Anti-Vax Movement

[Piga Dgrifm]

I found an interesting person on Instagram, "ComingUpFern". She also has a TikTok. She's anti-vaccine, anti-crib, anti-doctor, anti-diapers, anti-hospital, etc.

She, of course, believes vaccines will literally kill her child:

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Yet she thinks it's "heroic" to willingly put yourself and your child at greater risk of death by giving birth at home. (Her commenters are also batshit, naturally.)

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She hates vaccines so much she has to censor the word:

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She, naturally, thinks she knows better than doctors:

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She is against having babies sleep in cribs and equates them with prison and slavery. She suggests you have them sleep on the floor instead. She also seems to be against diapers since the baby will sit in its own waste for a bit. No word on where her infant shits, I guess it just goes on the floor. (I apologize for the censoring in this one, I found it on Reddit.)

The video: https://www.tiktok.com/@comingupfer...5?refer=embed&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v2

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Weirdly, there are images of a crib on her Insta, so I guess it's just for photos and she doesn't actually put the baby to sleep in it?

I think she's worth keeping an eye on.

 

[Trilby]

I found an interesting person on Instagram, "ComingUpFern". She also has a TikTok. She's anti-vaccine, anti-crib, anti-doctor, anti-diapers, anti-hospital, etc.

She, of course, believes vaccines will literally kill her child:

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Yet she thinks it's "heroic" to willingly put yourself and your child at greater risk of death by giving birth at home. (Her commenters are also batshit, naturally.)

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She hates vaccines so much she has to censor the word:

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She, naturally, thinks she knows better than doctors:

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She is against having babies sleep in cribs and equates them with prison and slavery. She suggests you have them sleep on the floor instead. She also seems to be against diapers since the baby will sit in its own waste for a bit. No word on where her infant shits, I guess it just goes on the floor. (I apologize for the censoring in this one, I found it on Reddit.)

The video: https://www.tiktok.com/@comingupfer...5?refer=embed&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v2

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Weirdly, there are images of a crib on her Insta, so I guess it's just for photos and she doesn't actually put the baby to sleep in it?

I think she's worth keeping an eye on.

Certainly as nutjobby as they come.

 

[Lunete]

Polysorbate 80 is also used in a lot of food products (most commonly found in ice cream) because it keeps the ingredients from separating.

 

[Trilby]

Found out my older brother came down with Covid but he still hasn't gotten his vaccine, being concern at the BS being spouted in the news he sees. I feel sorry for him.

 

[Caitty Fanny Pack]

It never ceases to amaze me the lengths these loons will go through to avoid a simple needle in the arm.

 

[LeChampion1992]

I'm not Anti vax I just don't think covid warrants a mandatory vaccine, lockdowns, or any of the measures pushed. I think the vaccine pushed was "definitely not in any way shape or form at all pushed on the public to make companies like phizer or Bayer/Monsanto or Astrazenaca hundreds billions of dollars." "Dr Faucci is 100% correct and we still need to wear a mask and stop the spread guys".

But in all seriousness childhood vaccine's are a good thing. But Forcing the adult masses to take a glorified flu vaccine or else they lose their freedom's is what makes me concerned. Especially when there are tens of billions if not hundreds of billions in federal taxpayer money at stake. I mean I am "100 % sure that the covid restrictions are for my safety and the people in charge are just great and wonderful benevolent people who need to be praised and refusal to get the jab = you want grandma dead".

 

[VanKrause]

My last post in this thread really aged badly.
Anyway,
vitamin supplements/natural cures are better than vaccines 99% of the time. Especially in the case of the so called coof vaccines that aren't vaccines at all. Check the VAERS database if you want to see how fatal the clot shot is.

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[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

My last post in this thread really aged badly.
Anyway,
vitamin supplements/natural cures are better than vaccines 99% of the time. Especially in the case of the so called coof vaccines that aren't vaccines at all. Check the VAERS database if you want to see how fatal the clot shot is.

Welcome

openvaers.com

VAERs isn't meant to be used that way. There's entries of VAERs that mention that the guy's penis size increased and that the vaccine had a side effect of a car accident. I guess that means you should take the "clot shot" (as you autisticly put it), although since you use VAERs in that way it already shows you're a retard

 

[jje100010001]

I'm not Anti vax I just don't think covid warrants a mandatory vaccine, lockdowns, or any of the measures pushed. I think the vaccine pushed was "definitely not in any way shape or form at all pushed on the public to make companies like phizer or Bayer/Monsanto or Astrazenaca hundreds billions of dollars." "Dr Faucci is 100% correct and we still need to wear a mask and stop the spread guys".

