Amazon's Invincible - thoughts?

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Wouldnt demons be effective fighters against Viltrumites since most of their weapons and powers would be magic/hell based and thus would easily by pass Viltrumite invulnerability? Not even mentioning most Viltrumites are no doubt dripping in sin so things like Hellfire should def. absolutely melt them like butter.

People keep acting like Superman cant be stopped without Kryptonite when magic and psychic powers have demonstrated to being able to affect him just like anyone else.
I mean demons in Invincible are just 6 lizardpeople that live in a cave and can't beat a random c-tier baddy that even Mark just one shots despite his wildly fluctuating powerlevel, so I'm afraid that they are worth jackshit against literally anyone.
Thinking about it the entire hell episode feels like a shitty adaption of DC's Day of Judgement where among other things Superman and a few other people go to hell and fight Cerberus. The difference is that this comic actually treated the demons like they are dangerous, and well they were also actual demons who came from actual hell.
 
I mean demons in Invincible are just 6 lizardpeople that live in a cave and can't beat a random c-tier baddy that even Mark just one shots despite his wildly fluctuating powerlevel, so I'm afraid that they are worth jackshit against literally anyone.

Which doesnt make much sense until you remember that Robert Kirkmann is a nihilist* so that checks out. I mean, when it comes to Heaven and Hell, any natives from there should find most power levels in the mortal realm to be absolutely laughable so Viltrumites are just jacked up space barbarians who are just as mortal as anyone else (and whose souls burn all the same).

I guess if I gotta give DC some credit, they do treat their more "abstract" and "divine based" characters as the practically untouchable mfs that they should be. Superman is OP but next to Lucifer Morningstar, he can snap his fingers and Superman and Krypton as a whole are erased from ever existing.

A huge problem with Invincible as an universe is that it seems to be written around the fact the Viltrumites NEED to be unstoppable when that limits creativity at the end of the day. Fuck, may I remind you all that, in the comics at least, they had Mark variant apparently kill the Spawn from his universe? When we know that Spawn, at his weakest, is still plenty capable of dealing with a Mark variant?

You can argue that it just so "happened" that Spawn was literally the weakest in the multiverse but I think Kirkmann just reaaaally wants to make his kryptonian knock offs borderline unstoppable when they really shouldnt be in a world that isnt limited by contrivences

*I was surprised he wasnt jewish, so he is just a "take that, dad" manchild
 
I've said it before, I'll say it a million times.
Invincible is the comic book for Comic Book "fans". the "Wow! It's so subversive! It breaks so much new ground!" mob who never actually read a fucking comicbook in their life. The only thing that Invincible had going for it is that unlike normal Comic Books, you didn't need to read a dozen concurrent comics to know wtf is happening*.
Hell I was gonna say it was the first superhero comic to randomly tackle abortion in a hated and hamfisted way, but by technicality, One More Day's magical devil powered abortion was first.
It's derivative trash for the most part.

*Except Brit, Tech Jacket, Guarding the Globe, Invincible Universe, Wolf-Man and finally Atom Eve & Rex Splode
 
I've said it before, I'll say it a million times.
Invincible is the comic book for Comic Book "fans". the "Wow! It's so subversive! It breaks so much new ground!" mob who never actually read a fucking comicbook in their life. The only thing that Invincible had going for it is that unlike normal Comic Books, you didn't need to read a dozen concurrent comics to know wtf is happening*.
Hell I was gonna say it was the first superhero comic to randomly tackle abortion in a hated and hamfisted way, but by technicality, One More Day's magical devil powered abortion was first.
It's derivative trash for the most part.

*Except Brit, Tech Jacket, Guarding the Globe, Invincible Universe, Wolf-Man and finally Atom Eve & Rex Splode
the big thing with the comic, and the reason I still kinda like it, is the fact that it fucking ends. unlike the infinite rebooting of batman for example.
 
