Alcoholism Support Thread - Down the hatch

I had this this thing that i can only call the thirst. I am old and i played ttrpg of vampire masquerade. And as retarded as it sounds my alcohol consumption, to my mind became the equivalent to the thirst. I could (in my mind) drink 40k litres of beer and 5400 white russians. One thing i can say is. Take it one day at a time, or one hour at a time. And if you fall, then it's not the end of the world. I know these are platitudes that are said many times, and to some common sense. You will fall, you will fuck up, but you will never ¨fail the test¨. The doors are always open, there are people that have been there and understand. If you have path that gets you to quote unquote normal take it. Whatever it is. Whatever it takes for you to turn around. Welp here was my TED talk. You can DM me if you wanna more talk etc. Can't guarantee i can help but i will listen. If nothing else.
 
Um I drank a bunch of shit and passed out and when I woke up the world was covered in spiders for like half an hour how long do I have to live is that due to the liquid jew or something else, asking for a friend
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Kind of a necropost, but did you happen to take Benadryl for sleep? Taking a lot of diphenhydramine frequently causes hallucinations of spiders.

At my worst drinking, I did get some closed-eye hallucinations and auditory hallucinations. That's usually a sign that you should stop drinking for good because it can lead to psychosis down the line. There's a very old and very handicapped guy who goes to my AA meetings and he occasionally starts screaming and freaking out because he's seeing shit. Most of the time he's talking nonsense because his brain is that fried. In any case, I hope you decide to stop drinking and get some help.

I'm still sober and it's a helluva lot better than when I was boozing. No one ever says "yeah, my life was going horribly until I started drinking."
 
did you happen to take Benadryl for sleep?
No nothing and it's happening every time I wake up now :stress:
I just have to cover my eyes and wait like half an hour til they go away
I'm seeing fucking monsters during the day too it scares the shit out of me
I hope you decide to stop drinking and get some help.
I'm really starting to consider it I almost got arrested yesterday for being a drunken fucking trainwreck in public
Refer to Nick Rekeita. Pull up. You can and will be that guy if you continue to go down this path.
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No nothing and it's happening every time I wake up now :stress:
I just have to cover my eyes and wait like half an hour til they go away
I'm seeing fucking monsters during the day too it scares the shit out of me

I'm really starting to consider it I almost got arrested yesterday for being a drunken fucking trainwreck in public

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I strongly encourage you get medical help with your drinking. If you are hallucinating, then cold turkey cessation could be deadly.
 
I don't really think it's that bad, I'm not like biting my tongue off grand mal seizing or anything
Negative ghost rider. Visual hallucinations are end stage alcohol symptoms. The neurons. Between your Visual cortex and your brain are completely misfiring. The fact that they are occurring after you've sobered up is actually very serious.

Unironically you should probably present to the emergency room. They will need to scan for what causing the issue. It may not even be the alcohol itself. Other things can cause it too, and none of those other things are good. If it is the alcohol though, you will need inpatient detox.
 
I'm in a shitty situation.

I have a friend in the program who was basically the only person I could relate to. Basically the world is a shitty place and we just have to keep doing our best and accept that just because everything else is shit doesn't mean we can give up. Everywhere we look there are people getting ahead in life by being dishonest and just shitty people. It's hard to keep doing the hard thing when other people take shortcuts and keep getting rewarded.

Well, he finally had enough and snapped. He flipped out and was yelling at people outside of the meeting. He got in one woman's face and she ended up calling the cops. He went to jail for making threats, menacing, and noise ordinance violation. Not really major crimes but he's now banned from the property.

I saw him in town on Thursday and he told me how much he loved me and how everyone else can go eat shit. I didn't know what to say to him other than just move on from it and learn from his mistake. Take care of himself and don't drink. He asked for my phone number and I gave it to him.

Well, now he's been calling me and texting me. "Sparkletor, you are the embodiment of the Big Book. I respect you so much. Call me next time you're in town and we'll hang out." Stuff like that. It's really weird and I don't know what to do or say. We never hung out or anything but now I'm like the only friend he has.

I really don't have the time or energy to babysit this dude. It feels wrong to abandon him but it also feels wrong to be associated with him now.
 
