Apple Thread - The most overrated technology brand?

[Samuel Fuller]

Like typey type on the iPad and have it control a device its plugged into? Or reverse?

If they’re in the same wifi, you can use an iPad as a touch tablet for your Mac as long as they are on the same iCloud account, or use one as a secondary display.

 

[Michelle Zatlyn]

If they’re in the same wifi, you can use an iPad as a touch tablet for your Mac as long as they are on the same iCloud account, or use one as a secondary display.

oh okay, so whats the issue the other poster was saying? A problem ive noticed is iOS not having enough thin client abilities for non-iOS/MacOS, devices. Like, if i wanted my iPhone/iPad to be an external bt or usb keyboard/mouse for another device. They also dont support charging other devices with them. Two things that break their mobile platforms use cases. I think it comes down to lack of compatibility with other devices that makes apple products suck.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

oh okay, so whats the issue the other poster was saying? A problem ive noticed is iOS not having enough thin client abilities for non-iOS/MacOS, devices. Like, if i wanted my iPhone/iPad to be an external bt or usb keyboard/mouse for another device. They also dont support charging other devices with them. Two things that break their mobile platforms use cases. I think it comes down to lack of compatibility with other devices that makes apple products suck.

Bullshit on the charging thing. I charge all kinds of stuff off my MacBook Pro.

As far as using the iPhone or iPad on other devices, there are apps that do it, I used to use an air mouse app on my iPhone 3G to control my media server PC.

Some things may not work instantly in other ecosystems, but that doesn’t mean there’s no way to do them.

 

[Least Concern]

MacRumors has been posting articles for the past year or so about how Apple is on the verge of introducing touch-screen MBPs and folding-screen iPhones and I have to wonder if there's actually a market for either gimmick. I know touch-screens have been a thing in the Windows world for a decade now but I've never actually seen anyone in a coffee shop or office actually smudging up their screens by using it (if anything the coffee shop people are always using wireless mice since Windows people seem to struggle with touchpads). Similarly a foldable phone seems like an unnecessarily expensive and fragile gimmick, and again, though I know foldable Android phones have been a thing for a while, I've never actually seen one outside a cell phone shop. (Though I can see the appeal for what would effectively be a tiny iPad with phone capability for people with unlimited budgets. A touchscreen Mac, though, seems completely pointless.)

Maybe these things will come out and be huge successes and expose me for being the out-of-touch boomer that I am. But I'll stick to buying non-touchable laptops and the tiniest model of iPhone on the market as long as I'm able to personally.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

MacRumors has been posting articles for the past year or so about how Apple is on the verge of introducing touch-screen MBPs and folding-screen iPhones and I have to wonder if there's actually a market for either gimmick. I know touch-screens have been a thing in the Windows world for a decade now but I've never actually seen anyone in a coffee shop or office actually smudging up their screens by using it (if anything the coffee shop people are always using wireless mice since Windows people seem to struggle with touchpads). Similarly a foldable phone seems like an unnecessarily expensive and fragile gimmick, and again, though I know foldable Android phones have been a thing for a while, I've never actually seen one outside a cell phone shop. (Though I can see the appeal for what would effectively be a tiny iPad with phone capability for people with unlimited budgets. A touchscreen Mac, though, seems completely pointless.)

Maybe these things will come out and be huge successes and expose me for being the out-of-touch boomer that I am. But I'll stick to buying non-touchable laptops and the tiniest model of iPhone on the market as long as I'm able to personally.

Having had a touchscreen ThinkPad issued to me in a past job, touchscreen laptops are useless. The ergonomics just don’t work.

Folding phones appeal to idiots who want the latest gimmick, but the durability, failure rates and production yields are horrendous. If Apple makes a folding iPhone, it’ll be a side model and not the main iPhone.

 

[Betonhaus]

MacRumors has been posting articles for the past year or so about how Apple is on the verge of introducing touch-screen MBPs and folding-screen iPhones and I have to wonder if there's actually a market for either gimmick. I know touch-screens have been a thing in the Windows world for a decade now but I've never actually seen anyone in a coffee shop or office actually smudging up their screens by using it (if anything the coffee shop people are always using wireless mice since Windows people seem to struggle with touchpads). Similarly a foldable phone seems like an unnecessarily expensive and fragile gimmick, and again, though I know foldable Android phones have been a thing for a while, I've never actually seen one outside a cell phone shop. (Though I can see the appeal for what would effectively be a tiny iPad with phone capability for people with unlimited budgets. A touchscreen Mac, though, seems completely pointless.)

Touch screen laptops are a gimmick, I have one and I literally only used the touch when I needed to do an e-signature.

I’d say the same about the folding phones that unfold into a tablet.

