Are there Any Woke Properties that you Unironically Enjoy?

[starborn427614]

I don't think there's anything wrong with something being "left-leaning" or made by liberals. Most media is. I think the difference between the stuff I like and "woke" shit is that even if the creator has opinions/views, they usually let the story speak for itself and add some nuance or depth.

I've discussed this idea in Multimedia with other kiwis, but a lot of these modern shows have really obnoxious PR surrounding them (oftentimes not involving the show creator) that attempt to paint the thing in question as "THE MOST STUNNING AND BRAVE THING EVER" which of course rubs some people the wrong way. I don't think people who plainly dislike progressive elements in media would suddenly tune in, but it would definitely help if the "they vs them" shit wasn't there. The culture war has two sides and it's not just the right's fault that some shows fail to grab people or under perform.

 

[(((I am NOT a jew)))]

I've discussed this idea in Multimedia with other kiwis, but a lot of these modern shows have really obnoxious PR surrounding it (oftentimes not involving the show creator) that attempt to paint the thing in question as "THE MOST STUNNING AND BRAVE THING EVER" which of course rubs some people the wrong way. I don't think people who plainly dislike progressive elements in media would suddenly tune in, but it would definitely help if the "they vs them" shit wasn't there. The culture war has two sides and it's not just the right's fault that some shows fail to grab people or under perform.

Well in my experience, most people will throw aside most politics for decent, enjoyable media.
It's why people on here like Everything, Everywhere, All At Once. On it's surface does it have stuff that might put some people off? Sure. But that's not THE movie, and those elements work at telling the type of story it is.
Hell, it's why people who supposedly hate jews so much still like a lot of what Hollywood has made before the last ten years. At the end of the day nobody except the most exceptional individuals care so much about politics they can't enjoy a good story.
The problem is good fiction has to either be a) entertaining or b)interpretable i.e nuanced.
And those three things are a stake made of kryptonite for most of the people making them now. The point comes first, the point comes second and the point comes last. And if you're being entertained by the point, then obviously the graveness of the point wasn't made clear enough.

I think the biggest problem with modern fiction is the people making it could be anything else. What I mean by that is that these people could just as easily be politicians or used car salesmen (and they practically already are). The best films are made by people who have a love for film, that can't do really anything else. For most people in professions today, they worship the artform they're working in less and see it just as a means of delivering a message. Where as someone like Scorsese or Bergman might have had points they'd want to make, but their love of the craft came first, and also realized that art should be able to be interpreted like a painting.
Sorry for waxing poetic, but more than even politics, that's what I think is killing entertainment. The people making it don't have a true undying passion for their subject.

 

[Fraiser crane]

I don't watch the jew in the box

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

Transformers MTMTE. I didn't realize it was woke until the tranny bots started coming in in Transformers: Lost Light. Looking back on it, some of it is sketchy but I can still read it without cringing too hard, knowing what I know now. Fuck what they did to Arcee, though. There was no reason for that. It doesn't make any fucking sense to have sexes in robots that don't require sexes to reproduce.

 

[The Lawgiver]

Homestuck, although I liked it way before Hussie want full retard.

I don't exactly know how homestuck got the parasitic audience it did when it was filled with characters thatsaid shit like fag, gay (the insult version big nono!) and retard. Also canonically sue to the blog where Hussie used strider as a pen name the hard R N word is in there too. I got some theories on how this happened due to living through it as it happened, shit involves the clickbait storm about "longest/deepest webcomic evar!" around the tail end of act 5 going into act 6 and the death threats and shit hussie kept recieving everytime he wasn't bending over backwards apologizing for actually being funny after said point by people who solely read starting from late act 5 into act 6.

 

[(((I am NOT a jew)))]

I don't exactly know how homestuck got the parasitic audience it did when it was filled with characters thatsaid shit like fag, gay (the insult version big nono!) and retard. Also canonically sue to the blog where Hussie used strider as a pen name the hard R N word is in there too. I got some theories on how this happened due to living through it as it happened, shit involves the clickbait storm about "longest/deepest webcomic evar!" around the tail end of act 5 going into act 6 and the death threats and shit hussie kept recieving everytime he wasn't bending over backwards apologizing for actually being funny after said point by people who solely read starting from late act 5 into act 6.