Unironically you should probably present to the emergency room.
My job is carting retards to and from the ER, I think I have a pretty good idea of when that's appropriate and when it's not. My vitals are stable and I'm not currently bleeding to death, I'm good
If it is the alcohol though, you will need inpatient detox.
I can't afford that shit and I'll get fired if I take one more day off of work even with a doctor's note
Another beer it is :semperfidelis:
 
I'm in a shitty situation.

I have a friend in the program who was basically the only person I could relate to. Basically the world is a shitty place and we just have to keep doing our best and accept that just because everything else is shit doesn't mean we can give up. Everywhere we look there are people getting ahead in life by being dishonest and just shitty people. It's hard to keep doing the hard thing when other people take shortcuts and keep getting rewarded.

Well, he finally had enough and snapped. He flipped out and was yelling at people outside of the meeting. He got in one woman's face and she ended up calling the cops. He went to jail for making threats, menacing, and noise ordinance violation. Not really major crimes but he's now banned from the property.

I saw him in town on Thursday and he told me how much he loved me and how everyone else can go eat shit. I didn't know what to say to him other than just move on from it and learn from his mistake. Take care of himself and don't drink. He asked for my phone number and I gave it to him.

Well, now he's been calling me and texting me. "Sparkletor, you are the embodiment of the Big Book. I respect you so much. Call me next time you're in town and we'll hang out." Stuff like that. It's really weird and I don't know what to do or say. We never hung out or anything but now I'm like the only friend he has.

I really don't have the time or energy to babysit this dude. It feels wrong to abandon him but it also feels wrong to be associated with him now.
Hey man, I'm sorry to say this if you really like the guy, but that was absolutely not a good dude to attach yourself to if sobriety is the goal. He's clearly self-destructing and "the world sucks" is a shitty mindset.

No shit the world sucks. The world you're experiencing is drunk, high, or hungover. Maybe you suck. Maybe you don't have to suck. Stop surrounding yourself with those people.

If that dude was so toxic that an entire group of people who can absolutely relate with him kicked him out, you might reconsider. Cut him off and focus on you. He's gonna drag you down, and you're starting to get that.
 
I don't really think it's that bad, I'm not like biting my tongue off grand mal seizing or anything
Yet. If you are hallucinating, @mindlessobserver is dead right: go to the ER.
I really don't have the time or energy to babysit this dude. It feels wrong to abandon him but it also feels wrong to be associated with him now
It sounds like what you need to do is explain to the guy that you can't give him the amount of attention he wants, or try to help him find a sponsor. Either way, you need to set boundaries and not let this guy drag you down.

If he got banned from a meeting, that probably means he was doing other stuff. I know guys who got into brawls at my place and they were allowed to come back.
 
I can't afford that shit and I'll get fired if I take one more day off of work even with a doctor's note
A very smart mechanic once told me that it is always cheaper to get things looked over even if you don't think something is wrong. Because if something is wrong it can be fixed. But if you wait for that check engine light, things haven't just gone wrong, they've gotten fucked. And fixing fucked is way more expensive then fixing wrong.
 
A very smart mechanic once told me that it is always cheaper to get things looked over even if you don't think something is wrong. Because if something is wrong it can be fixed. But if you wait for that check engine light, things haven't just gone wrong, they've gotten fucked. And fixing fucked is way more expensive then fixing wrong.
It's easier to find another job than it is to deal with end-stage alcoholism.

Seriously: go to a meeting a listen to some of the ways alcoholics tried to hide their drinking. It's a lot of work. Or how these guys tried to manage their lives while drinking a handle each day. It's so much easier to get help and stay sober.
 
Interesting thread, I will write a cross post from another non-public part of the forums I made:
For those that have tried several routes including Acamprosate, Naltrexone etc and more extreme measures and haven't found a solution (or haven't even gone as far as those options): find a doctor who will prescribe you Baclofen (Lioresel): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baclofen off-label. If your doctor says they won't prescribe it to you, then call them a retard and find another and tell them to read the wikipedia page and do some research because its a fairly obscure/novel treatment that can have promising results for some people.

