Amazon's Invincible - thoughts?

What I really appreciated it for was that The Plutonian wasn’t just “Superman is le evil alien” like Brightburn or “Superman is le evil because Lois died”, he tried but just couldn’t bear the responsibility and decided ‘fuck it’. It wasn’t one thing that made him crash out, it was many things adding up and one final broken shoelace that did it.
If it were to be adapted though, let’s be real here the writers would have some work to do.
Ironically enough The Boys' Amazon version of Homelander is closer to the Plutonian than he is to the comic Homelander in terms of characterization.
 
I assume he had doubts about the empire at some point after meeting Debbie. Doesn't hurt to have a backup plan.
Okay. The Viltrum have exactly one traitor in about a thousand years. He is so unique that you can say "The Betrayer" and everybody will know who you mean. It is completely unknown for a Viltrumite to abandon his post. Nevertheless, Nolan thinks, "might as well keep my options open" and constructs a plan for a scenario in which he turns traitor, but doesn't have time to explain all of the Viltrumites' weaknesses personally, but does have time to cryptically mumble "read my books" to somebody who has access to his books, trusting that they will be able to figure it out. He thinks that this is more likely than a situation where he remains loyal to the empire, but an enemy figures out his weaknesses from the books he wrote.

Somehow, this exact scenario does in fact come to pass! Amazing planning. But it has no actual impact on the plot, because he goes and finds the weaknesses himself.

tbh, I think Kirkman wrote this into the comics with no real plan of how it was going to play out, and it was left in the cartoon because it gives Nolan some more appearances (via flashback) when fuck all was going on with his story. It makes zero sense though.

I see a lot of people complaining about Thragg's voice, but I like it the way it is. People want something more gruff and threatening, but I think the softer voice works better. Thragg knows he's the toughest bastard in whatever room he walks into, so there's no need to put on airs.
He is excellent. Perfect, even. I don't even know who it is, but apparently they cast exactly the right guy instead of getting yet another celebrity meme actor.

The issue with Invincible isn’t that it’s capeshit. It’s a smug, embarrassed parody. Its source material is smug as shit about not being like other comics, but that amounts to being sarcastic about cliches.

It’s no Venture Bros. where it actually is a loving parody.
Nah.

It really is unironic unabashed capeshit, just edgy. Here's the key: Nolan isn't Superman, Mark is Superman. Nolan is Zod, maybe. I see this thread giving Mark shit for being "whiny" or whatever, but the only thing he ever gets depressed about is that maybe he isn't a good person. He doesn't bitch about all the suffering he has to endure or how hard it is to do the right thing. Despite all the dismemberment and swearwords etc, it's supposed to be an optimistic story where the good guys triumph by doing the right thing. There is a lot of room to assert that Kirkman perhaps fucked this up a bit (or a lot), but we'll see how the rest of the show plays out.
 
tbh, I think Kirkman wrote this into the comics with no real plan of how it was going to play out, and it was left in the cartoon because it gives Nolan some more appearances (via flashback) when fuck all was going on with his story. It makes zero sense though.
It was very convenient. The show's already changed some shit from the comics so they probably could've done it here too.
 
Slave labor. Or lack of it since they've said they're not using that North Korean studio anymore.
I dunno, man. I've given up on the show having some parts better than the comics at this point. Even looking back on season 1, shit was way too melodramatic. It's just so obvious now because they're dragging the hell out of Nolan's redemption arc and having an "emotional" ten minute scene every episode.

The comic has better visuals than the actual most visual medium's version now.
why am i saying now?
the comic always looked better
yes, even the scratchy dot eyes cheap beginning art
Fucking CNN urnalists ruin everything, man. Sacking those poor North Korean animators of a job after a expose.
 
Anyone know the budget of this trash? Because its worse than 1999 flash animation.
They're spending the budget on voice actors and unfortunately that is probably the best business decision.

Pretty much everybody talking about this show online and even offline advertises the show to their friends by talking about stuff like Optimus Prime. It works.
At the very least they're saving some animation budget for key moments in the story.
 
I see a lot of people complaining about Thragg's voice, but I like it the way it is. People want something more gruff and threatening, but I think the softer voice works better. Thragg knows he's the toughest bastard in whatever room he walks into, so there's no need to put on airs.
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Black people having an existential crisis over being compared to Viltrumites.


Its like a crime boss ordering his drink with lots of sugar and cream.

Nothing to prove. He is confident and does what he pleases.
Retarded Twitter drama. Context: The one who did the Black Viltrumites edit was a black dude and he did it to mock the idea of how a japanese Twitter describes black people. The MugenLord guy saw an opportunity to use that useless checkmark of his and schizocomplain online. There are various feelings the japs have towards blacks and politics and whatever, but what is occurring here is pointless Twitter beef between some dude with not-so-subtle race related rape fantasies and some whiny bitch who has to constantly make everything about him/his race. The cretins of Twitter are not people, so nobody is actually having an existential crisis. There are even edits whitewashing the original black Viltrumite Lucan to make memes. Even Reddit understood the joke/was clowning on them.
 
The viltrimute "Eugenics by randomized murder." thing is so fucking retarded. They're supposed to be a hyper advanced civilization and there's no way they would have ever even gotten to that point if they're this fucking dumb.

Randomized murder especially the way it gets portrayed favours luck and cowardice more than it does actual strength and fitness. Not only does this make them retarded, it also makes their very existence a plothole. If they are this genetically powerful they cannot be this retarded and if they are this retarded they cannot be that genetically powerful.

An actual superman eugenics civilization that uses every method imaginable from abortion, designer babies, gene editing, selective optimized breeding, etc. Would have been far more intresting than fucking neaderthalls that spend every waking moment killing the shit out of another somehow discovering FTL travel.

Fucking hell, even star trek realized this and actually developed klingons properly like portraying klingon lawyers being obessed with legal victory instead of battle victory viewing the law as another form of mental combat because a civilization that only cares about killing one another isn't a fucking civilization.

The entire viltrum plotline pissess me off because its so fucking stupid it actually takes me out of the story.
 
It's weird because season 1 Immortal would unironically be a better candidate than almost half of the individual fighters here by virtue of not being a TOTAL glass cannon, (matter of fact, just give him or Nolan Tech Jacket's armor instead and this show is OVER) but now he canonically gets no-diffed by a mark that was explicitly weaker than main mark at the time who was probably weaker than Nolan, so he'd somehow be the first one dying.
Immortal's tier relative to viltrumites is all over the fucking place. He is just Krillin, the human who should be strong in a vacuum but is constantly worfed and killed to gas up the alien villain of the week.
 
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