Plagued 4chan - the Internet hate machine

Will the 4chan hack be the end of it?

  • Yes, goodbye forever 4chan

    Votes: 1,034 18.5%
  • No, they will rise from the ashes, stronger than ever

    Votes: 344 6.1%
  • This will rattle them but it will be forgotten about next week

    Votes: 2,331 41.7%
  • I am just here for the janny phonebooking

    Votes: 1,096 19.6%
  • What the fuck is 4chan

    Votes: 219 3.9%
  • Yotsuba&!

    Votes: 572 10.2%

  • Total voters
    5,596
I did see a post a few pages back about those sekrit discord servers.

I tried one off jp as all you have to do is screech about there being one and eventually they may post an invite.

all they do there is glowpost and have random schizo fits about the politics of the day. They also live-stream propaganda and pretty much do try to indirectly groom ordinary users into shooters or some kind of schizo.

The staff are always distant and theres seldom any real communication from them other than randomly giving promotions to each other and having retarded inside jokes just like every other group of discordfags do but with this ice wall they put up between board users and them.

They pretty much are either “feds in training” or full on feds hellbent on control of any site they can. They aren’t interested in communtiy building, just pushing what their handlers tell them to behind the scenes.

Then again water is wet and its been a poorly kept secret that 4chan was co opted as a propaganda site and psyops testing ground a long time ago.
 
I did see a post a few pages back about those sekrit discord servers.

I tried one off jp as all you have to do is screech about there being one and eventually they may post an invite.

all they do there is glowpost and have random schizo fits about the politics of the day. They also live-stream propaganda and pretty much do try to indirectly groom ordinary users into shooters or some kind of schizo.

The staff are always distant and theres seldom any real communication from them other than randomly giving promotions to each other and having retarded inside jokes just like every other group of discordfags do but with this ice wall they put up between board users and them.

They pretty much are either “feds in training” or full on feds hellbent on control of any site they can. They aren’t interested in communtiy building, just pushing what their handlers tell them to behind the scenes.

Then again water is wet and its been a poorly kept secret that 4chan was co opted as a propaganda site and psyops testing ground a long time ago.
I'll keep this in mind and stop using 4chan then. If you're wondering why all the boards suddenly changed direction... something fishy's going on.
 
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I did see a post a few pages back about those sekrit discord servers.

I tried one off jp as all you have to do is screech about there being one and eventually they may post an invite.

all they do there is glowpost and have random schizo fits about the politics of the day. They also live-stream propaganda and pretty much do try to indirectly groom ordinary users into shooters or some kind of schizo.

The staff are always distant and theres seldom any real communication from them other than randomly giving promotions to each other and having retarded inside jokes just like every other group of discordfags do but with this ice wall they put up between board users and them.

They pretty much are either “feds in training” or full on feds hellbent on control of any site they can. They aren’t interested in communtiy building, just pushing what their handlers tell them to behind the scenes.

Then again water is wet and its been a poorly kept secret that 4chan was co opted as a propaganda site and psyops testing ground a long time ago.
I think also selling out to the feds kept 4chan alive. Because of all the shit that gets posted to the boards and having a bot or the jannies give the info to the feds with either conspiracy or illegal shit, avoid getting taken off like what happened to 8chan.
 
Since this fucking thread is slow I might as well give some honest thoughts on my views of modern internet: I have no idea anymore what half the lingo is for the internet anymore, I swear the lingo people use on boards and forums and just the internet in general is moving at such a fast pace even I can't keep up anymore, Like shit like "goyslop" or whatever, I've called this shit many times before as "zoomer newspeak" but I genuinely feel that way like it's a whole new language that I just can't grasp. I'll join lobbies for games and people will go like "something something bussin/doomer/coomer/etc". Like what is this anymore, and I just feel kinda tired even going on 4chan or the like anymore since it feels so disconnected from what I remember. We can go on about summerfags and the like but I just don't know anymore. View attachment 4053975
This image kinda seems up me in a nutshell, Just kinda tiresome everytime I go on a 4chan thread I have to look up what half the shit people are even saying anymore


maybe I'm just confused a lot, again like the big wall of text above, i have no clue anymore on half this lingo anymore, WASP sounds like something that would be birthed from the internet and image boards as it reminded me of the Enteral Anglo shitpost so apologies on my part. again like I've stated, I feel anytime I go on the internet I have to decode half the words people are even speaking anymore.

