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Kev just wants the ego boost of the ultimate Twitter status symbol. Like most things, though, he's not willing to put in any effort to achieve it.
I personally hope he gets it, just to announce to the saner parts of the internet that he's a drooling idiot.
A forum user in the Technology subforum works for a big ad agency and has said before that the vast, vast majority of Twitter accounts are bots and actual engagement on Twitter isn't very high to begin with.

Funnily enough, Trump had the most engagement on the whole platform before they banned him.
I tell myself that whenever my poppin' fresh artisanal shitposts only get 3 likes.
 
Trying to decipher that bullshit word salad is giving me a migraine.
I'm confused because I thought Wedge was complaining that lesbians are transphobic because they still regards MtFs as men - ok, I'm following that idiot logic so far. Lesbians consider MtFs as men, that's their pov that Wedge disagrees with and is offended by.

But people are upset because Wedge is explaining why lesbians are transphobic? So MtF are not trans anymore, they're just women? Am I having a stroke?
 
But people are upset because Wedge is explaining why lesbians are transphobic? So MtF are not trans anymore, they're just women? Am I having a stroke?
You need to keep up with the times. There are multiple troon cows who insist they are biological women based on some pretty retarded pseudoscience and cross into tranny supremacist territory every once in a while.
 
Reality is a donut.
You sound like a prime candidate for quoit theory.

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Slate only. No clayfags allowed.
 
I'm confused because I thought Wedge was complaining that lesbians are transphobic because they still regards MtFs as men - ok, I'm following that idiot logic so far. Lesbians consider MtFs as men, that's their pov that Wedge disagrees with and is offended by.

But people are upset because Wedge is explaining why lesbians are transphobic? So MtF are not trans anymore, they're just women? Am I having a stroke?
Wedge ALSO said that denying that "bi lesbians" exist is ALSO transphobic, thus admitting that trans women are actually men.
 
There's really no logic behind the myriad of terms and "gender identities" Wedge and people like him invent. But that's probably the point.

Exactly. It's actually really simple, as much as they don't want to admit it.

Humans are either male or female, or in extremely rare cases, intersex.

You cannot change your biological sex.

Your sexual orientation can either be heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual or asexual; the latter is by far the rarest.

A man who is attracted to trannies is not straight; he is a bisexual or gay man with a fetish.
 
Humans are either male or female, or in extremely rare cases, intersex.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that "intersex" counts as a third gender. Considering that it often involves some sort of genetic abnormality or deformity. From what I understand, those who are intersex end-up appearing male or female anyway, regardless of whatever deformities they possess. Yet, for whatever reason, some take the concept of intersex and apply it on a mental level. Likely in order to seem unique, among those who actually embrace being male or female.
 
Humans are either male or female, or in extremely rare cases, intersex.
In the vast majority of intersex cases the underlying gender is male or female
I may be wrong but there are only a couple of dsd conditions that can be considered true hermaphrodites
And they are fucked well beyond any gender issues
I know we have med people in this thread so they can correct me if I'm wrong

Also, true intersex of any kind is rare, about ~ 0.02%
Do not believe the 1.7%, more common than red hair lie
This figure includes shit like people whose balls don't drop or the urethra comes out in a different place
These conditions have little to no relevance as far as the male/female intersex thing goes
 
I wouldn't go so far as to say that "intersex" counts as a third gender. Considering that it often involves some sort of genetic abnormality or deformity. From what I understand, those who are intersex end-up appearing male or female anyway, regardless of whatever deformities they possess. Yet, for whatever reason, some take the concept of intersex and apply it on a mental level. Likely in order to seem unique, among those who actually embrace being male or female.
Intersex people are just people with a birth defect. No one argues that humans born with 2 arms are one kind of human and someone born with no arms is another type of human. We all know that the norm for humans is 2 arms. Anyone born with less than that just has unfortunate genetics or maybe their mom took thalidomide. We don't demand reclassification for anytime someone gets fucked by the genetic lottery.

Do you think Kev has been losing weight lately because he's been told he needs to in order to have his fake boobs bolted on? He has lost weight but it is hard to imagine him being that motivated considering that every other tranch member is packing on the pounds like it is their job. Then again, maybe his burrito "period" shits are the real culprit.
 
I think in the vast majority of intersex cases the underlying gender is male or female
I may be wrong but there are only a couple of dsd conditions that can be considered true hermaphrodites
And they are fucked well beyond any gender issues
I know we have med people in this thread so they can correct me if I'm wrong

Also, true intersex of any kind is rare, about ~ 0.02%
Do not believe the 1.7%, more common than red hair lie
This figure includes shit like people whose balls don't drop or the urethra comes out in a different place
These conditions have little to no relevance as far as the male/female intersex thing goes
The only "hermaphrodite" cases with intersex people is where phenotypic sex (i.e. primary and secondary sex characteristics) don't match genotypic sex (i.e. chromosomes). These are rare even within general intersex conditions, and generally come with a lot of other health issues both directly related to sex organs (e.g. streak gonads that have a high risk of testicular cancer because they can't descend, menstruating when you have a womb but no vaginal canal/vulva so the blood can't actually get out) and unrelated (e.g. adrenal or other hormonal issues, other cancer issues I think). This is a case where, for example, someone who seems entirely female from a visual/developmental point of view (and has therefore been raised female, with all the female socialisation that entails) turns out to have XY chromosomes. In this case, the person is considered genotypically male and phenotypically female; they are generally legally considered female because that is what they were assigned (in the genuine sense of the word, this time) at birth, how they have been brought up, and how they have been percieved by everyone who encounters them. The inverse (appears female, genotypically male) is I believe what Caster Semenya has. These types of intersex disorder, though, are vanishingly rare, and have absolutely nothing to do with troonery.

