Andrew Torba / Gab (Gab.com / Gab.ai) / Dissenter (dissenter.com) - An incompetent captain sinking millions of other people's dollars.

[AnOminous]

You're conspicuously ignoring the fact that just as not one of the founding fathers of your country would have considered 'assault weapon' bans defensible under the Constitution, they also wouldn't have been so braindead as to pretend that pornography is speech.

They would only have been concerned about it if the federal government did it, as much of the concern was that the federal government would take away the power of the states. States could and did have many regulations on who could own arms and what kind of arms they could own.

Among their concerns was that the federal government would do what the British had done and try to disarm Americans with means like the gunpowder embargo the British had imposed shortly before the Revolution, as well as attempts to seize state armories (guess how well those went).

Fairly shortly, most states also adopted their own rights to bear arms, but those were often limited, for instance, to white males, or attempts to ban concealed firearms, or even banning Catholics from owning arms.

Similarly, the First Amendment wouldn't have been seen as protecting obscenity (or anything else) from the states prohibiting it, because the Bill of Rights, in general, were not seen as applying to or limiting the states in what they could do. So the First Amendment may not have protected obscenity, but it was irrelevant as the federal government would have had no legitimate power to regulate it in any event. It wasn't until the priggish, sex obsessed Anthony Comstock as Postmaster General and the Comstock Act he was put in place to enforce that the federal government had any substantial role in such matters, even then limited to the use of the Postal Service.

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

They would only have been concerned about it if the federal government did it, as much of the concern was that the federal government would take away the power of the states. States could and did have many regulations on who could own arms and what kind of arms they could own.

Among their concerns was that the federal government would do what the British had done and try to disarm Americans with means like the gunpowder embargo the British had imposed shortly before the Revolution, as well as attempts to seize state armories (guess how well those went).

Fairly shortly, most states also adopted their own rights to bear arms, but those were often limited, for instance, to white males, or attempts to ban concealed firearms, or even banning Catholics from owning arms.

Similarly, the First Amendment wouldn't have been seen as protecting obscenity (or anything else) from the states prohibiting it, because the Bill of Rights, in general, were not seen as applying to or limiting the states in what they could do. So the First Amendment may not have protected obscenity, but it was irrelevant as the federal government would have had no legitimate power to regulate it in any event. It wasn't until the priggish, sex obsessed Anthony Comstock as Postmaster General and the Comstock Act he was put in place to enforce that the federal government had any substantial role in such matters, even then limited to the use of the Postal Service.

Yes, but as an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about, you're just clearly wrong because my feelings on pornography say so.

 

[Richard Stabone]

Except he wasn't. Not an excuse for pretending that porn is free speech.

Just about every modern historian believes he was. The kids were the only slaves freed, her room was adjacent to his, and it was an open secret that he never denied. I'll take all the evidence over some hack clickbait pundit.

Sorry your moral authority here is by today's standards, a child rapist.

Ben Franklin was engaging in orgies and opened a library in Philadelphia filled with porn. Hamilton was cucking some guy and wrote about it in intimate detail for the public. Morris wrote about publicly fucking in the Louvre.

These were grown men who drank and fucked. Maybe they wouldn't brag publicly about it, but they'd all be jacking off to lesbian porn on PornHub.

 

[AnOminous]

Ben Franklin was engaging in orgies and opened a library in Philadelphia filled with porn.

His favorites were otherwise respectable older women with big tits because they had as much to lose as you did so could be trusted to show discretion. And he liked big tits.

 

[Cantercoin]

So to sum up: everyone likes tiddies except puritans

 

[ProgKing of the North]

The important lesson here is that Ben Franklin was Chadlier than any of us can ever hope to be

 

[Doctor Placebo]

I have a feeling that this is less a morality issue for torba and he just REALLY wants that ad revenue
He's trying to masquerade this shit as a "fuck coomers" thing but its really about trying to get consertive INC to invest in gab.

I'm not sure how he expects that to work when Gab is full of people so racist and antisemitic that they make the groypers Conservative Inc is currently in an ideological battle with look like Mitt Romney by comparison, who absolutely hate Conservative Inc with the flaming passion of a thousand burning suns.

Once the hentai enthusiasts are chased off the site, they're going to be the only ones left. Well, them and Bolsonaro supporters. Torba really should say fuck it, go completely Portuguese, and turn it into an entirely Brazil focused social media site at this point. Except he'd basically be cutting himself out of most site administration and would have to surrender control to Portuguese speaking mods, and I think he's too paranoid and controlling (irony) for that.

I believe Ron Paul proposed that as a solution for taking down bin Laden after the 9/11 attacks. He'd have been killed shortly after if that had been the case, and US troops wouldn't be in Afghanistan protecting anti-Islamic bacha bazi practices and guarding opium fields for the Sackler crime family.

Ron Paul proposed something that was never actually attempted so it didn't work. That sure proves something or other.

Except he wasn't. Not an excuse for pretending that porn is free speech.

Finally a non-retarded take from you. The Sally Hemings thing is the historical equivalent tabloid magazine speculation, but it's taken as the historical truth because it's a juicy story and because it's politically useful to several different groups of people, the most powerful being the American left. But yes, the truth about the evidence for or against it is covered pretty well in that article.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

So to sum up: everyone likes tiddies except puritans

No, they like tiddies just as much, they’re just ashamed of it and pretend not to so they want everyone else to also pretend not to to make it easier for them

 

[Richard Stabone]

Finally a non-exceptional take from you. The Sally Hemings thing is the historical equivalent tabloid magazine speculation, but it's taken as the historical truth because it's a juicy story and because it's politically useful to several different groups of people, the most powerful being the American left. But yes, the truth about the evidence for or against it is covered pretty well in that article.