I just wonder have I grown too old for the modern internet. since it feels like modern day 4chan and other sites and games (like Team Fortress 2) I've used and played for years just seem so different now, and i do fear Kiwi Farms going down the same path. People get on my case a lot, but i don't use any social media websites, ever, never have never will. but i feel i've been left behind in the acceleration of the internet and it's culture

I just want the internet as a whole to be fun again, everything now is political and the like, people get on my ass for being a "fencesitter" but it's because i've genuinely grown tired of all the internet political slapfighting, just watching the sides be hypocritical in nature. That can lead into a whole arguement of modern society as a whole becoming more nihilistic/uncaring in nature. But that's for a different time

Dude, ten years ago on the site this thread is about the average post could be nonsense as incomprenhsible as

>2011
>weeb roody poo
I shiggy diggy
SAGE

It's an internet thing, it always has been, the slang du jour just moves fast. If you can't figure out "goyslop" I'm not sure what to tell you, it's plenty evocative enough.
 
So far, heading into 2023, I don’t think 4chan pushing ”goyslop” into the mainstream is not working hard enough. If people are not having any consuming enough mainstream media in North America, what really is going to change things?
 
So far, heading into 2023, I don’t think 4chan pushing ”goyslop” into the mainstream is not working hard enough. If people are not having any consuming enough mainstream media in North America, what really is going to change things?
I just find "goyslop" to be very ironic considering the people that browse certain boards on 4chan, and the fact that jannies and hot pockets are closely associated.
 
Today's a big day on /tv/, there's even 2 stickied threads for it
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Avatar 2 is a good testament to the times: less about global warming or the environment like the first and more about hating whitey. That’s the theme, more or less.
Sorry, I hate myself plenty fine for my own repulsive features, I am not going to hate myself for being white too, kill yourself (((fellow white person))).
 
If you told me that from 2016 onwards /pol/ would-
-start supporting islamic groups like the Taliban
-turn their backs on nations they called "based" and the like as with Poland on a whime
-simp for a nigger running for president and his gay spic friend
-hating a neo nazi group fighting to protect it's nation as with Azov
-and support Communist governments like China
-and start hating people wanting to own guns as with the shitflinging between /k/ and /pol/
I would've called you a fucking fag, but real life is chaotic, I honestly fear what retarded takes /pol/ will come up with in 3-5 years.
I'm certain this shift was the product of targeted campaigns. /pol/ has been increasingly unauthentic ever since ~2017 and everybody who has visited the place a few times before 2016 knows what I mean. I stopped browsing it at some time late 2018 because it felt like shit. 2020 I took a peek to see what's going on there and holy shit it was a completely different thing. And now it's so much worse.
It's full of flat earthers.
They love Hitler, but even more than Hitler they love Putin.
They love the radical muslims and just like Reddit, every time you mention Christianity you get swarmed with replies calling you a christcuck. There was a year-long campaign to demonize Christianity and associate it with LGBT, bots were posting some faggot tranny totally legit tiktok "pastors" and it worked like a charm. Nowadays the majority of /pol/ think Christianity=Globohomo.
They say they hate redditors but they are proud atheists and the only group more proud than the atheists are the Pagans of /pol/, very much like every other redditor.
And don't even get me started on all the absolute schitzo posts that hit bump limit, like how Artificial Intelligence is the antichrist because electricity is demon energy and computers are full of trapped demons.
It's all SO unauthentic, so blatantly non-human and obviously very carefully tailored to repel any new visitors and only attract bottom of the barrel conspiracy freaks and double digit iq morons.
Oldfag anons either just left or visit every once in a while in a happening thread, like the Darrel Brooks trial.