I used to be a prolific drinker and struggled with it a lot, I tried many things and was also on antidepressants (which I found to amplify the amount of alcohol I could drink and greatly increased my desire to drink). I only started drinking heavily after a traumatic event happened and found a sort of "superpower" when I did because it made my anxiety go away, I have a very high anxiety level naturally (and especially when going to social gatherings etc), I used alcohol to overcome that, but eventually it gets out of hand rather quickly and depressive drinking starts happening.

Baclofen is a muscle relaxant for people with spinal injury or multiple sclerosis. It's non addictive and not habit-forming (although with regular use can supposedly be a bit hard to come off of I have heard, but I don't know how true that is). It works on the same part of the brain that alcohol does (GABA). You can use it in place of drinking when going out and it makes socializing a hell of a lot easier and can reduce anxiety as well. Because it is not addictive/habit forming you can basically take it forever.

For hardcore drinkers you would probably need to taper off first or try to figure out how to take it without combining it with alcohol (ask a doctor)

The French have been using it for quite a while and it has had a fair few success stories. It's a very interesting medication and some guy wrote a book about how it cured his alcoholism, there have been a few studies that haven't been able to replicate its success so it doesn't work for everyone.

In the book the guy wrote (who basically found out about this treatment) I believe he took hardcore doses, but at least for me that wasn't necessary. It has dramatically reduced my interest in alcohol significantly, and especially in the early days I could actually go out to social gatherings and have zero interest in drinking. Because I take it daily though that effect isn't as great anymore but I have heard some people say that if you take it only 3-4 times per week you can keep that kind of effect. (If I want to have a drink, I just don't take the medication or wait 4 hours until it has left my body)

Some people get side effects, but I don't get any really (besides a small impact on my memory). It makes your sex last longer (for both sexes) and helps with anxiety for me (a lot more than any other medication did) and it can also cause euphoria (I'm not sure why they list that as a side effect). So your mileage may definitely vary.

The Guardian article I linked below explains a bit more, but the best part is that it doesn't require total abstinence (which many people argue is retarded to begin with anyway)

A lot of the studies and literature have crazy high doses, but I am on 75mg per day and have been for months and it works perfect.

- https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/sep/16/baclofen-controversial-pill-cure-alcoholism
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baclofen

There's a lot more literature available about it online, but its inexpensive and definitely worth a try.

I started it in like October 2023 and my drinking cut down dramatically straight away since it allowed me to relax and mimicked the effect of being drunk to some extent (not really like you're tipsy, just your brain and body feel relaxed) and I eventually reached a point quite a while ago where I haven't had another drink nor the temptation to have any (I do have non-alcoholic beer which is actually quite nice). For people talking about GABA supplements and stuff like that, they won't really do that much. This stuff is the fucking real deal and depending on the person can help dramatically.
 
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No nothing and it's happening every time I wake up now :stress:
I just have to cover my eyes and wait like half an hour til they go away
I'm seeing fucking monsters during the day too it scares the shit out of me

I'm really starting to consider it I almost got arrested yesterday for being a drunken fucking trainwreck in public

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As others have said, go to an emergency room ASAP. You can't fuck around with shit like this. I know a guy who can't even walk anymore and is the same age as me. At the very least ask chatgpt about vitamin supplements that could help (typically Vitamin B) because drinking causes severe deficiencies of those sort of things and they can result in "really, really bad shit" to you.
 
For people talking about GABA supplements and stuff like that, they won't really do that much. This stuff is the fucking real deal and depending on the person can help dramatically.
Baclofen is a GABA-B agonist, so it's very similar to alcohol in its mechanism of action. It makes sense that it would make you feel better. I'd be very careful getting off that if you ever decide to. Taper down if anything. I'm not sure if it's a full agonist or partial, but GABA rebound can lead to status epilecticus.
 
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Baclofen is a GABA-B agonist, so it's very similar to alcohol in its mechanism of action. It makes sense that it would make you feel better. I'd be very careful getting off that if you ever decide to. Taper down if anything. I'm not sure if it's a full agonist or partial, but GABA rebound can lead to status epilecticus.
I'm with YGD on this. Replacing one GABA agonist with another is not a good idea and doesn't treat the underlying desire to numb yourself.
 
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