AI Art Seething General

[Da Grim Reaper]

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[Neurotypical Mantis]

the palworld ripoff niggers are gonna have a fucking conniption once they see that every single genshin/honkai/whatever the fuck character is a blatant ripoff because chinks can't think of anything original to save their life

 

[ToroidalBoat]

ripoff

Ironic that wannabe commies seem to be such strong supporters of "intellectual property", such as copyright.

(so much so they think some ways and traditions themselves should be the "exclusive property" of "marginalized groups" in perpetuity)

 

[TapewormBillie]

You know, I got a feeling that the anti-AI thing is going to peak this year, especially with this Taylor Swift bullshit, so this thread's going to blast through 100 pages at some point. But by this point next year, the anti-AI fags will be demoralized to the point that there's basically no resistance anymore.
I'm thinking that the biggest reason is that AI is just shitty right now. I tried GPT and Bing Image Creator, and it was pretty shit. Ai can't do basic shit, and coasts on the cool factor of the shit it can do, like a party trick. You can clearly tell when someone is using AI and trying to pass it off as their own effort.
"Okay, your art is great! I'd like to buy a commission. Gimme your character, but in the Avengers and in a fight."
"Sorry bro, that's too hard, and i'm just doing this for myself."
Looks at art, literally Michelangelo-tier beauty, "Dude, I'm just asking you to pose your character and put them in the Avengers."
"Sorry bro, maybe some other time."
Because it just can't do complex scenes or consistently draw five fingers or do text.

But it's not going to be shit forever. That's what so many artistes don't seem to get. They have it in their mind that AI is just going to stop getting better magically tomorrow, and then 5 years from now we're all going to look back and laugh at AI art as some psychotic fad while AIbros are all in the breadline because the industry collapsed. Literally this exact argument happened in a Discord group. This hardcore leftist Anti-AI fag was talking about how AI companies were having a stock meltdown recently (ignoring that tech companies as a whole are) and celebrating that "AI is finally on its way out and common sense is coming back."
I don't even understand how divorced from reality you have to be to think that AI is failing right now, but the coping is unreal among artists. They need AI to fail. They'll rewrite reality in front of their eyes to make AI fail. So I think that when it doesn't, they're going to give up, and then when it gets 10x better, they're not even going to bother putting in the effort raging at it. I'd rather it not come to that, but that's the reality that Twitter artists are making for themselves.

Instead of raging constantly at AIbros for using AI, they could just simply have gone on making art in their own time because no one's forcing anyone to use AI or not use AI. AIbros being shitty and obnoxious about it can get slapped down, but raging at the very existence of AI is going to lead to this, mark my words. There's going to come a point when AI is actually so good that no one can even tell when AI is being used anymore, and artists will become so paranoid and psychotic that they'll start eating their own to the point of total demoralization.

 

[Creative Username]

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It seems to be starting to hit a point where it's going to get slightly better at making consistent images with diminishing returns over a long period. Major breakthroughs and endless investment are needed to fix these consistency and instruction-following defects, and even then it'll probably never be truly ironed out, at least with the current methods. Future methods may very well have similar problems, just the ability to spit out beautifully-shaded but fucked-up geometry slightly faster, at higher resolutions, and (for modalities with a time dimension) for longer durations.

In short: It makes some pretty pictures but tard-wrangling it is nigh-impossible. In fact, I think one of the reasons Microsoft is making their ML generator free-to-use is to get people to chudpost with it, so they can develop better mean word filters and learn how to constrain the generators to never do any heccin bigotry. These methods will be usable for other things, however.

 

[TapewormBillie]

It's more being able to follow what you write. I'm guessing that the day DALLE can make an "action" image of more than one character doing something like this

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is when the anti AI people will finally give up. Before then when it's obvious that AI has strong limitations, there's still a chance.
Right now, I think AI images have gotten about as realistic as it's possible to get, and AIbros gawking at how "much more photorealistic" the new Midjourney is compared to the last ultraphotorealistic Midjourney makes me cringe. I'm infinitely more impressed by AI making shitty doodle images than I am hyperrealistic ones, and I'll be impressed when an AI can make a comic that feels like a comic instead of a bunch of singular characters poorly composed inside of an image never making any complex poses.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Maybe someone has said this already, so apologies if that's the case: artists (and especially pornography """artists""", between quotes) are all angry because they see their income going away all thanks to a computer. Yet a machine has its uses, and whatnot. There is no reason for them to be upset.

They should see this opportunity for they to get better, offer something else, or go into other areas.

 

[X Prime]

Maybe someone has said this already, so apologies if that's the case: artists (and especially pornography """artists""", between quotes) are all angry because they see their income going away all thanks to a computer. Yet a machine has its uses, and whatnot. There is no reason for them to be upset.

I can honestly see why porn artists are freaking out. They have been able to coast on low-effort character requests for ages.

Now that you can get a LORA made of your favorite waifu getting plowed in 20 different positions for a fraction of the cost and at higher quality than paying for those 20 images separately, they're fucked.

However, as far as I know Stable Diffusion cannot make a consistent background at different angles for shit right now. So you can't really do a comic, for example. I would like to be proven wrong, though.

 

[Tad Loaf]

Maybe someone has said this already, so apologies if that's the case: artists (and especially pornography """artists""", between quotes) are all angry because they see their income going away all thanks to a computer. Yet a machine has its uses, and whatnot. There is no reason for them to be upset.

They should see this opportunity for they to get better, offer something else, or go into other areas.