This picture illustrates the type of attacks /pol/ has been subjected to ever since 2016
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I'm certain this shift was the product of targeted campaigns. /pol/ has been increasingly unauthentic ever since ~2017 and everybody who has visited the place a few times before 2016 knows what I mean. I stopped browsing it at some time late 2018 because it felt like shit. 2020 I took a peek to see what's going on there and holy shit it was a completely different thing. And now it's so much worse.
It's full of flat earthers.
They love Hitler, but even more than Hitler they love Putin.
They love the radical muslims and just like Reddit, every time you mention Christianity you get swarmed with replies calling you a christcuck. There was a year-long campaign to demonize Christianity and associate it with LGBT, bots were posting some faggot tranny totally legit tiktok "pastors" and it worked like a charm. Nowadays the majority of /pol/ think Christianity=Globohomo.
They say they hate redditors but they are proud atheists and the only group more proud than the atheists are the Pagans of /pol/, very much like every other redditor.
And don't even get me started on all the absolute schitzo posts that hit bump limit, like how Artificial Intelligence is the antichrist because electricity is demon energy and computers are full of trapped demons.
It's all SO unauthentic, so blatantly non-human and obviously very carefully tailored to repel any new visitors and only attract bottom of the barrel conspiracy freaks and double digit iq morons.
Oldfag anons either just left or visit every once in a while in a happening thread, like the Darrel Brooks trial.

This picture illustrates the type of attacks /pol/ has been subjected to ever since 2016
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Could say the same about the 8chan refugee webring. Nothing but bots, feds, and discordniggers directly from 4chan. They will spam novel length schizoposts with their psuedo intellectual drivel back and forth for months but ignore any constructive community building threads actually on the board subject.
 
It's a huge shame what has happened to most of the site. It's been a shitshow since arguably the mid 2010's but post election 4chan has just fallen off a cliff quality wise. Most of the threads as been pointed out feels like they come out of some algorithm and even many of the post feel incredibly inauthentic. Even genuinely new OC that isn't just some old tired variant of soyjack or chad feels nonexistent. Though at a certain point you have to wonder if the reason you can no longer tell the difference between the average user and bot is if it's either nothing but bot posting or if the new zoomer userbase that no longer has oldfags to keep them in line thinks bot posting is what it means to "act like a 4channer" as ridiculous as that sounds. At least niche boards like /qst/ are still alright given that you actually have to put in some effort to start a decent thread and the users have to put in effort to engage with the quest and keep thread's interest going. Pic related was the last time I ever saw what I thought was a genuine post from an anon and it's all just echoes what mostly everyone here has been saying.
 

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4chan should die. It no longer produces anything of value. No meaningful discourse or discussion can occur there. Board culture has stagnated and in many ways de-evolved. It has become exactly the kind of vapid, retarded, schizophrenic wankery that the site once derided.

Internet culture and more specifically chan culture is a reflection of the people using the site and society 🃏 in general at the time. It's just a mirror. It reflects whatever you show it back at you. Early 4chan was a synthesis of an extremely specific set of factors at a specific point in time that will probably never coalesce again.

A shitty economy, a general malaise of apathy among the youth, anime and gamer culture being obscure and ostracized, "The internet" having a barrier to entry, how fucked up and unmoderated the early internet was etc. Chances were, if you used the internet back then you had seen some shit. But anyway, people like to congregate with other people that have the same interests as they do. Where do you hang out if you're some loser living in a shit town with few or no friends and you spend your time playing Warcraft 3 custom games and watching Ego Proxy or whatever? you find the other social outcasts online because people in real life who have the same hobbies as you don't exist. The point being that there is an extremely specific kind of person who would waste the best years of their life on an anime website where there's a 9 out of 10 chance on any given day that you're going to see a picture of someone cutting their own dick off.

These people congregate together and a baseline of culture forms from their mutual interests, experiences and attitudes. The culture evolves over time as knowledge about the site spreads through word of mouth, or people discover the site after raids or fox news specials or whatever. Site culture gradually shifts as the demographics of the user base change. At the same time popular culture shifts as more people of all ages gain access to the internet, media corporations begin to target a wider demographic of casual consumers rather than a niche of hardcore fans. Subcultures are exploited by corporations and integrated into popular culture. Someone emails their friend a funny cat picture not realising where it came from, or that the person who made it probably also jacks off to lolicon tentacle rape doujuns. The internet begins leaking.