the big thing with the comic, and the reason I still kinda like it, is the fact that it fucking ends. unlike the infinite rebooting of batman for example.
That's about the one positive thing from Kirkman, and the sole way to determine he's actually not Jewish and willing to drag out a story until society itself collapses.
In fact, he very much sprinted to the finale of the comic past a certain point. Is it a good ending? No, it undermines basically everything Mark should've learned, dooms Earth and proves both Thadeus and Thragg right at the same time as Mark decides to conquer the entire galaxy because (???) reasons. How many countless quadrillions would die as a result of Mark's decision to conquer the entire universe to "show them the right way of doing things"?
It's funny that Earth and humanity is shown to be the sole thing that grounds Viltrumites and stops them from their lunacy, so Mark leaves Earth with all the Viltrumites forever instead and becomes enlightened space tyrant man.
I will never grow tired of shitting on the ending because it's so fucking baffling. But at least it's an ending, and that's more than Batman, or Spider-Man, or Superman will ever get. Even if they do sometimes get one-offs where they are given the endings they are deserved, they are immediately undone.
 
Which doesnt make much sense until you remember that Robert Kirkmann is a nihilist* so that checks out. I mean, when it comes to Heaven and Hell, any natives from there should find most power levels in the mortal realm to be absolutely laughable so Viltrumites are just jacked up space barbarians who are just as mortal as anyone else (and whose souls burn all the same).
This pisses me off to no end, so many fictional universes just treat angels as winged humans with a few superpowers, usually portrayed in a negative light, or as naive buffoons being led around the nose by God.

When I think of an angel, I think divine, absolute power made manifest.

When one comes down, God means business and the target of God's ire in for the most biblical beatdown of their whole existence. There's a reason the catchphrase most often associated with angels is "Be not afraid."

It's funny that Earth and humanity is shown to be the sole thing that grounds Viltrumites and stops them from their lunacy, so Mark leaves Earth with all the Viltrumites forever instead and becomes enlightened space tyrant man.
Mark becoming a conqueror could have worked if the story had been building towards that, but that would require Kirman to admit people are not blank slates, which then would lead to uncomfortable questions about the nature of race and how it plays into the behavior of humans, and other sentient races.
 
This pisses me off to no end, so many fictional universes just treat angels as winged humans with a
Mark becoming a conqueror could have worked if the story had been building towards that, but that would require Kirman to admit people are not blank slates, which then would lead to uncomfortable questions about the nature of race and how it plays into the behavior of humans, and other sentient races.
Never ask a Viltrumite conqueror what ethnicity his partner is, lol.

But in all seriousness, the ending is such a shitshow that I was actually shocked. It felt like a slap in the face considering how adamant the story is of this set of beliefs. Mark starts off as an opposer of the system but then becomes the primary benefactor & promoter of it but for "good" now? Makes the whole story pointless, a full circle of tropes leading to the most expected/dissapointing ending.

Not like there aren't other ways to write an end for them.

1) one way would be to have Mark & the remaining Viltrumites stay on Earth as like a borderline angelic protector (not really interfering from day-to-day but stopping any serious threats from ever touching Earth). They remain to intermingle for generations, experiencing the constant cycle of love and heartache till the end of their days. It's not like they were even doing anything with their empire.

2) another way would have been to have the viltrumites die off. If Kirkman wasn't such a big bitch about religion (esp. Christianity), he could make a reverse fall of angels. Where the viltrumites lose their neverending lifespans but gain purpose, love, and peace. They can still keep their super strength & whatever, but by showcasing less violent mortality he would actually be almost philosophical.

But no. Mark ends up proving Thaeddus and Thragg right. A Viltrumite is a Viltrumite, no matter what. They're like Orcs but worse. No culture, no creed, no purpose, outside of fighting and breeding. They don't even have a unique language, look, or tongue (which even the mostly human Kryptonians & Saiyans did!). May Kirkman be the last comic of this clade of thinking to ever taste popularity.
 
Spider-Man
Spiderman 2099 had an ending funnily enough, where he becomes space hitler and sets off to conquer the stars or something.
And it was one of the few character endings marvel respected for a long while, to the point that every time he would show up in other media they just said it was a version of him from the past and not spider hitler.
 
Spiderman 2099 had an ending funnily enough, where he becomes space hitler and sets off to conquer the stars or something.
And it was one of the few character endings marvel respected for a long while, to the point that every time he would show up in other media they just said it was a version of him from the past and not spider hitler.
the next hitler really was mexican

nigger heil miguel!
 
