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In the vast majority of intersex cases the underlying gender is male or female
I may be wrong but there are only a couple of dsd conditions that can be considered true hermaphrodites
And they are fucked well beyond any gender issues
I know we have med people in this thread so they can correct me if I'm wrong

Also, true intersex of any kind is rare, about ~ 0.02%
Do not believe the 1.7%, more common than red hair lie
This figure includes shit like people whose balls don't drop or the urethra comes out in a different place
These conditions have little to no relevance as far as the male/female intersex thing goes
Absolutely!

I was just taking the most charitable definition possible, by counting intersex as a separate column (even though it is not a third/separate sex) and granting that asexuality exists and isn't just the result of trauma or mental incapacity.

Even that sounds like the worst possible bigotry to Trancheros.
 
I'll toss my hat in the ring for this part of the discussion. Small PL, but I have actually asked this sort of question to trans people before.

This is the basic understanding of what it means to be "bi lesbian," as it was explained to me. Keep in mind that this wasn't explained to me by a Kevin-level troon, but some person who actually *tried* to pass. There's still some level of 🤔 on my part over it, though, purely because I hate word salads and over-complicating language.

So the idea is that there is the whole male-female thing going on biologically, as we know, but, strictly for the purpose of organizing facets of sexuality, "transgenders" themselves are allegedly grouped together under a totally different, nebulous umbrella. Because they may be biologically one or the other, but present as the opposite, it gets confusing. Some lesbians apparently are attracted to *female-presenting* people, irrespective of genetalia. That's when she may decide to use the "bi lesbian" denotation.

Now, I personally say to that "no, she's bisexual, full stop," or "she has a fetish." But I guess in the LGBT circles that I don't traverse, "transgender" itself has just become so confusing due to conflicting politics and in-fighting. Calling yourself "bisexual" isn't *specific* enough, you see! And it would imply that this woman may like cis men! Can't have that. (Though bisexuals have a whole different set of issues in the community, I won't get into that here.)

Some women will say "excluding transwomen from lesbians is transphobic because then you're saying they're not women??? How dare???" and that anyone who says "I don't like penis" is a TERF. Other, more sane-ish types go along with "trans aren't women, we're our own thing, we have a medical condition, we just want to live as women but recognize that we're not biologically female, blah blah blah" so therefore they stick on the "bi lesbian" tag because it closer identifies what they themselves consider to be: a separate sex/gender salad that's too confusing to really pigeonhole into one definition. It doesn't fully click along with the whole "we understand that we're not biologically female" ideology, but I guess that calling yourself a woman is enough? That part was still confusing for me.

More and more, though, that latter group is being drowned out by people who think that having a genital preference = TERFism and that if you're a lesbian or a gay man, you're intolerant if you don't sleep with a transperson. It's absolutely clownish to essentially beat down on each other over something as stupid as mangling the English language just so they can each feel Recognized and Special. Both sides need to just stop and accept the fact that drilling down on sexual preferences is irrelevant to your day to day, unless you're a big slut, I guess.

In conclusion, most troons are troonsexual, not lesbians or bi, in my opinion. None of them would attract a female of any kind of quality and males who don't fetishize them in the *correct* way are evil (also cis men, ew?), so they will exclusively fuck each other like a sad pile of flesh.

Also, it bears repeating that I absolutely hate this mangling of language and the explanation above isn't justification of the insanely confusing system they've created for themselves. It was just the only explanation I was ever given that made sense to me.
This is excellent, and probably the most coherent explanation of the Kafkaesqe word jumble that makes up troon ideology I've ever seen. A question for you, though- the saner troons claim that they aren't actually women, but want to live as one because their brains are messed up. I can see that, but they then also claim that they are separate from the rest of the men because of their mental disorder? It seems to me that the knowledge that they aren't women would lead to the logical conclusion- that is, that they're AGP men who like to crossdress. Of course, the majority of them have neither sought the psychiatric help they need or simply acknowledged the problem, which would seem to conflict with my understanding of the situation. What am I misunderstanding?
 
Nah, I think it's just being an "uwu slut bimbo sex worker warm hole for all dicks" or whatever. I don't think Wedge is a bug chaser, I just think he likes the idea of being able to sleep around with impunity because that's what women are "supposed to do". Though, for all his claims about slutting it up, we see remarkably little evidence of any kind of sex work career beyond making god awful fetish porn on twitter...
And licking wounds.
I love how everyone calls out Wedge for not understanding how being a dyke works, but not for the fact he wants to be a bug chaser/spreader amidst the community. Lesser of two evils I suppose.
 
This is excellent, and probably the most coherent explanation of the Kafkaesqe word jumble that makes up troon ideology I've ever seen. A question for you, though- the saner troons claim that they aren't actually women, but want to live as one because their brains are messed up. I can see that, but they then also claim that they are separate from the rest of the men because of their mental disorder? It seems to me that the knowledge that they aren't women would lead to the logical conclusion- that is, that they're AGP men who like to crossdress. Of course, the majority of them have neither sought the psychiatric help they need or simply acknowledged the problem, which would seem to conflict with my understanding of the situation. What am I misunderstanding?
Thank you, I'm glad it was somewhat easy to follow, considering I still have some confusion myself. The person who explained it to me was also fairly sane-ish (in that they weren't a sobbing attention whore or histrionic asshole), so that helped.

But to answer your posed question, I'll say this: they don't necessarily recognize it as a "fetish" per se, because it's not like Kevin and his band of merry troons who are clearly AGP and in denial/refusal to accept it. I bet you if you were to ask any of them if they believe transgenderism is a mental illness/disorder, they would REEE til the alpacas came home.

