Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

Meanwhile "gigavaxxed Joe" has had pretty much everyone he's been in contact with catch it and has had trouble getting consistently negative results.
Trump is "Mr Warp Speed" though so he has probably been a good lil orange tard behind the scenes and taken the jab just since his ego is mixed up in it. Its still weird that people use Trump as some example of an antivaxxer, he has never been against the jab it was  his initiative, if the jab looks bad he looks bad.
His entire thing has rather been "if you don't want to get the jab don't get the jab" which is much more tolerable imo than "Get this shitty ineffective jab that doesn't even do what we advertised or we will ruin you financially"

There have been people who have tested positive for up to 60 days. Supposedly Biden's inconsistent results may have been caused by taking the Paxlovid antiviral too.

In regards to the perception of Trump an anti-vaxer: it is actually quite sad, since he did do something legitimately special with Warp Speed. But his mentally handicapped antivax base won't let him take the win. Whenever he mentions taking the shot at rallies he gets heckled:


If the vaccine was ready by the time he got sick, he probably would've had the same mild outcome Biden did. The point of the comparison with Biden was that being gigavaxxed does bestow a good level of protection from severe disease - just like every study posted in a reputable journal that doesn't look like GeoCities has described.

Note how the seething vaxxie forgot to mention that Trump got over it in three days, while ubervaxxed Joe is still struggling to consistently produce negative tests after a month of treatments. Joe'll test negative one day, then they'll test him again in two days and he'll be positive again. SaFe aND eFfeCTivE

Mild symptoms with a longer duration and some inconsistent test results later.

vs

It's only 3 days but the symptoms are severe enough to be sent to hospital and need supplemental oxygen.


... everyone who isn't retarded is going to opt for the former outcome.
 
There have been people who have tested positive for up to 60 days. Supposedly Biden's inconsistent results may have been caused by taking the Paxlovid antiviral too.

In regards to the perception of Trump an anti-vaxer: it is actually quite sad, since he did do something legitimately special with Warp Speed. But his mentally handicapped antivax base won't let him take the win. Whenever he mentions taking the shot at rallies he gets heckled:


If the vaccine was ready by the time he got sick, he probably would've had the same mild outcome Biden did. The point of the comparison with Biden was that being gigavaxxed does bestow a good level of protection from severe disease - just like every study posted in a reputable journal that doesn't look like GeoCities has described.



Mild symptoms with a longer duration and some inconsistent test results later.

vs

It's only 3 days but the symptoms are severe enough to be sent to hospital and need supplemental oxygen.


... everyone who isn't retarded is going to opt for the former outcome.
So Trump had three days of observation in a hospital and then got sent home, that was standard practice back in 2020. Biden is still testing positive and is still under observation as we speak, not to mention the fact that everyone including his wife are still testing positive right now. You're just making increasingly pathetic excuses for the vaccine's lack of effectiveness because "muh partisanship."

Trump shouldn't have been pushing this half-baked shit either, that's the point.
 
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There have been people who have tested positive for up to 60 days. Supposedly Biden's inconsistent results may have been caused by taking the Paxlovid antiviral too.

In regards to the perception of Trump an anti-vaxer: it is actually quite sad, since he did do something legitimately special with Warp Speed. But his mentally handicapped antivax base won't let him take the win. Whenever he mentions taking the shot at rallies he gets heckled:


If the vaccine was ready by the time he got sick, he probably would've had the same mild outcome Biden did. The point of the comparison with Biden was that being gigavaxxed does bestow a good level of protection from severe disease - just like every study posted in a reputable journal that doesn't look like GeoCities has described.



Mild symptoms with a longer duration and some inconsistent test results later.

vs

It's only 3 days but the symptoms are severe enough to be sent to hospital and need supplemental oxygen.


... everyone who isn't retarded is going to opt for the former outcome.
I don't know why you insist on using two old men's reaction to covid as the basis to your pro covid drug argument.
 
If the vaccine was ready by the time he got sick, he probably would've had the same mild outcome Biden did. The point of the comparison with Biden was that being gigavaxxed does bestow a good level of protection from severe disease - just like every study posted in a reputable journal that doesn't look like GeoCities has described.
Oh, you mean the same outcome that most people who aren't infested with comorbidities had just by doing nothing? Because that's what it boils down to. The vast majority of people who got covid got over it quickly and haven't suffered these horror movie symptoms they've been promised for 2 years. And many of the people who died or have had noteworthy horror cases have been deathfats, geriatrics or had a history of medical issues already.