AI will eventually completely wipe out the average/mediocre artist, but the really stand out and great ones will still be able to make a living off it. I think even the big artist know this and aren't TOO concerned but still cry about it just to virtue signal with their peers (also because they have nothing to lose by bitching about it)

 

[X Prime]

The bigger issue, I think, is that a great artist starts out as average. I could theoretically see a real problem with this stymieing the growth of some artists.

Of course, that can be instantly countered by the observation that the way the Internet rewards artists already does that for many people.

 

[Tad Loaf]

The bigger issue, I think, is that a great artist starts out as average. I could theoretically see a real problem with this stymieing the growth of some artists.

Of course, that can be instantly countered by the observation that the way the Internet rewards artists already does that for many people.

We'll definitely have less people going into it but at the same time the ones who still do it will be of a better character for it, the amount of people getting into it solely for financial or social profit will be the biggest decrease.

 

[Catgirls are Love]

However, as far as I know Stable Diffusion cannot make a consistent background at different angles for shit right now. So you can't really do a comic, for example. I would like to be proven wrong, though.

So long as you aren't using an art style with notable lighting/shadow gradients you could probably get Stable Diffusion to render your characters on a greenscreen equivalent to combine with something else, like environments created in Unity/Unreal/other 3D engine of choice with a few filters slapped on to match the look and feel of what Stable Diffusion is generating. Or, you could use the screenshots of the environment as the basis for img2img, scribble on rough poses for characters then run the thing with your character LoRAs through img2img and get a bit more consistency that way and not have to worry about the lighting other than how the model might naturally mess it up.

It's currently far from the level of "4 panel comic, prompt of [characters] in [pose] in [environment] doing [thing]", but if you don't mind some planning and elbow grease it's definitely possible.

 

[Biggie Smalls' Taint]

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"it's a bit disheartening that they aren't working with voice actors atm"
His beef is with the fact that he isn't involving voice actors in his work. Would he still be concern posting on twitter if the animator had done all the voices himself instead of ai? No voice actors involved there, either.

 

[AnOminous]

There is no reason for them to be upset.

Their income going away is definitely a reason to be upset. Or if you're me, to laugh my ass off at what a bunch of pathetic losers they are and what shitty artists they are. Their tears are yummy.

The bigger issue, I think, is that a great artist starts out as average. I could theoretically see a real problem with this stymieing the growth of some artists.

Git gud.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Their income going away is definitely a reason to be upset. Or if you're me, to laugh my ass off at what a bunch of pathetic losers they are and what shitty artists they are. Their tears are yummy.

Git gud.

Yeah, that's a good point. I especially like how some of them became paragorns of virtue overnight.

 

[Local Degenerate]

Speaking as an artist (used in the nebulous term, I can't draw to save my fuckin' life) myself, it's always fucking baffled me that people are so terrified of AI art. I had a brief moment of being scared of it for my career, before I realized that AI art is tomorrows hollywood boardroom. Sure, it's FUNCTIONAL, and will improve, but it'll never have the heart or soul that an actual artist can put into it.

I worry about AI art taking away my easy money creating shlock garbage for the masses. I don't worry about AI art taking away my canvas for expression. Worst case scenario, I get a real job, oh darn. Can't stop me from creating for the love of it.

Also, not for nothing, but we've had computer singing for going on twenty years now, and now, with AI, we can make any voice sing any song like an angel. The fact is, I can go to youtube right now and look up Frank Sinatra singing any modern song I want, even cringe FNAF shit. And yet, I still see the full gambit of music every day. From actual passionate people belting their soul out, bringing tears even from my desiccated ass heart, down to nasal droning shit you hear on nig-stations.

AI will never replace artists. It likely won't even filter out the garbage. The only people who need to fear AI art are grifters using art as a way to bilk retards.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

but it'll never have the heart or soul that an actual artist can put into it.

Which you can't see anyway. It's just a concept.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

before I realized that AI art is tomorrows hollywood boardroom. Sure, it's FUNCTIONAL, and will improve, but it'll never have the heart or soul that an actual artist can put into it.

you say that like the hollywood boardrooms actually give a shit about what a person thinks about a project and not the fuckload of money it could make in the process

 

[AnOminous]

I worry about AI art taking away my easy money creating shlock garbage for the masses. I don't worry about AI art taking away my canvas for expression. Worst case scenario, I get a real job, oh darn. Can't stop me from creating for the love of it.

I think you just captured the difference between an artist and a whore. An artist is not afraid of a soulless machine.\

Which you can't see anyway. It's just a concept.

And yet you feel it on a depth that cannot be simulated.

 

[Colon capital V]

Also, not for nothing, but we've had computer singing for going on twenty years now, and now, with AI, we can make any voice sing any song like an angel. The fact is, I can go to youtube right now and look up Frank Sinatra singing any modern song I want, even cringe FNAF shit. And yet, I still see the full gambit of music every day. From actual passionate people belting their soul out, bringing tears even from my desiccated ass heart, down to nasal droning shit you hear on nig-stations.

Yeah that's a point I wanted to bring up as well, you hear all these drawers and painters malding about AI and yet you don't hear a single fucking peep about musicians loosing their shit when AI audio comes around. Shit, if you want a fair comparison, you can prompt a AI bot with text right now and it'll spit out a song of your choosing, and even still you don't ever hear musicians complaining about AI taking their jobs. Now it could be argued that music as a creative medium is generally less valued compared to visual media, which is why artists drawing porn would be worried for their income compared to musicians who have come to accept that making a living for their audio work isn't feasible unless you have some other asset on you to make you more valuable for hire. But like Local Degenerate says, music has gone through a lot of interesting advancements over the years and I think AI really is the next step that opens up a lot of new avenues for musicians like what Autotune did when that came out.