These other trans people who recognize that they will never be male/female (depending on situation), are more or less experiencing true dysphoria. Someone way back in the thread described it, I think. It's not a pleasant, ~euphoric~ experience for them. It's making their brain settle down so they can function. Many of them don't even like using the restroom, and not because of being forced or whatever into the restroom of their born sex. They just hate dealing with their genitals at all. These are what troons like Kevin call "truscum." They are, ironically enough, the most sane sect of trans people you will likely find, at least when it comes to troonery.

Here's an even simpler way to tell. Kevin says you don't need dysphoria to be trans. That you just need to have an inkling of "I think I'd like to wear women's clothing" or "I don't like my body," and boom, you're a transwoman.

That's 100% the tell of a fetishist, not of what you would consider to be medically transgender. Fetishists will be the ones to seek out the so-called "eggs" to crack because they want to feel justified and surrounded by others who adhere to the fetish. An actual trans person would likely not wish their experience on anyone. Think about it: why WOULD anyone want to be trans unless they have a fetish? Clearly either Kevin lied about dysphoria (this is where my money is) to get the surgery, or he had doctor shopped like crazy.
 
Wedge continues to say words that seem to have some vague connection to the topic they're supposedly about.
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I wonder when Wedge will let heterosexual men into the super secret lesbian club?
 
Oh, so Wedge is claiming to actually be deaf now? I thought an audiologist tested him and he was within normal hearing range...?

These fuckers lie so much, it’s no wonder they buy all their own bullshit. What does truth matter when everything you say & believe is made up? The mendacity of troons.
 

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I can see that, but they then also claim that they are separate from the rest of the men because of their mental disorder?
This is where it falls apart for me. Men with mental illness or personality disorders are men. Men who wish they weren't men are men. Men who like wearing skirts and makeup, for whatever reason, are men. Men with disorders of sexual development are men. Men with long hair are men. Men who don't feel like they fit in are men. Men with weird dicks are men. Transwomen may be different than men who aren't transwomen, certain transwomen may look like real women, but transwomen, at the end of the day, are men.
Imagine being 35+ years old and exclusively wearing weeb or video game graphic tee’s
Hey, he also sometimes wears a green tank top from Walmart! And he once wore a floral print sack! Don't forget those rare Kevins.
 
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Watching Wedge get destroyed on twitter by his fellow troons gives me gender euphoria uwu
The best part is that the people he's arguing with are likely teenagers. This grown ass man is losing his mind getting yelled at by 13 year old girls with kpop profile pics. Wedge, you're spending a lot of mental energy on people who's biggest stress in life is getting a good mark on their next English test
 
What's funny to me is that Wedge feels the need to respond to so many of these fuckers, most of the time just replying with the same linked tweet and that's that. It just proves that he (much like Kevin) has nothing going on otherwise so he has the time to spend to personally answer each and every one of them. I would have respected him more if he just made the one reply, then said something along the lines of "fuck you, I'm right." To be fair though, most of the people he's replying to are probably just as terminally online. I guess it's just nice to see this shitty community once again cannibalizing itself, and what a great target at that!

Also huge lols at how he just couldn't pass up the opportunity to call someone ableist for using the term "tone deaf" in reference to his take.
 
So according to Kevin, there is no difference between straight and gay courtship, since a heterosexual relationship can give off such 'lesbian vibes'.

Maybe I'm just sick in the head, but 'lesbian vibe' sounds like a sex toy two gay-married ladies use to spice up their love life.

What's funny to me is that Wedge feels the need to respond to so many of these fuckers, most of the time just replying with the same linked tweet and that's that. It just proves that he (much like Kevin) has nothing going on otherwise so he has the time to spend to personally answer each and every one of them. I would have respected him more if he just made the one reply, then said something along the lines of "fuck you, I'm right." To be fair though, most of the people he's replying to are probably just as terminally online. I guess it's just nice to see this shitty community once again cannibalizing itself, and what a great target at that!

Also huge lols at how he just couldn't pass up the opportunity to call someone ableist for using the term "tone deaf" in reference to his take.
What's even funnier to me is how (unless I've missed it somehow) Kev the 'trans elder' hasn't even attempted to back up his dear 'daddy'

I'm just loving it...nothing better than seeing a bunch of delusional woketard freaks cancelling and eating each other for 'wrongspeak' and 'wrongthink'

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What's even funnier to me is how (unless I've missed it somehow) Kev the 'trans elder' hasn't even attempted to back up his dear 'daddy'

I'm just loving it...nothing better than seeing a bunch of delusional woketard freaks cancelling and eating each other for 'wrongspeak' and 'wrongthink'

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Kevin doesn't want to risk losing clout, so he'll straddle the fence any which way he can.

Besides, his relationship with Wedge is purely transactional.
 
It's both fascinating and sad to see them all eat each other alive like this, simply because of poor phrasing on Wedge's part. Not that that makes his original point any better though. Not to mention any less confusing.
 
Kevin doesn't want to risk losing clout, so he'll straddle the fence any which way he can.

Besides, his relationship with Wedge is purely transactional.
Completely true...if there was a photograph needed to illustrate 'total coward' KevKev would be perfect

This really shows up their 'relationship' for what it is...as you say, transactional and performative...this, and the fact Kev has NEVER listed Wedge amongst his 'significant others' in his bio

I'm wondering what he could truthfully call him? 'My gigolo'?
 
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