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LordCustos3 said:
Now that I zoom in, it looks more like a mummified dog.

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I don't know if you were trying to be funny (I don't really know anymore with this forum) but if not probably one of the dumbest things I've seen lately. It's a piece of pink insulation covered with crud. Dogs aren't usually pink.
 
Power Word said:
Chris buys multiples of the same Lego set, and even video games, but he's not a hoarder? I heartily disagree. Chris' hoard is just smaller and/or digital.
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Chris doesn't actively hoard. He may obey Barb's wishes not to throw random shit out, and he'll drive her to Goodwill to buy more hoard fuel, but he's not actively hoarding. Chris can at least (sometimes) sense when something is useless and can be tossed or recycled. And he's not buying random shit because reasons. He wants to play the games he buys, or with the toys he purchases. Barb is buying anything and everything she can snatch at Goodwill and garage sales because she's seriously fucked up in the head.
 
A-Stump said:
I don't know if you were trying to be funny (I don't really know anymore with this forum) but if not probably one of the dumbest things I've seen lately. It's a piece of pink insulation covered with crud. Dogs aren't usually pink.
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Agreed. I'm drunk, and that doesn't look remotely like a (former) animal. I think people hear Barb is a hoarder and immediately assume her life is like every episode of Hoarders. Like my aunt, she's a hoarder that's not quite horrible enough to be made a spectacle on national television. If there's any animals in there, it's because they nested in post-fire.
 
I think Chris has very strong hoarding tendencies. All you have to do is watch any video that takes place in his room. All of his toys he's had for years on end, even things like his ratty Parappa hat he still wears years later. He might occasionally throw something out or not impulse by every thing he sees, but he doesn't part with most of his belongings and he had hoarding tendencies where certain things (LEGO) are concerned.

That said, were there any updates about what happened to the Chandler pets? Were the dogs given up? Did the cats escape the fire? I hope so, because nothing upsets me more than animals that have to suffer because of the idiocy and neglect of their owners. My pet's safety would be ensured above my own if my house were in any danger...
 
A-Stump said:
I don't know if you were trying to be funny (I don't really know anymore with this forum) but if not probably one of the dumbest things I've seen lately. It's a piece of pink insulation covered with crud. Dogs aren't usually pink.
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It's foam used in insulation and PVC piping.

Source: Grew up around lots of construction and can see it around PVC pipes in the crawlspace in my bedroom.
 
Shadow said:
I think Chris has very strong hoarding tendencies. All you have to do is watch any video that takes place in his room. All of his toys he's had for years on end, even things like his ratty Parappa hat he still wears years later. He might occasionally throw something out or not impulse by every thing he sees, but he doesn't part with most of his belongings and he had hoarding tendencies where certain things (LEGO) are concerned.
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Well, he did get rid of the better part of the Megan Shrine. If he kept everything he's bought over the last decade, he'd be neck high in useless shit.
 
:lol:

It's been a hell of a run, Chris. Good night, sweet princess. Enjoy your goblin hole.

Later, kids. This is where I get off.
 
skyraider91 said:
In most of rural America, there's not any oversight for what you're talking about, or it varies from county to county. There is no department, no regulations, no inspections requirement or building standard.

In the rural county in Oklahoma that I grew up in, there were no building codes or regulations of any kind outside city limits. You could buy land, buy materials, build your own house/shed/barn, and get it hooked up to utilities. You could do what you wanted without any red tape of any kind. It was nice. It's probably the same way in Greene County VA. It's a shame that people like the Chandlers take it as an opportunity to live in a toxic garbage dump.

EDIT: Even outside city limits, if you were constructing a building for commercial or public use, there were regulations, just not for construction that was both on private property and for personal/family use.
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He is right. I bought rural land and am building a house on it. The builder credited me back for permits and environmental impact studies.

FYI power company won't hook up the lines without an inspection of the house wiring and meter.
 
I don't think Chris is a full blown hoarder, he's just very materialistic. He does have hoarder tendencies he picked up from Barb though.
He actually hated how "cluttered" the house was; he probably found it very overwhelming and stressful. After he moved into the rental, there was some evidence that he generally felt more relaxed.
 
Wow... Just. Wow.

If it's as bad as skyraider says (and there is no reason to doubt his word), then the Chandlers are going to be neckdeep in trouble.
Damp, moldy barbage, filth and insects (maybe even rodents)... this is just too much. People were discussing the impact of the taint piercing and poor diet on Chris' health and his life expectancy, soon he will be in living conditions we know to be almost inhumane.

The house never looked comfy or anything, in Chris' first tour of his house, it was incredibly depressing to witness the circumstances they lived in, it was disgusting in some others, but I guess Chris was used to it, so I doubt he'd feel too uncomfortable about the state it was in (most likely only annoyed by the barbage being in the way so much).
But now? Imagine going back into a house that still is filled to the brim with barbage, but now it also smells of mold and decay, broken stuff all around you and everything just reminds you of a (slightly) better past. When you consider BC14 was Chris' time capsule of better times as a kid when the world still made sense to him and he had nothing much to care about, imagine him soon living in a rotten husk of said memory, surrounded by the traces of the fire and poor care thereafter, sitting in his room playing with Lego.
 
