Honestly, I find everyone constantly talking about how 4chan just ain't what it used to be, man, kind of hilarious. Like, be honest, what sites still retain their original-ish mood and humour after 10+ years or so? Smaller forums, maybe, but then you go there and notice a ton of people who have an unhealthy obsession with the "culture" of the place and don't realise there are sites beyond their own. One day Kiwifarms will also be full of unbearable faggots (yes, yes, I know, always has been) and people will look back and go all nostalgic for the site as it was some 10 years ago. I just don't get all the arguing over the state of websites, it feels weird. Every social website has shitty mods and shitty janitors and a large number of shitty users and eventually shitty admins.