It doesn't help that the idiots shilling the jab have moved the goalposts so far without the requisite knowledge to do so - as soon as it became clear that it did jack shit to stop transmission the argument was changed to "well it keeps you out of the hospital!" even though that argument is retarded for the above reason as well as that by that point covid was already changing in its mutations to become weaker. It's a simple principle in viral cases - viruses over time tend to mutate into either being highly lethal or highly transmissible. Covid has only become weaker since late 2020, so now even unjabbed deathfats and geriatrics have a chance since the virus itself is now predominantly found in weaker forms that don't attack the body as efficiently.

As for the argument about studies, lol you realize there are a lot of "reputable medical journals" out there which also assert that men can be pregnant and menstruate and that women dont have a firm biological definition. Hell, just a week or so ago multiple medical orgs such as Boston Children's Hospital and some pediatrics specialists were saying that "science" says kids know their preferred gender while in the womb - you sure you're not willing to consider that maybe, just maybe, the "science" field has fallen victim to clown world as much as anything else?
 
So Trump had three days of observation in a hospital and then got sent home, that was standard practice back in 2020. Biden is still testing positive and is still under observation as we speak, not to mention the fact that everyone including his wife are still testing positive right now.

Standard practice was and still is to isolate, not go to a hospital lmfao. Observation by a White House doctor is obviously not the same level of scrutinous observation you get when you go to a hospital.

Trump's physician, Conley, said Trump needed supplemental oxygen twice before needing to go to hospital. Conley also admitted he covered up the fact Trump experienced several severe drops of blood oxygen levels while in hospital, but didn't mention it "to reflect the upbeat attitude of Trump and his team".

"Three days of observation" my ass. It's obvious Trump was far sicker than he and his team let on.

So what do you Branch Covidans think now that Fauci has annouced his retirement in December? Last but not least not vaxxed and never will be. Three years, the entirety of the pandemic and I have not been sick once, SUCK IT!

81 year old retires from job, how profound.

And I think this Korean doctor may be describing you.

I don't know why you insist on using two old men's reaction to covid as the basis to your pro covid drug argument.

It was made fair game when people started using one old man's reaction to covid as the basis for their anti-covid drug arguments. If Biden is supposedly having a bad time with covid then Trump's illness must've been a catastrophe.
 
It was made fair game when people started using one old man's reaction to covid as the basis for their anti-covid drug arguments. If Biden is supposedly having a bad time with covid then Trump's illness must've been a catastrophe.
I think you misunderstood what was being implied when people brought up Biden's reaction. @Badungus Kabungus is known to gloat and sneer at those vehemently pro covid drug people who have media mentions of them catching the illness again and again despite espousing that the "vaccine" would prevent that. It's not an argument or making a case for anything. It's simply laughing at people's hypocrisy.
 
Standard practice was and still is to isolate, not go to a hospital lmfao. Observation by a White House doctor is obviously not the same level of scrutinous observation you get when you go to a hospital.

Trump's physician, Conley, said Trump needed supplemental oxygen twice before needing to go to hospital. Conley also admitted he covered up the fact Trump experienced several severe drops of blood oxygen levels while in hospital, but didn't mention it "to reflect the upbeat attitude of Trump and his team".

"Three days of observation" my ass. It's obvious Trump was far sicker than he and his team let on.



81 year old retires from job, how profound.

And I think this Korean doctor may be describing you.



It was made fair game when people started using one old man's reaction to covid as the basis for their anti-covid drug arguments. If Biden is supposedly having a bad time with covid then Trump's illness must've been a catastrophe.
You should change your name to schlemazel to be more accurate. Your questionable recollection of the incident still doesn't address the fact that Trump was back to normal after three days, while Biden is still infecting everyone around him several weeks after.
 
You should change your name to schlemazel to be more accurate. Your questionable recollection of the incident still doesn't address the fact that Trump was back to normal after three days, while Biden is still infecting everyone around him several weeks after.
Trump was faking it you fucking MIGApede. Ignore the fact that he felt good enough to fake it in the first place.
 
Oh, you mean the same outcome that most people who aren't infested with comorbidities had just by doing nothing? Because that's what it boils down to. The vast majority of people who got covid got over it quickly and haven't suffered these horror movie symptoms they've been promised for 2 years. And many of the people who died or have had noteworthy horror cases have been deathfats, geriatrics or had a history of medical issues already.

