Science AP: Meme falsely claims dinosaurs were only invented to prove evolution is real. There is no ‘dinohoax’ - Humans have been discovering dinosaur fossils for thousands of years, despite claims otherwise on social media.

Meme falsely claims dinosaurs were only invented to prove evolution is real. There is no ‘dinohoax’
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By Melissa Goldin
2023-12-28 19:45:40.14GMT

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A model of a dinosaur is seen during an auction of auction house Koller, for the skeleton of a Tyrannosaurus rex named Trinity, in Zurich, Switzerland on Tuesday, April 18, 2023. Humans have been discovering dinosaur fossils for thousands of years, despite claims otherwise on social media. (Michael Buholzer/Keystone via AP)

CLAIM: The word “dinosaur” was coined before the first dinosaur fossils were discovered, which proves that the prehistoric reptiles never existed.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Humans have been finding dinosaur fossils for thousands of years, although experts widely credit an English surgeon and his wife for recognizing their significance after the couple’s 1822 discovery of dinosaur teeth in a forest south of London. An English anatomist and paleontologist coined the word “dinosauria,” the scientific name for dinosaurs meaning “terrible lizard,” in 1842.

THE FACTS: Millions of years after the dinosaurs’ extinction, social media users have dug up an old meme to deny the ancient beasts ever actually roamed the Earth.

“Sir Richard Owen, who created the term dinosaur, wanted to prove evolution to be true,” reads an image shared on Instagram. “He knew that many in the scientific community embraced the same goal. He was broke, and desperate to succeed. After his invention of the ‘dinosaur’ in 1842, amazingly, the first dinosaur discovery happened in 1858.”

In the top-left corner of the image, the word “dinohoax” appears below a picture of a Tyrannosaurus rex.

It’s unclear where the meme originated, but a Google search for “dinohoax” shows it has been circulating online since at least 2019.

Owen, an English anatomist and paleontologist, introduced the term dinosauria in 1842 to describe three types of extinct reptiles that had been formally named in the first decades of the 1800s.

But experts say fossilized dinosaur remains have been uncovered throughout human history, even though they weren’t broadly recognized for what they are until the 19th century.

“People have been interested in not just fossils, but dinosaur fossils, certainly for thousands of years,” Bruce Lieberman, director of the University of Kansas’ Paleontological Institute, told The Associated Press.

He explained that there is archaeological and other types of evidence pointing to an awareness among early civilizations of the creatures that would come to be known as dinosaurs. For example, a Native American pictogram of a giant bird dated to about 500 A.D. was found next to a site where dinosaur footprints were also discovered.

Gideon Mantell, an English surgeon, and his wife Mary Ann Mantell are widely regarded by experts as the first to view dinosaur fossils through a modern scientific lens. The couple, both amateur paleontologists, noted the significance of fossils as belonging to a different type of reptile following their discovery of dinosaur teeth in Tilgate Forest, approximately 27 miles (44 kilometers) south of London, in 1822.

After noticing similarities between the fossilized teeth and those of living iguanas, Gideon Mantell published a paper with his findings in 1825, naming the creature to whom the latter belonged iguanadon. Years later, Owen would use the word dinosauria to describe the iguanadon and two other creatures named around the same time — the megalosaurus and the hylaeosaurus.

“These three examples represent the first to be formally identified, described, and named scientifically as extinct animals,” Matt Friedman, director and associate curator at the University of Michigan’s Museum of Paleontology, told the AP in an email. “Owen was suitably impressed by the differences between these three ancient creatures and ‘ordinary’ reptiles that he decided they merited their own group, the dinosauria.”

Friedman added that “although a variety of evolutionary ideas were in circulation at the time,” Owen came up with the word dinosauria nearly 30 years prior to the publication of Charles Darwin’s “On the Origin of Species,” regarded as the cornerstone of evolutionary biology.

Additionally, Owen was not “desperate to succeed,” contrary to the claim spreading online.

“Owen was one of the most prominent British biologists of the mid-1800s, not some unknown scientist laboring in obscurity and looking for a big break,” Friedman wrote.
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Here's the meme:
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Every single place a white European person invented or discovered something, new history now says ackshully some African tribesmen or the Chinese or Indians (dot or feather) did it. Two discoveries very close to one another from Euros, but of course they were beaten to the punch and we know that for sure because someone drew a picture of a bird near a place where people later found bones.

I had this happen when looking into the history of a common household good as well. There was a whole history of its production in England in the 1800s and a reference to it in English documents in 1677, but "ackshully China did it 70 years earlier, only it was a totally different material with totally different properties and wasn't used in the same way at all and no one in England ever would have seen it to copy it." Just obvious stealing credit.

I used to laugh when Chekov would call everything Russian on Star Trek, but this is actual cultural appropriation. There will be a lot of people who are being raised to believe that the only achievements of any Europeans involve stealing from other cultures. Americans are now conditioned to believe anything they hear about every invention actually being invented by the slave of the inventor, or his wife, or some tribe he never met 10000 miles away.
 
This article is emblematic of what's wrong with modern journalism. A huge amount of word salad and overexplanation when they could just say "Dinosaurs have been a known thing for hundreds of years, you fucking retard" and left it at that. Add in the mandatory sprinkle of white hatred that @Diana Moon Glampers touched on, and that's media reporting in Current Year™️
 
These people are so desperate for a W they will lower themselves into "debunking" a literal satire conspiracy to pretend they are thinking human beings.
With me, I live in Utah. You ever hear of Lake Bonneville? The salt lake and mountains around it are what's left and there are a SHIT TON of Dino bones from dinosaurs that used it as a watering hole. The proof is right there. These dumbasss journos are going to turn a meme into a actual conspiracy
 
How do we know they weren't put in the ground right before they were dug up like that bone necklace in King of the Hill?
 
It makes perfect sense. They can't make fun of conspiracy theories anymore because they are hitting too close to home. These aren't big foot or grey aliens, they are naming names and using actual government sources. So they make up a strawman.

Same thing happened with 9/11 truth movement and Sandy Hook, except in those cases they took real conspiracies and make strawman versions of them. It's why the "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" meme happened, which in hindsight was a sign of how incompetent these people are (The original point of the statement was truthers pointing to footage that showed what looked like liquid metal flowing from the towers and wreckage that didn't make sense, which the debunkers misunderstood to mean that conspiracy theorists were saying the jet fuel needed to melt the steel of the towers to bring them down) and we have more recently seen it with the Covid Vaccine where every time they brought up resistance to taking it the talking point was "5g Bill Gates Chip" which was a massive strawman no one but a few hundred retards worldwide believed.

It's basically a desperate attempt to shame people into compliance.
 
I'm pretty sure that's how the flat earth shit got started.
They bit on the "OK sign is actually WP for White Power" meme so hard and seriously that people got fired as racist for it........ I wouldn't doubt that the media, in attempting to debunk a simple wacky conspiracy meme could successfully cause people to get murdered over it who would've been perfectly safe if they did nothing.

We're in an age of anti-media, where reporting on things actively makes them WORSE due to the toxic mix of incredible real world ignorance and feverish blind political loyalty that infests all journalists these days.
 
With me, I live in Utah. You ever hear of Lake Bonneville? The salt lake and mountains around it are what's left and there are a SHIT TON of Dino bones from dinosaurs that used it as a watering hole. The proof is right there. These dumbasss journos are going to turn a meme into a actual conspiracy
Now I want to believe that Joseph Smith rode a T-Rex out to Utah.
 
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