There is DNA proof that those children were fathered by a Jefferson male. You can argue that it was some other male in the family sneaking over to impregnate her. Or assume it was the Jefferson male living adjacent to her room, who gave her and her children special treatment, had names that were important to him, and was with her at the time of each conception.

I don't know how this is politically useful to anyone other than people trying to sell books or get clicks. Dude enslaved like 600 people, don't think it's far fetched to think he took a couple as concubines like most slaveholders did when their wives died.

 

[Doctor Placebo]

Jefferson was raping his 14-year old slave at the founding of our country. Why should I care what he would have thought about the Bang Bus?

There is DNA proof that those children were fathered by a Jefferson male. You can argue that it was some other male in the family sneaking over to impregnate her. Or assume it was the Jefferson male living adjacent to her room, who gave her and her children special treatment, had names that were important to him, and was with her at the time of each conception.

I don't know how this is politically useful to anyone other than people trying to sell books or get clicks.

Nigga, you just used the Sally Hemings story as a way to say Jefferson's opinion and his entire political legacy is invalid, and then you say it isn't politically useful to anyone?

And if you doing it yourself isn't enough, here's black American historian Nathan Higgins, saying in interview with PBS that the Sally Hemings story is, "Symbolically, it's tremendously important for people ... as a way of inclusion. ...the Sally Hemings story was a way of establishing black people's birthright to America." One of the founding fathers of America having an affair with his black slave and fathering children by her is immensely political useful to everyone from hoteps to communists to diversity enthusiasts, and apparently to coomers now. You are right that it also sells well, so there's a profit motive for people to say it's true to.

Anyway, you obviously didn't read the article so I doubt you'll be interested in the correction statement the main writer of the 1998 DNA study issued, or other scholarly studies on the subject.

And now our posts probably gonna get moved.

 

[CheezzyMach]

Lately there's been an anti-porn push among the younger, right leaning internet crowd. Part of this is a reaction to the addiction to sex and fetishes many on social media seem to have, but it also is fueled by theories about pornography corrupting minds (with some evidence). Andrew Torba of course is good at latching onto trends and opportunities in that crowd even if he can't implement them whatsoever, just look at the idea behind Dissenter or announcing services after ban waves.

The problem is, being anti-porn also contradicts being a free speech absolutist. Tumblr crashed and burned because of the porn ban, and when Twitter does (there's already fears of this) it's going to lose users as well. Torba doesn't want a Twitter alternative (but pro free speech) as much as he wants a right-wing hugbox, and this stunt is hard proof of it.

You'd think these guys would learn people love T&A but they keep pushing this.

 

[Rotollo]

You'd think these guys would learn people love T&A but they keep pushing this.

I find it strange they think even making it illegal would actually do anything, this is the same internet that pirates shit all the time and makes unreal engine 4 shit with copyrighted characters and 9/10 nothing gets done.
tech always outpaces the law and what they would want in terms of "getting it away from children" could be easily achievable by having parents actually watch their kids for once instead of putting on youtube kids while they watch 20 spiderman and elsa videos.

 

[Adam The Ticket Seller]

He's currently seething on Twitter https://twitter.com/getongab

 

[A Logging Company]

Can someone tell the Boomer that #NoNutNovember is over and he can cool it with the anti-porn "Coomer" stuff now? Congratulations, you removed sinful pornography from wholesome site that has people celebrating Nazi death camps, you can now relax in eroticless joy.

Here he responds to an obvious joke about anime tiddies seriously

And he goes apeshit at Joey Salads of all people.

If I was an investor, I'd be pulling out like its prom night looking at this.

 

[AnOminous]

Here he responds to an obvious joke about anime tiddies seriously

This guy's stupidity is limitless. He already has a failure of a site with a sliver of a niche audience and now he's pissing off some large chunk of the few people willing to participate in his shithole platform at all, over what amounts to SJW shit. What a marketing genius.

 

[roxitp0w3rwuzdabest420]

Guys im not watching porn no more. A alt-right neckbeard who wishes he looked like pewdiepie convinced me so.

What will happen first gab dies off or they end up with more mass shooters then 8chan?

 

[sophnar0747]

Commence operation '50 Shades of Gab'?

Sophia Narwitz on Twitter

“Hey, @getongab. Question for ya. Since porn isn't speech, as you've so 'eloquently' put it as of late. What is your stance on written erotica? If I was to go on your platform and write some hot and heavy gay erotica that is kinky as shit, would that be allowed? Cuz THAT is speech”

twitter.com

 

[roxitp0w3rwuzdabest420]

The idea of being addicted to porn is mind boggling to me. What are you 13 and just discovered jerking off? And it's not a new thing, there are cave painting of people fucking. Hell the I have old pulp books that my great grandfather owned in the 30s. One of them is about a 14 year old boy getting his first job and fucking all the women in the newspaper office. Porn addicts and sex addicts are already degenerates and pussies if you ask me. Call me up when you kick opiates or alcohol cold turkey you weaklings.

 

[sophnar0747]

So Torba says written erotica is considered porn, therefore it's banned on the platform, and now I want someone with an account to post quotes from one of these books. It'd be amazing if they got banned considering the historical significance of these titles when it comes to freedom of expression in American literature. He'd undermine his entire platform, more than he already is, anyways.

 

[meinhausinneuberlin]