But in all seriousness childhood vaccine's are a good thing. But Forcing the adult masses to take a glorified flu vaccine or else they lose their freedom's is what makes me concerned. Especially when there are tens of billions if not hundreds of billions in federal taxpayer money at stake. I mean I am "100 % sure that the covid restrictions are for my safety and the people in charge are just great and wonderful benevolent people who need to be praised and refusal to get the jab = you want grandma dead".

My last post in this thread really aged badly.
Anyway,
vitamin supplements/natural cures are better than vaccines 99% of the time. Especially in the case of the so called coof vaccines that aren't vaccines at all. Check the VAERS database if you want to see how fatal the clot shot is.

Welcome

openvaers.com

In my opinion, the term 'anti-vax' has been appropriated by institutions to conflate the previously existing anti-vax movement with real and legitimate hesitancy about the COVID jabs.

Likewise, the very definition of 'vaccine' has been changed, in order to allow these therapeutic treatments to be considered 'vaccines'- and as such, 'vaccine', 'anti-vax', etc. are all corpse words, killed by the powers that be.

 

[vanilla_pepsi_head]

In my opinion, the term 'anti-vax' has been appropriated by institutions to conflate the previously existing anti-vax movement with real and legitimate hesitancy about the COVID jabs.

Likewise, the very definition of 'vaccine' has been changed, in order to allow these therapeutic treatments to be considered 'vaccines'- and as such, 'vaccine', 'anti-vax', etc. are all corpse words, killed by the powers that be.

Yeah and that is 100% intentional. Crude and transparent method of manipulating public opinion, but people are tards so it worked on a lot of them. Before 2020, as much as people liked to dunk on antivaxxers and either laugh or seethe, nobody actually unironically supported the idea of having a government-appointed Contact Tracing Quarantine Officer hold them down and stab them, teabag them until they sing the praises of whichever pharmaceutical company allowed them the privilege, then shove them in an internment camp if they voice any objection. Or they knew better than to say so if they did, because whether the anti-vaxxers' reasons were fucking stupid or not, the right to refuse unwanted medical treatment wasn't questioned, and while mandates existed in certain contexts, they didn't preclude non-vaccinated from participating in public life or making a living and objections based on moral/religious/health concerns were typically respected. The sheer number of people who went full Stalin on this after what amounted to a couple somewhat worse than usual flu seasons and an incredibly sloppy media spin job is clown world on a level that makes the schizophrenics insisting Shingrix is actually liquid 5G or whatever the fuck seem downright quaint and reasonable.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

Yeah and that is 100% intentional. Crude and transparent method of manipulating public opinion, but people are tards so it worked on a lot of them. Before 2020, as much as people liked to dunk on antivaxxers and either laugh or seethe, nobody actually unironically supported the idea of having a government-appointed Contact Tracing Quarantine Officer hold them down and stab them, teabag them until they sing the praises of whichever pharmaceutical company allowed them the privilege, then shove them in an internment camp if they voice any objection. Or they knew better than to say so if they did, because whether the anti-vaxxers' reasons were fucking stupid or not, the right to refuse unwanted medical treatment wasn't questioned, and while mandates existed in certain contexts, they didn't preclude non-vaccinated from participating in public life or making a living and objections based on moral/religious/health concerns were typically respected. The sheer number of people who went full Stalin on this after what amounted to a couple somewhat worse than usual flu seasons and an incredibly sloppy media spin job is clown world on a level that makes the schizophrenics insisting Shingrix is actually liquid 5G or whatever the fuck seem downright quaint and reasonable.

Has anyone else noticed that they're only shrieking about the need for boosters for Pfizer and Janssen and Moderna covid jabs?

And how it was always AstraZeneca where the media screeched about muh blood clots (which you have more chance of getting from the contraceptive pill) and how it was allegedly "Quasi Ineffective" according to Emmanuel Macron, President of France?

Now why do we think this is?

I'll give you a clue. AstraZeneca promised to supply its Covid vaccine at cost. The fact that it is also the only one where they weren't screeching about fading immunity kind of makes you think how much of all this is Pfizer and Janssen's marketrons taking advantage of the fear porn to gouge some more cashola. Wouldn't be the first time. The pharmaceutical industry has done many dodgy things in the past. (Please note this does not mean magic beans cure cancer btw.)

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

I'm not Anti vax I just don't think covid warrants a mandatory vaccine, lockdowns, or any of the measures pushed. I think the vaccine pushed was "definitely not in any way shape or form at all pushed on the public to make companies like phizer or Bayer/Monsanto or Astrazenaca hundreds billions of dollars." "Dr Faucci is 100% correct and we still need to wear a mask and stop the spread guys".