I'm reading this as "if you're sick or old then that's just tough luck if you die". Every doctor in the country, or even just any person with a relative or friend fitting those criteria, would have a very different opinion.

It doesn't help that the idiots shilling the jab have moved the goalposts so far without the requisite knowledge to do so - as soon as it became clear that it did jack shit to stop transmission the argument was changed to "well it keeps you out of the hospital!" even though that argument is retarded for the above reason as well as that by that point covid was already changing in its mutations to become weaker.

Like the author of the Substack article I originally responded to, you sound bitter that the argument moved on in light of new data - that's generally what happens in science since it's an evolving process. It's funny watching the people who claimed to be the true and honest arbiters of how the scientific method really works now squirming when witnessing that very method working before their eyes.

Yes, there were idiots promising all sorts of crazy things like how the vax makes you immune to catching the virus or how it can stop transmission (it does reduce it, but in the words of Wings "does not fucking stop it"). Uninformed / unrealistically optimistic libs from 2021 are living in your head rent free and all I can recommend is to get over it.

It's a simple principle in viral cases - viruses over time tend to mutate into either being highly lethal or highly transmissible. Covid has only become weaker since late 2020, so now even unjabbed deathfats and geriatrics have a chance since the virus itself is now predominantly found in weaker forms that don't attack the body as efficiently.

They get weaker and less deadly yes, but the data still shows that the vaccines confer some protection for the milder strains too (albeit reduced protection compared to the older strains). Another booster is needed to bring the protection more in line with previous strains.

But oh, I forgot - boosters bad and their necessity proves that the vaccine didn't work! In regards to needing a booster, I don't know why it's so difficult for people to accept that 1) antibodies wane over time and 2) viruses mutating also allows them to evade previous immunity, and so to address both problems you will need some sort of top up. Apparently acknowledging this lack of permanence and proposing a solution means you are "moving the goalposts".

It's really not unlike the flu booster old people get every year. Somehow those old people were sensible enough to realize that the strain that season was different and so the previous year's booster would no longer cut it.

As for the argument about studies, lol you realize there are a lot of "reputable medical journals" out there which also assert that men can be pregnant and menstruate and that women dont have a firm biological definition. Hell, just a week or so ago multiple medical orgs such as Boston Children's Hospital and some pediatrics specialists were saying that "science" says kids know their preferred gender while in the womb - you sure you're not willing to consider that maybe, just maybe, the "science" field has fallen victim to clown world as much as anything else?

"Gender retardation has infiltrated its way into some journals for a handful of unrelated topics, better abandon the entire peer review process"
 
I'm reading this as "if you're sick or old then that's just tough luck if you die". Every doctor in the country, or even just any person with a relative or friend fitting those criteria, would have a very different opinion.



Like the author of the Substack article I originally responded to, you sound bitter that the argument moved on in light of new data - that's generally what happens in science since it's an evolving process. It's funny watching the people who claimed to be the true and honest arbiters of how the scientific method really works now squirming when witnessing that very method working before their eyes.

Yes, there were idiots promising all sorts of crazy things like how the vax makes you immune to catching the virus or how it can stop transmission (it does reduce it, but in the words of Wings "does not fucking stop it"). Uninformed / unrealistically optimistic libs from 2021 are living in your head rent free and all I can recommend is to get over it.



They get weaker and less deadly yes, but the data still shows that the vaccines confer some protection for the milder strains too (albeit reduced protection compared to the older strains). Another booster is needed to bring the protection more in line with previous strains.

But oh, I forgot - boosters bad and their necessity proves that the vaccine didn't work! In regards to needing a booster, I don't know why it's so difficult for people to accept that 1) antibodies wane over time and 2) viruses mutating also allows them to evade previous immunity, and so to address both problems you will need some sort of top up. Apparently acknowledging this lack of permanence and proposing a solution means you are "moving the goalposts".

It's really not unlike the flu booster old people get every year. Somehow those old people were sensible enough to realize that the strain that season was different and so the previous year's booster would no longer cut it.



"Gender retardation has infiltrated its way into some journals for a handful of unrelated topics, better abandon the entire peer review process"
1. Read it however you want to, but "reducing' symptoms for a tiny minority of the population is not justification for forcing a significantly larger population to undergo gene therapy shots which we haven't even had time to study the full extent of side effects yet. And because of so many retards shouting "but tHe ScIeNcE!" any studies that do point out the flaws in Jabfest such as the Israeli studies showing boosters actually reducing immunity in some cases after the fourth shot, quickly get shouted down and buried. Call it natural selection, call it cruelty, but I'm not willing to take an ineffective shot with no examination of risk just because some other dumb fucks 92 year old fatass chain smoking mammy can go on gumming her apples another day.