Chris does seem to attach unnatural importance to certain material possessions, but I think his tendency to acquire large amounts of shit is a combination of greed, materialism, impulsiveness and a bit of the old autism creating a "collector" mentality. Essentially, he has a child's greed with an adult's access to funds.

Re sanitary conditions, Chris might well be bothered, but I can't see him doing anything about it. Firstly, because he's lazy and tends to either ignore problems or leave them for someone else to deal with, and secondly, because Barb has him under her thumb and you can bet that if she decides it's not a problem, Chris won't take the initiative. That's if he knows how to take the initiative, which given his understanding of how a household works, seems unlikely. Going to be honest, I don't think there will be many laughs to be had there.
 
Stud2Stud said:
Wow... Just. Wow.

If it's as bad as skyraider says (and there is no reason to doubt his word), then the Chandlers are going to be neckdeep in trouble.
Damp, moldy barbage, filth and insects (maybe even rodents)... this is just too much. People were discussing the impact of the taint piercing and poor diet on Chris' health and his life expectancy, soon he will be in living conditions we know to be almost inhumane.

The house never looked comfy or anything, in Chris' first tour of his house, it was incredibly depressing to witness the circumstances they lived in, it was disgusting in some others, but I guess Chris was used to it, so I doubt he'd feel too uncomfortable about the state it was in (most likely only annoyed by the barbage being in the way so much).
But now? Imagine going back into a house that still is filled to the brim with barbage, but now it also smells of mold and decay, broken stuff all around you and everything just reminds you of a (slightly) better past. When you consider BC14 was Chris' time capsule of better times as a kid when the world still made sense to him and he had nothing much to care about, imagine him soon living in a rotten husk of said memory, surrounded by the traces of the fire and poor care thereafter, sitting in his room playing with Lego.
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Yeah, but by the same token, assuming that Chris and Barb were able to find some other place to live indefinitely, would Chris be able to move on?

There probably always would be a part of him that's drawn to 14BC, just like there's always been a part of him that was drawn back to his days in high school. Sure, his past has never been so flash hot, but Chris remembers it as being significantly better than the present--and, given his mountain of debt and the risk of him being homeless in the near future if the house isn't fixed in time, he probably isn't too far off the truth right now.

I don't doubt that Charb would be better off living anywhere but 14BC simply because of the living conditions present in that house as is--I've seen the same pictures all of you have--but I think that chances are, the psychological damage of them living elsewhere would probably be just as significant as the actual physical health risks of them living at the old house even after it's been done up by some shady repairmen.
 
You can't help but be a bit aghast at this whole revelation. They'd literally be better off burning the insurance money.
I do wonder if when the reality of their living situation hits, it will finally be enough to break Barb's crass redneck stubbornness, or Chris's impotent subservience.
 
I'm also wondering if the house will be structurally sound when all is said and done.

I mean, houses of hoarders tend to fall apart under the weight of all the garbage, now we have a house that took significant damage in a fire and is being patched up (several months later) by what seems to be the cheapest contractor that could lift half an ass to get some work done. Future fire and general health hazards aside, is this house even in stable enough to be home to anyone. Especially considering the hoard will grow.
 
:c and :snorlax: moving back into 14 BC? This can't end well. A lot of people, including myself, thought that place was going to get condemned for sure. Thanks to Skyraider's insights, I think we can all say with certainty that it should be condemned.

It's almost kind of scary how oblivious they are to the dangers of moving back into that decrepit shack.
 
skyraider91 said:
In most of rural America, there's not any oversight for what you're talking about, or it varies from county to county. There is no department, no regulations, no inspections requirement or building standard.

EDIT: Even outside city limits, if you were constructing a building for commercial or public use, there were regulations, just not for construction that was both on private property and for personal/family use.
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Even closer to DC where I am building inspection is pretty lax. We just sold a townhouse outside of DC, and the buyer was asking for to see permits from work that was done on the AC, some minor electrical work, finishing the basement, and building the deck, all of which require permits in our area (all this was done by owners before us). The only permit that had been filed was for the deck, and when I talked to county about the other permits...they didn't care. The county code requires permits for those things, but the rules aren't enforced.

I can't fathom a scenario where a shithole like Greene County is going to be stricter on inspections than Fairfax, Arlington, Montgomery, PG etc. etc.

MysticMisty said:
Chris doesn't actively hoard. He may obey Barb's wishes not to throw random shit out, and he'll drive her to Goodwill to buy more hoard fuel, but he's not actively hoarding. Chris can at least (sometimes) sense when something is useless and can be tossed or recycled.
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Chris doesn't have a hoarding disorder (Barb does), but he does exhibit some hoarding behavior. His behavior is probably due to fear of Barb's reaction if he throws valuable barbage out AND just general severe laziness on Fatty's part.
 
This is literally a dump. It would be much cheaper to demolish it than wasting money trying to rebuild it.
Also some psychiatric treatment for Barb would be in order, to help her get rid of her hoarding compulsions.
 
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