But in all seriousness childhood vaccine's are a good thing. But Forcing the adult masses to take a glorified flu vaccine or else they lose their freedom's is what makes me concerned. Especially when there are tens of billions if not hundreds of billions in federal taxpayer money at stake. I mean I am "100 % sure that the covid restrictions are for my safety and the people in charge are just great and wonderful benevolent people who need to be praised and refusal to get the jab = you want grandma dead".

This vaccine quite literally gave a meaning to the anti-vaxx movement. It would have faded into nothingness like the flat-earthers did if it wasn't for the COVID bullshit and that experimental vaccine.

Hell, this would've helped if nobody had an allergic reaction after being administered this or atleast they should be under strict scrutiny to prevent complications and potentially fatality.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I used to think the anti-vax movement was fucking stupid but after 2020 and especially this year, I think that they kinda had a point. I mean yes, the MMR vaccine is an actual vaccine, is pretty much entirely safe, doesn't cause autism, and you'd have to be stupid not to take it, but I don't think it should be required for kids to go to school. Same thing with mandatory flu shots for certain hospital/nursing home workers, and flu shots are a lot less effective (but still more effective and safe than the mRNA "vaccines").

A lot of the pro-vaccine movement ignores the shady shit that goes on regarding even the effective vaccines, let alone the social consequences of vaccination. AIDS spread all over Africa in the 80s because of various vaccination campaigns that would reuse needles (because Africa was too fucking poor to ensure their doctors always had clean needles). And lest we forget how Osama bin Laden was found, the glowies used a fake polio vaccination campaign to find him which ironically meant the real polio vaccination campaign will now never succeed because the goatfuckers keep killing the doctors under suspicion of being glowies.

Right now, I think it's morally criminal to force anyone to take a vaccine for any reason. You don't have an inherent right to be healthy. If you're vaccinated, it shouldn't matter if someone else isn't. If you can't get a vaccine because your health is fucked up, then sucks to be you, wear a mask or stay in your bubble. Forcing people to vaccinate themselves and their children because of people like that is like mandating random people help wheelchair-bound people up the stairs.

 

[Rapechu]

At this point, I don't trust the government to make a single good decision for anyone, let alone decide what should go into my body. I'll just drink my fluorine water and breathe my chemtrails in peace, thanks.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

but I don't think it should be required for kids to go to school.

It should actually, unless you want Measles outbreaks that end up killing children. This is about the covid vaccine not MMR.

AIDS spread all over Africa in the 80s because of various vaccination campaigns that would reuse needles (because Africa was too fucking poor to ensure their doctors always had clean needles).

You answered your own question in the parentheses as to why the vaccine thingy in Africa was a failure.


The COVID vaccine on its own merits was a rushed fuck-up, but your arguments are exactly in line with the usual anti-vaxxer bullshit you'd find on Twatter.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

It should actually, unless you want Measles outbreaks that end up killing children. This is about the covid vaccine not MMR.

Personally I don't care. If you bring unvaccinated children out in public, you deserve what you get. If you're a pregnant woman who goes out in public and don't have an MMR vaccine, you deserve what you get. If you don't segregate your sick kid from your healthy infant, you deserve what you get. People who oppose vaccines deserve what they get.

A tiny fraction of deaths from measles don't justify the government telling you what you can do with yourself or your kid. For all we know, mandatory vaccination is partially responsible for immune system decline that instead leads to shit like insane peanut allergies and the reason I can't get a tasty bag of peanuts on an airplane anymore or kids getting suspended for bringing a PB&J in their lunch box. You can't cure death and infant mortality, no matter how hard you try. It's akin to 19th/early 20th century foolishness at trying to control nature that brought us massive wildfires and unprecedented flooding via levee breaks.

You answered your own question in the parentheses as to why the vaccine thingy in Africa was a failure.

If it can lead to negative consequences, then odds are it probably will at some point.

The COVID vaccine on its own merits was a rushed fuck-up, but your arguments are exactly in line with the usual anti-vaxxer bullshit you'd find on Twatter.

No, because I'm a little more smarter and more knowledgeable on how things works. Tell me one reason the government should ever mandate a vaccine instead of letting evolution take over? If it's a good vaccine, then it's a good vaccine and people will take it and have their kids take it. If it isn't, then no one will. But thanks to these mandatory vaccination laws, the government could license a "vaccine" against anything and mandate you take it, and it be totally legal. Sure, that's a slippery slope argument, but I think anyone with a brain can see the slippery slope society's jumped off of in these past two years.