The universal measure of successful online content is likes or the equivalent. Upvotes, retweets, reacts, shares etc. On 4chan the success of a thread is measured by the number of replies it receives. Because of the ephemeral nature of imageboards, users do not have any way to accumulate a representation of authority or post quality. Inversely there's very little repurcussion for being banned because there's no account to lose. These dynamics incentivize the poster to create a thread/post that will generate as many replies as possible. In theory, this will produce good content. Interesting posts will attract replies while retarded faggotory will attract sages, moderators or nothing at all. People will of course game this system for one reason or another. Clickbait is prevalent on YouTube because people can make money from it. Posting pictures of your cat on fifteen different subreddits to farm karma works because Reddit rewards banal, kitsch, inoffensive content. Posting bait to 4chan works because the user base is fucking retarded.

People who get their kicks by pretending to be fools will soon find themselves surrounded by fools who think they are in good company. 4chan had a reputation for being le sekrit hacker club, so they naturally attracted every edgy 14 year old who could figure out how to download LoIC. Once external raids and harassment campaigns were cracked down on by the mods the user base seemed to turn inwards and begin eating itself. This came to a head in the post election years as more and more boards were saturated with low quality content. Why should anyone bother creating OC or contributing to a discussion if it will be immediately derailed or drowned out by the same repetitive bait or incomprehensible schizophrenic rambling?

For a long time 4chan had purpose. Originally this was discussing niche topics (pornography). Then it evolved into raids, harassment and the extraction of lulz. Then social causes and anons trying to find purpose and better themselves and then nothing. They began lashing out at everything. Anons went from sincerely enjoying things, to ironically liking things and then pure hatred. Except not, it became the default to be a contrarian asshole except when you were only pretending, and actually everyone else was retarded for not seeing that you were fucking with them the whole time. It's faster to call everyone a cuck soy drinker and move on than it is trying to decipher the 9000 layers of meta comedy and half winking irony that everything was covered in. Culture can not evolve in this environment. This is why board culture has stagnated in the years since the election. This is why we only see the same forced memes rehashed over and over again.

As other Kiwis have said, the arrival of easily accessible AI has killed imageboards. Without competent moderation, which the site no longer has, it is impossible prevent widespread manipulation of the discourse. This has accelerated the drop in post quality to the point where bot posts are indistinguishable from human posters. At which point, why even bother posting at all.

There was a time that anons were comrades in misery. You didn't end up on 4chan because you were successful or had your life together. You were more than likely an outsider, a loser, fucked up in one way or another. Unmotivated. Devoid of purpose or meaning - flotsam of the modern world - just drifting. But that thread, that shared understanding, connected you to other anons in a way that it didn't with normal people. There was shit like The Well-Cultured Anonymous, an earnest effort by anons to help other anons unfuck themselves. Anons encouraged other anons to find purpose and meaning in their lives. Years ago I tried to give anons help and advice the same way that other anons had helped me. I had hoped that they would, in turn, carry it forward and help the next generation of "weird kids" to better themselves. I no longer feel this way. The anger that anons feel doesn't dissipate or drive them. Rather it feels like it's compounding. Their rage is directed back in on itself and becomes magnified. They no longer seem to want to escape from their misery, or even try. The ones that do are crucified as "normies" or "chads". Now they are like crabs in a bucket. If one tries to escape the others drag him back down.

Assuming that the original wave of 4chan posters were somewhere between 15 to 25 years old then most would be somewhere in their late 30s if not 40s by now. By the same metric most anons from the "golden age" of 4chan (00s up to the early 10s) would now be in their late 20s. I wonder what became of them all. I wonder how many anons never made it. That one kid with the rainbow face mask who ate a shotgun in front of a blue tarpaulin. Lowtax went out the same way. Or the anon who set himself on fire in his dorm. Zyzz died of a heart attack. All the an hero threads, some of them had to have gone through with it, or were lost to drugs or alcohol or their own demons somewhere along the way. Inversely how many made it and did something with their lives? How many bought a home? got married or had children? Mandalore, SSeth, ExaminedLifeOfGaming/Hoplopfheil and shoe0nhead are confirmed former channers, as are ContraPoints and Shaun. Those are all the ones off the top of my head, but there are definitely others. Moot keeps a low profile these days and seems to be doing well. I hope that one day all anons will find happiness.