But no. Mark ends up proving Thaeddus and Thragg right. A Viltrumite is a Viltrumite, no matter what. They're like Orcs but worse. No culture, no creed, no purpose, outside of fighting and breeding. They don't even have a unique language, look, or tongue (which even the mostly human Kryptonians & Saiyans did!). May Kirkman be the last comic of this clade of thinking to ever taste popularity.
Invincible came out and became popular right at the cusp of the complete destruction of the Western comic book industry.

Other than the Boys, which was its contemporary, I don't think there's been any more capeshit that broke containment, and other than Disney raiding the Marvel vault for the last few dregs of interesting characters and plots they can rape, nobody gives a shit about Western comics anymore.

The zoomers are all reading manga and watching anime, the only audience comic books have nowadays are woketards (that don't buy anything) and the buckbroken faggots that have been subjecting themselves to the hobby for decades and wouldn't know what to do without it, and they're a dying bred in the most literal sense.

I don't see anything past the 2010s gaining all that much traction if an animated or live-action adaptation were to be made, especially not with the waning normie interest in capeshit.
 
the buckbroken faggots that have been subjecting themselves to the hobby for decades and wouldn't know what to do without it, and they're a dying bred in the most literal sense.
You'd think this is a joke but it isn't. Apparently the most popular comic book streaming/piracy site, readcomiconline, has been taken down. In the top search results there was a reddit thread where people are acting like this is a second burning of the library of Alexandria.

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Like you're on a piracy subreddit and you have no idea where else to look for comic books outside of your ad infested first result on google shithole site?
 
Invincible came out and became popular right at the cusp of the complete destruction of the Western comic book industry.

Other than the Boys, which was its contemporary, I don't think there's been any more capeshit that broke containment, and other than Disney raiding the Marvel vault for the last few dregs of interesting characters and plots they can rape, nobody gives a shit about Western comics anymore.

The zoomers are all reading manga and watching anime, the only audience comic books have nowadays are woketards (that don't buy anything) and the buckbroken faggots that have been subjecting themselves to the hobby for decades and wouldn't know what to do without it, and they're a dying bred in the most literal sense.

I don't see anything past the 2010s gaining all that much traction if an animated or live-action adaptation were to be made, especially not with the waning normie interest in capeshit.
any issue now they're totally going to reverse one more day
no matter how many pauls and cuck storylines there are, right?
You'd think this is a joke but it isn't. Apparently the most popular comic book streaming/piracy site, readcomiconline, has been taken down. In the top search results there was a reddit thread where people are acting like this is a second burning of the library of Alexandria.


Like you're on a piracy subreddit and you have no idea where else to look for comic books outside of your ad infested first result on google shithole site?
There are a few sites and torrenting is a thing but RCO stood out more for having all the shit you'd typically want, kind of like hianime before it was taken down. It's a convenience thing really. Reddit, being reddit, is just being retarded.
Frankly, I don't really care because I read all I wanted to years ago and don't see myself reading anymore comics anytime soon.

That sounds like a ridiculous notion to anyone not in the comicspace, but you guys all know what I'm talking about. At this rate, comics are going to be deader than fucking disco.
 
Kirkmann just reaaaally wants to make his kryptonian knock offs borderline unstoppable when they really shouldnt be in a world that isnt limited by contrivences
That and the talk about Spawn reminds me of that image of that rabbit nigga breaking his sword trying to hit Mark and how FUCKING CRINGE it was, and I don't even know anything about Usagi.
 
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You'd think this is a joke but it isn't. Apparently the most popular comic book streaming/piracy site, readcomiconline, has been taken down. In the top search results there was a reddit thread where people are acting like this is a second burning of the library of Alexandria.


Like you're on a piracy subreddit and you have no idea where else to look for comic books outside of your ad infested first result on google shithole site?
It was the only site where I found hidden gems like The Marquis Inferno, it had so many comics that you never heard of.
 
The only thing that Invincible had going for it is that unlike normal Comic Books, you didn't need to read a dozen concurrent comics to know wtf is happening*.
Saying that "The only thing invincible has going for it is that you don't need to read a dozen comics to get it" is like saying "The only reason you don't drop dead this instant is because the room you're in has oxygen."

This is literally the reason comics are dying and manga is taking over. Its not that the writing is astronomically superior (that said the abyssal writing in comics doesn't help) its that comics are an impenetrable brick wall.

Not only is it slop, its inaccessible slop. You can't approach it and even if you could, you have no reason to.
 
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