2. No, the scientific process does not involve "welp this is it, only our word goes, no challenging." Nor does it involve "well everything we said so far was wrong but you stupid plebs should just trust us that we are still right when we update what we said that was wrong" when they don't provide any actual correction. The rates for the jab haven't went up significantly at all in quite some time and yet covid is becoming less and less prevalent, less and less a threat, and fewer people are dying from it. That doesn't exactly shout "the jab caused covid to go away" when the vax rates in many places have remained fairly consistent independent of varying waves of coof hitting. Some places which went gigavaxxed are still getting hit, some which have large unvaxxed pops haven't been hit much at all.

3. Refer to earlier argument. The shitlibs and vax shills aren't doing "the scientific method" they're throwing shit at a bar room dartboard and then when they miss they're blaming the guy 20 feet away not even playing darts and throwing another dart hoping for a hit. Science must produce results and to produce results things must be studied repeatedly. Get back to me in a few years when the actual data is out which isn't just a collection of snippets from a Pfizer brochure that got disseminated word for word through a variety of journo articles.

4. The rest of your post can be addressed more or less with this - stop putting your faith in people who consistently show you that they don't deserve it. Its peak retardation to actually believe that the same people who shill castration drugs and genital mutilation to children as "science" wouldn't also tell you and the other impressionable niggercattle to line up to take a shot of limited efficacy or you're un-personed and undeserving of basic rights.

You wanna call me bitter? Lol have a wakeup call nigger, I am bitter but my anger is directed toward the people who know better who are pushing this shit. Meanwhile the jab crowd openly wishes death and suffering on everyone unvaxxed on plebbit and twatter even though, as even you have acknowledged, the jab doesn't do much at all to reduce transmission. That's like sperging out because someone cheated in a game of solitaire. A bunch of perpetually MATI retards out there would see people like me hauled into concentration camps because I'm unwilling to inject myself with something I distrust, and I'm bitter for sperging at the people who advocate it and brainwashed the mobs into such an attitude :story:
 
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Lol except we aren't in a high risk, as per the CDC. I will trust them over the tard who claims grifters like Alex Jones are the epitome of health.

And like I said, even if I wanted it, they wouldn't give me the vaccine. I am not in a high risk group for it, and only high risk groups are able to get it right now.

I know that you hate scientists like a good little autistic Republican, so thus you hate vaccines. Now, go back to LARPing as a Russian like a good like /pol/tard
Hulk, seriously, what do you have to gain by defending a corrupt organization like the CDC other than owning chuds on the internet?
 
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Hulk, seriously, what do you have to gain by defending the a corrupt organization like the CDC other than owning chuds on the internet
Well I trust the scientists at the CDC a lot more than I trust retards who believe everything they read on 4chan

So what do you Branch Covidans think now that Fauci has annouced his retirement in December? Last but not least not vaxxed and never will be. Three years, the entirety of the pandemic and I have not been sick once, SUCK IT!
He's 81 years old. I hope he enjoys his retirement without having to deal with retarded schizos like you harassing him because he dared to listen to scientists over Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones
 
Well I trust the scientists at the CDC a lot more than I trust retards who believe everything they read on 4chan


He's 81 years old. I hope he enjoys his retirement without having to deal with retarded schizos like you harassing him because he dared to listen to scientists over Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones
How about scientists like Bret Weinstein and mRNA architect Robert Malone who are critics of the vaccine? If an organization gets to establish an orthodoxy that can't be questioned then it's not science
 
How about scientists like Bret Weinstein and mRNA architect Robert Malone who are critics of the vaccine? If an organization gets to establish an orthodoxy that can't be questioned then it's not science
Robert Malone is literally running a grift. He found out that he wasn't gonna get money for the mRNA vaccine, so now he's saying he invented it (he didn't) and started a pay service to subscribe to anti-vax news. I don't know who Bret Weinstein is, but I said "vast majority".
 
Robert Malone is literally running a grift. He found out that he wasn't gonna get money for the mRNA vaccine, so now he's saying he invented it (he didn't) and started a pay service to subscribe to anti-vax news. I don't know who Bret Weinstein is, but I said "vast majority".
So what you're saying is Trust the Science ™️, correct?
 
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