smart.
 
Do you think the Pepsi fire incident was an attempt on Michael Jackson's life?
Pyrotechnics accidents happen all of the time in the music industry. Look at the Station Nightclub Fire for one where 100 people died. Jackson was covered in a flammable hairspray that was liberally sprayed onto his hair (that was mostly a wig). The spray was coating his clothing and his face as well. During the commercial shoot they wanted him to emerge from a tunnel that was shooting sparklers or gerbs. Not realizing that Jackson was saturated in some type of flammable liquid.

He instantly caught fire and didn't feel it for a few seconds because the wig was the only thing alight. Then the fire spread to the rest of his face and body rapidly because of the chemical hairspray. By the time the fires were extinguished he had burns all over the upper half of his body and his head and face. This wasn't the first or last time that people would have their hair product catch fire.
 
I've never looked into this closely but I wanted to add my gen X two cents.

A bunch of people here are asking where these accusations even came from. I don't remember *ever* not hearing them. It was a standard piece of pre-internet gossip about Jackson. I remember hearing the kmart joke in the 80s.

about the innocence of his behavior. let's just assume that he actually was incapable of adult sexual feelings and actions. regardless this attitude is insane:




I enjoy the company of children. I don't offer large amounts of money to parents in order to spend time alone with them. He didn't simply enjoy playing with kids, he enjoyed having children over at his house, in an environment under his total control, away from their parents and any oversight.

This is abusive *even if there was no sexual content whatsoever.* Michael Jackson was clearly not a functional responsible adult and allowing children to be in his care is wrong. He was wrong to ask for it and the parents were wrong to allow it.

the question of did bad touch actually happen really distracts people from the fundamental fucked upness of the situation. it's very scary to children when they know that adults are basically oriented to something other than their safety. Jackson was not oriented to the children's safety, he was a grown up child who just wanted to play. The parents were oriented to the money and the closeness to fame. that must have been so disturbing and frightening for the children, under the attractions of all the fun and special experiences Jackson was able to provide would have been this sick undercurrent of them being objects, even if not sexual ones.
That makes him a (literal) retard, not a pedophile.
 
That interview of Michael and that boy talking about how michael had to "bribe him" to sleep in bed with him is enough for me to say he is a creepy ass freak and I don't care what anyone says.
I have no clue why people give this so much leg room. "He was abused as a kid! mentally he was a kid to cope!" Chris Chan is an autist and practically an undiagnosed retard who was abused by his mom, he still raped her when she was vulnerable.

There are many artists whose content you can have sentimental value with, but acknowledge the artist is a disgusting freak. I call internet celebs pedos for much less than actually being in proximity to children that they lay in bed with.
 
this is all an excellent example of people confusing legal liability and the beyond a reasonable doubt standard for criminal conviction with regular life
 
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1.) Do you think the Pepsi fire incident was an attempt on Michael Jackson's life?
I think it was just another in a series of cosmic misfortunes. Have a guy with crippling self-image issues then make him famous, give him a rough puberty, give him vitiligo, why not give him an accident that burns his scalp and renders him bald.
His death was as almond-activating as Epstein's though.

He instantly caught fire and didn't feel it for a few seconds because the wig was the only thing alight. Then the fire spread to the rest of his face and body rapidly because of the chemical hairspray. By the time the fires were extinguished he had burns all over the upper half of his body and his head and face. This wasn't the first or last time that people would have their hair product catch fire.
I thought it was his actual hair, I assumed he didn't immediately feel it because with an afro it takes longer for the heat to reach the scalp.
 
there are going to be countless niggers and nigger lovers who will turn out to be pedo apologists giving their opinion on this sequel, so keep that in mind
 
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