No person on earth produces both fertile sperm and fertile ovum; no person on earth has a fully formed penis alongside a fully formed vagina (closest might be those conditions that cause cliteromealgy, which is an atypically large clitoris that can be a few inches long and get 'erect' when aroused - but it's still a clitoris); no person on earth produces a third type of gamete; no person on earth has a third sex, even when aspects (phenotypic, genotypic, hormonal profile) of their biology not align with what is typical for a single sex.
 
Do you think Kev has been losing weight lately because he's been told he needs to in order to have his fake boobs bolted on? He has lost weight but it is hard to imagine him being that motivated considering that every other tranch member is packing on the pounds like it is their job. Then again, maybe his burrito "period" shits are the real culprit.
The former. However, I'm not sure how much weight is he going to lose and how long is he going to keep that weight. Expect lots of "fucking troonsphobic fatphobic doctors don't want to give me BAPS 😭 " tweets and a new doctor shopping saga.
 
Do you think Kev has been losing weight lately because he's been told he needs to in order to have his fake boobs bolted on? He has lost weight but it is hard to imagine him being that motivated considering that every other tranch member is packing on the pounds like it is their job. Then again, maybe his burrito "period" shits are the real culprit
Could be a sign of a massive systemic infection.
 
The latter, probably. Keep in mind many of these troons are taking "homebrew HRT" ordered from shady sites following a dosage specified by some other loony troon.
Many of us troon farmers are well aware of the "horse piss pills" meme. For those who don't, certain kinds of estrogen HRT, including those procured by less than legitimate means, are made from horse piss, more specifically the urine of pregnant mares because their estrogen levels go through the roof during their pregnancy and gets secreted through their urine.

My question is this. In their stunning and brave quest of complete self sufficiency on their tranch, what are the odds they try their hand at creating their own, experimental homebrew HRT using piss from their prolapsed lamas?
 
I'm confused because I thought Wedge was complaining that lesbians are transphobic because they still regards MtFs as men - ok, I'm following that idiot logic so far. Lesbians consider MtFs as men, that's their pov that Wedge disagrees with and is offended by.

But people are upset because Wedge is explaining why lesbians are transphobic? So MtF are not trans anymore, they're just women? Am I having a stroke?
I'll toss my hat in the ring for this part of the discussion. Small PL, but I have actually asked this sort of question to trans people before.

This is the basic understanding of what it means to be "bi lesbian," as it was explained to me. Keep in mind that this wasn't explained to me by a Kevin-level troon, but some person who actually *tried* to pass. There's still some level of 🤔 on my part over it, though, purely because I hate word salads and over-complicating language.

So the idea is that there is the whole male-female thing going on biologically, as we know, but, strictly for the purpose of organizing facets of sexuality, "transgenders" themselves are allegedly grouped together under a totally different, nebulous umbrella. Because they may be biologically one or the other, but present as the opposite, it gets confusing. Some lesbians apparently are attracted to *female-presenting* people, irrespective of genetalia. That's when she may decide to use the "bi lesbian" denotation.

Now, I personally say to that "no, she's bisexual, full stop," or "she has a fetish." But I guess in the LGBT circles that I don't traverse, "transgender" itself has just become so confusing due to conflicting politics and in-fighting. Calling yourself "bisexual" isn't *specific* enough, you see! And it would imply that this woman may like cis men! Can't have that. (Though bisexuals have a whole different set of issues in the community, I won't get into that here.)

Some women will say "excluding transwomen from lesbians is transphobic because then you're saying they're not women??? How dare???" and that anyone who says "I don't like penis" is a TERF. Other, more sane-ish types go along with "trans aren't women, we're our own thing, we have a medical condition, we just want to live as women but recognize that we're not biologically female, blah blah blah" so therefore they stick on the "bi lesbian" tag because it closer identifies what they themselves consider to be: a separate sex/gender salad that's too confusing to really pigeonhole into one definition. It doesn't fully click along with the whole "we understand that we're not biologically female" ideology, but I guess that calling yourself a woman is enough? That part was still confusing for me.

More and more, though, that latter group is being drowned out by people who think that having a genital preference = TERFism and that if you're a lesbian or a gay man, you're intolerant if you don't sleep with a transperson. It's absolutely clownish to essentially beat down on each other over something as stupid as mangling the English language just so they can each feel Recognized and Special. Both sides need to just stop and accept the fact that drilling down on sexual preferences is irrelevant to your day to day, unless you're a big slut, I guess.

In conclusion, most troons are troonsexual, not lesbians or bi, in my opinion. None of them would attract a female of any kind of quality and males who don't fetishize them in the *correct* way are evil (also cis men, ew?), so they will exclusively fuck each other like a sad pile of flesh.

Also, it bears repeating that I absolutely hate this mangling of language and the explanation above isn't justification of the insanely confusing system they've created for themselves. It was just the only explanation I was ever given that made sense to me.
 
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