One thing people forget is how different even tumblr-level lefties were pre 2016. People said fag and all sorts of edgy shit and a lot of lefties still laughed at it. The last 4 years have convinced people that no one has ever actually laughed at funny jokes and there was never a period when being funny was okay when in reality it's a very recent thing that happened mostly after midway into Trump's term.

 

[The Lawgiver]

One thing people forget is how different even tumblr-level lefties were pre 2016. People said fag and all sorts of edgy shit and a lot of lefties still laughed at it. The last 4 years have convinced people that no one has ever actually laughed at funny jokes and there was never a period when being funny was okay when in reality it's a very recent thing that happened mostly after midway into Trump's term.

the derangement hit homestuck before donald trump happened and it's why for a while the phrases "pink monkeys" and "white rapper" were censored at one point, as well as a joke where a character says "i feel so caucasian!" making a joke about the race headcanon wars that were happening. There was also an out of fucking nowhere trauma dump retroactively faming a dead guy as an abusive monster robot man instead of a stupid wacky dudebro coolguy because the guys that skipped to the trolls found out about the earlier parts due to the books coming out and saw the line in the commentary that was basically MOREOR LESS "if this was real life it'd be child abuse cause bro's 30 GOOD THING THIS IS FICTION HAHA OH GOD"

 

[Book Thief]

Freedom Planet 2 was just released last year. It's not as good as the original Freedom Planet, but it's still pretty decent in my opinion. It's got improved sprite art, refined gameplay mechanics, and they finally figured out how to make cutscenes that don't feel like they're draining your life away. That being said, the levels and bosses don't feel as tightly designed, and the music is a huge step backwards in my opinion.

So what exactly makes it "woke"? Well, Stephen DiDuro trooned out, and now goes by "Sabrina DiDuro." And as we all know, troons can't help but shove their politics into everything they get involved with, like a flamboyant King Midas that turns everything gay.

In this case, the new game's lore explains how a bunch of Earth Dragons came from outer space and colonized Planet Avalice, enslaving the native Water Dragon populace in the process. Eventually, the Water Dragons got fed up with their poor treatment, and rebelled against the Earth Dragons in an all-out war. However, the Earth Dragons ended up victorious, and now Water Dragons are basically non-existent. This is a pretty blatant parallel to how European settlers colonized the American continent, and it only gets more painfully blatant from there.

See, the new villain is a Water Dragon from eons ago, and is now planning to exact revenge against the current crop of Earth Dragons. The whole ordeal is presented as if the surviving descendants are just as guilty for what their ancestors did. There's a huge scene about half-way where the Magister is revealed to be an Earth Dragon, and is confronted by the villains, and they make a big deal about how he must "pay" for his "crimes" that happened long ago. To top it off, it's all presented as if the villains actually have a valid point, and even Lilac gets into an argument with the Magister after they rescue him from that predicament.

So basically, the plot of the game could be summarized as the furry equivalent of White Guilt. But if you enjoyed the first game, and don't let that retardation bother you, then it's still a pretty decent game overall.

 

[RurkerHivemind]

Instead of complaining about Woke Media,wouldn't it be more productive to co-opt the fandom and consume it like how Alt-Righters suddenly made up a huge amount of Family Guy fans in spite of how clear a raging Lefty Seth McFarlane is?

 

[Dupree Home Edition]

I thought that The Boys was a fun watch even though it got so heavy handed near the end that it was hard to stomach. The Batman was a really cool movie as well, Zoe Kravitz's portrayal of catwoman was maybe the hottest I've ever seen and it carved a unique stylistic niche in the series. I'm excited for Street Fighter 6 too...we'll see how far Capcom takes this shit. Psychonauts 2 was a blast.

 

[Jason Wynn]

A little late on seeing it, but my sister recently got me into BoJack Horseman, and I’m really enjoying it so far. There’s a few things that have made me roll my eyes here and there, but it’s not this cesspool of woke bullshit a few people told me and put me off watching it for so long.