But flip style folding phones like the Samsung Flip and Motorola Razr are pretty nice. You get a proper phablet sized phone that folds in half so it fits into your pocket better and as long as you don’t work in a field where you get bits of sand or metal chips in your pocket even the two year old models are durable enough. I did like mine and I wanted to get a Huawei Mate X form factor phone

 

[Susanna]

touch-screen MBPs

Then the previous version becomes the last Macbook I ever buy. Touchscreens are useless and only exist to drain battery, and I prioritise battery life very highly in my laptops.

folding-screen iPhones

I wouldn't be the first customer, but I would be interested. If I can replace my iPhone and the iPad Mini in my purse with just the folding iPhone, I would. Yeah it probably wouldn't fit comfortably in my pockets, but I already usually use AirPods to make and receive calls, so whatever, pulling the phone out of the purse instead of a jacket pocket is no big deal, and having one less device to carry around is more than worth the tiny inconvenience.

 

[Least Concern]

Then the previous version becomes the last Macbook I ever buy. Touchscreens are useless and only exist to drain battery, and I prioritise battery life very highly in my laptops.

The rumors are that the touch-screen would only be on high-end "MacBook Ultras," so cheaper MBPs and all MBAs wouldn't have them. It seems to me touch-screens would be a feature that would appeal more to normies than pros with huge budgets, so maybe that's another clue that this won't actually happen…

 

[1999 prick]

Apple is on the verge of introducing touch-screen MBPs

It would be a weird product from Apple, they already have the ipad pro and magic keyboard combo making it pretty close to being a laptop with a touchscreen, especially with the current iPadOS.

Only people I know that would be interested in a laptop with a touchscreen are artsy people but Procreate isn’t available on MacOS, only iPadOS.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

It would be a weird product from Apple, they already have the ipad pro and magic keyboard combo making it pretty close to being a laptop with a touchscreen, especially with the current iPadOS.

Only people I know that would be interested in a laptop with a touchscreen are artsy people but Procreate isn’t available on MacOS, only iPadOS.

There are better options than Procreate on Mac.

 

[Patrick Bait-man]

the tiniest model of iPhone on the market as long as I'm able to personally.

5 years and I still haven't forgotten about you.

 

[Betonhaus]

There are better options than Procreate on Mac.

You don’t need a Mac to procreate

 

[Susanna]

You don’t need a Mac to procreate

But it sure helps.

 

[HairyBadger]

It would be a weird product from Apple, they already have the ipad pro and magic keyboard combo making it pretty close to being a laptop with a touchscreen, especially with the current iPadOS.

Only people I know that would be interested in a laptop with a touchscreen are artsy people but Procreate isn’t available on MacOS, only iPadOS.

Touchscreen laptops ( and desktops) are a solutions searching for a problem that does not exist.

I trialled a Lenovo Yoga for a couple of months, and while it was fun to begin with, I came to the conclusion I was carting around an inferior ipad that weighed 4 times as much.

 

[LegoTugboat]

M6 Mac mini is here, boys.

2 nm 12 core CPU (2 super/4 performance/6 efficiency) and 12 core GPU, and up to 170 GB/s memory bandwidth.

(Also the base price is now $899.)

Also M5 Max and M5 Ultra Mac Studio are out, also with price increases.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

M6 Mac mini is here, boys.

2 nm 12 core CPU (2 super/4 performance/6 efficiency) and 12 core GPU, and up to 170 GB/s memory bandwidth.

(Also the base price is now $899.)

Also M5 Max and M5 Ultra Mac Studio are out, also with price increases.

Damn, can’t wait to see the benchmarks.

 

[Least Concern]

(Also the base price is now $899.)

Considering the base model now has 16GB of RAM, that's somewhat understandable. The Neo is still out there for people who just want a Mac of some sort and really don't care at all about specs. Call it Crapplefag cope if you want but the price jump still could have been a lot worse IMO.

I priced out a M6, 32GB RAM, half-TB storage build to about $1500. That'd probably last me half a decade or more. Hmm.

 

[Almighty Space Duck]

I priced out a M6, 32GB RAM, half-TB storage build to about $1500. That'd probably last me half a decade or more. Hmm.

It is very tempting. I'll probably go base storage, 32GB RAM and 10Gb ethernet if I do go for one. I'm lucky in that I picked up a bunch of 2TB USB NVMEs before things went crazy so internal storage is a non issue for me.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

Considering the base model now has 16GB of RAM, that's somewhat understandable. The Neo is still out there for people who just want a Mac of some sort and really don't care at all about specs. Call it Crapplefag cope if you want but the price jump still could have been a lot worse IMO.

I priced out a M6, 32GB RAM, half-TB storage build to about $1500. That'd probably last me half a decade or more. Hmm.

One thing that has floored me about Apple Sillicon Macs is that they seem to have even better performance longevity than the Intel ones did. My M2 Pro MBP still kills everything I throw at it.

 

[Betonhaus]

Do you think Apple will ever make a G1 GPU that gets added to the higher end models as an option, or maybe even as an expansion card to a new Mac Pro? or just make the M series chip even bigger?