There are users on the site now that are younger than the site itself. They weren't alive during the dot com crash of the 90s, the new millennium or 9/11 either. They don't remember the GFC or the start of the Iraq or Afghanistan Wars. Their generation has never known a world without ubiquitous internet access. The internet that they were raised on is highly curated and sanitized. In a lot of ways i feel sorry for them. The world they're going to inherit from us is severely more fucked up than the one our parents left us.

Typing all of this shit out makes me feel like an old man yelling at a cloud. I'm definitely looking at this with rose tinted glasses. There was a lot of stupid bullshit, even back then. I don't regret the time that i wasted hanging out there. The site should die, it has long since lost any of its relevancy or usefulness. I would rather see it die than languish and as a shadow of its former self. It was fun while it lasted. Kiwi Farms carries on alone. Floating above an ocean of piss. Glory to Null. One thousand years life.

Autumn ends:
frogs settle down
into the earth
 
If you told me that from 2016 onwards /pol/ would-
-start supporting islamic groups like the Taliban
-turn their backs on nations they called "based" and the like as with Poland on a whime
-simp for a nigger running for president and his gay spic friend
-hating a neo nazi group fighting to protect it's nation as with Azov
-and support Communist governments like China
-and start hating people wanting to own guns as with the shitflinging between /k/ and /pol/
I would've called you a fucking fag, but real life is chaotic, I honestly fear what retarded takes /pol/ will come up with in 3-5 years.
They love the radical muslims and just like Reddit, every time you mention Christianity you get swarmed with replies calling you a christcuck. There was a year-long campaign to demonize Christianity and associate it with LGBT, bots were posting some faggot tranny totally legit tiktok "pastors" and it worked like a charm. Nowadays the majority of /pol/ think Christianity=Globohomo.
They say they hate redditors but they are proud atheists and the only group more proud than the atheists are the Pagans of /pol/, very much like every other redditor.
And don't even get me started on all the absolute schitzo posts that hit bump limit, like how Artificial Intelligence is the antichrist because electricity is demon energy and computers are full of trapped demons.
It's all SO unauthentic, so blatantly non-human and obviously very carefully tailored to repel any new visitors and only attract bottom of the barrel conspiracy freaks and double digit iq morons.
Oldfag anons either just left or visit every once in a while in a happening thread, like the Darrel Brooks trial.

This picture illustrates the type of attacks /pol/ has been subjected to ever since 2016
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So what you are telling me is that the eternal Anglo has been doing the gayest ops through a taxpayer-funded University operated study to shit up message boards because Anglos never want to have an honest debate even on shitposting sites?
 
So what you are telling me is that the eternal Anglo has been doing the gayest ops through a taxpayer-funded University operated study to shit up message boards because Anglos never want to have an honest debate even on shitposting sites?
Factually incorrect, we all know the Dutch and the Irish are behind everything, It's irish gayops to disprove the Anglo's attempt at stopping celts from tainting civilization, thus they created the "enteral anglo" and "wasp" to disregarde any criticism of the Irish and they'll always go on about "oi laddy the potato famine" (really? 4 million irish people starved? that sounds way to high). People who go on about anglos have clearly never taken the Green Pill.
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Factually incorrect, we all know the Dutch and the Irish are behind everything, It's irish gayops to disprove the Anglo's attempt at stopping celts from tainting civilization, thus they created the "enteral anglo" and "wasp" to disregarde any criticism of the Irish and they'll always go on about "oi laddy the potato famine" (really? 4 million irish people starved? that sounds way to high). People who go on about anglos have clearly never taken the Green Pill.
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Begorrah laddie! The WASPs know! Shut it down!
 
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