 

[The Evil Midnight Bomber]

I really like the Wire even though it has entirely too many gay sex scenes. There are also a bunch of scenes with black characters complaining about systemic racism even though Baltimore is run and inhabited mostly by black people. The story and dissection of modern American culture and its many illnesses and flaws is great though, you really start developing feelings for some of these violent hoodrats by the end of the show. I also really like season 2, the story about the stevedores trying to save their dying port and resorting to illegal means in order to stay afloat is very sad.

 

[vomitusdeux]

A little late on seeing it, but my sister recently got me into BoJack Horseman, and I’m really enjoying it so far. There’s a few things that have made me roll my eyes here and there, but it’s not this cesspool of woke bullshit a few people told me and put me off watching it for so long.

It's a decent show, with some really good episodes. They do slip a lot of woke in the longer it goes on though. It's not bad in the first 2 seasons, 3 was the last one I ended up watching. 3 wasn't bad with the woke and I heard it gets worse after that so I just stopped before it was ruined for me.

 

[soy_king]

A little late on seeing it, but my sister recently got me into BoJack Horseman, and I’m really enjoying it so far. There’s a few things that have made me roll my eyes here and there, but it’s not this cesspool of woke bullshit a few people told me and put me off watching it for so long.

wait until Season 3, then it starts getting egregiously woke.

@vomitusdeux do you not remember the entire episode denigrating strippers as victims of the patriarchal gaze, the subplot about Todd starting a cab service for women avoiding getting catcalled, and Dianne needing to deal with the social ostracism of getting an abortion... in LA?

 

[vomitusdeux]

wait until Season 3, then it starts getting egregiously woke.

@vomitusdeux do you not remember the entire episode denigrating strippers as victims of the patriarchal gaze, the subplot about Todd starting a cab service for women avoiding getting catcalled, and Dianne needing to deal with the social ostracism of getting an abortion... in LA?

To be fair I watched it when it came out and haven't watched since so yes I did actually forget about those things. Jesus christ I forgot completely about all of those things. I hate that I remember those episodes now thanks.

 

[TomServo]

I usually like Bob's Burgers...I don't know if it falls into the woke media catagory but I can dig it. I'm also an enormoous fan of the Borderlands games. The stories may be sketchy but the gameplay is my jam.

 

[vomitusdeux]

I usually like Bob's Burgers...I don't know if it falls into the woke media catagory but I can dig it.

I didn't watch very much of it, but it didn't seem THAT woke other than Linda thinking raccoons are gay, I don't remember anything woke in it but again I watched it as it came out and not seen it recently at all. Like 2015. But the fact that it's slated to keep going until 2025 apparently doesn't give me hope that it isn't absolutely disgustingly woke in current seasons

 

[TomServo]

I didn't watch very much of it, but it didn't seem THAT woke other than Linda thinking raccoons are gay, I don't remember anything woke in it but again I watched it as it came out and not seen it recently at all. Like 2015. But the fact that it's slated to keep going until 2025 apparently doesn't give me hope that it isn't absolutely disgustingly woke in current seasons

It's not as in your face with it as some other properties but it's there in thankfully small doses.

 

[johnny dollars]

A little late on seeing it, but my sister recently got me into BoJack Horseman, and I’m really enjoying it so far

I couldn't get past the second season. Regardless of wokeness, I hated every character, except the sleazy agent character because she was the only one who wasn't a depressed narcissistic asshole. I couldn't get past when BoJack tried to get sleep with the underage girl. The creator seems like a genuine asshole as well. I'm not a huge Allison Brie fan (though I liked her in Community), but I thought it was pretty slimy to go on a rant about her presence makes the show worse (because she's a Jewish woman playing a Vietnamese woman).

Is Community considered woke? I really like the first three seasons. The only thing Dan Harmon made that I like.

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

Borat: Subsequent Movie Film has been considered woke by many people. However Borat was written as a character usually as a stereotype of a dumb foreigner and that's what makes it funny. It makes fun of retarded politicians such as Justin Trudeau (Left Wing Dictator) and Donald Trump (Right Wing Buffoon). I see this movie more as a commentary on how stupid the masses are. Both Social Justice Warriors and Trump Supporters.