Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/11/23/vaccinated-people-now-make-up-majority-covid-deaths/

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Ah yes, Washington Post, famed den of Alex Jones types and reputed news source of the alt-right

Again, I know you are an uneducated, low IQ simpleton with crippling autism, so context is not easy for your dementia-riddled brain to understand. However, you gotta factor in that most of the population is vaccinated. 70% of the population is fully vaccinated, with about 80% having been partially vaccinated. So 58% of people dying in a group that accounts for 70-80% of the population shows that the vaccines do indeed work better than being unvaccinated. That means a group that is composed of 20% of the population is accounting for 42% of the covid deaths.

Thank you for proving that I am right, I do appreciate that

 

[Sithis]

Again, I know you are an uneducated, low IQ simpleton with crippling autism, so context is not easy for your dementia-riddled brain to understand. However, you gotta factor in that most of the population is vaccinated. 70% of the population is fully vaccinated, with about 80% having been partially vaccinated. So 58% of people dying in a group that accounts for 70-80% of the population shows that the vaccines do indeed work better than being unvaccinated. That means a group that is composed of 20% of the population is accounting for 42% of the covid deaths.

Thank you for proving that I am right, I do appreciate that

"More people are vaccinated and now more of the people who are dying are vaccinated!" is not making the case that the vaccines do any good whatsoever, you retarded chimpanzee
You seem completely oblivious to the trend that as more people have become vaccinated the share of people dying who are vaccinated has risen in direct correlation. I'd think any idiot could see that type of correlation as a sign that the "protection" offered by the jab rapidly approaching the same odds as a coin flip over time doesn't spell out being worth the risk of long term issues like stroke or blockages but I thought wrong there I suppose.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

"More people are vaccinated and now more of the people who are dying are vaccinated!" is not making the case that the vaccines do any good whatsoever, you retarded chimpanzee
You seem completely oblivious to the trend that as more people have become vaccinated the share of people dying who are vaccinated has risen in direct correlation. I'd think any idiot could see that type of correlation as a sign that the "protection" offered by the jab rapidly approaching the same odds as a coin flip over time doesn't spell out being worth the risk of long term issues like stroke or blockages but I thought wrong there I suppose.

Again, I understand you take a lot of pride in hating everything to do with education and intelligence, which is why you're an uneducated simpleton, but let me explain to you how it works.

If 80% of a group are vaccinated, and only 58% of the deaths are from those vaccinated, that means that 20% of the population accounts for 42% of the covid deaths. If the death rate was higher than 80%, then yes, you'd be right, but it's far lower. Now, again, I know you have told us all about your crippling autism and that combined with being a dementia-riddled 75 year old man means this will be hard for you to understand, but that means the vaccine works.

Most people who die in car accidents are wearing a seat belt because most people in cars are wearing seat belts. That doesn't mean seat belts works, it means you gotta look at the general population. It's really not hard logic to follow, even for someone like yourself who hates everything to do with intelligence and critical thinking.

Again, thank you for showing how I am right and you are wrong and I hope you talk to your case worker about this so she can explain it better to your senile brain than I can

 

[Sithis]

Again, I understand you take a lot of pride in hating everything to do with education and intelligence, which is why you're an uneducated simpleton, but let me explain to you how it works.

If 80% of a group are vaccinated, and only 58% of the deaths are from those vaccinated, that means that 20% of the population accounts for 42% of the covid deaths. If the death rate was higher than 80%, then yes, you'd be right, but it's far lower. Now, again, I know you have told us all about your crippling autism and that combined with being a dementia-riddled 75 year old man means this will be hard for you to understand, but that means the vaccine works.

Most people who die in car accidents are wearing a seat belt because most people in cars are wearing seat belts. That doesn't mean seat belts works, it means you gotta look at the general population. It's really not hard logic to follow, even for someone like yourself who hates everything to do with intelligence and critical thinking.

Again, thank you for showing how I am right and you are wrong and I hope you talk to your case worker about this so she can explain it better to your senile brain than I can

Again, you autistic monkey, you have missed the point entirely.
Over the entire course of the jabs, as you yourself point out, about 80% of people have received at least one dose of the clot shot. 70% received two, and fewer received boosterama.
That number has stayed fairly consistent for about a year now.
Yet, over the course of the year, per figures from Washington Post, an increasing number of covid deaths are among the vaccinated.
That means that as more time has passed, even though the rate of vaccination itself has remained fairly consistent, the share of people who have been vaxxed but are dying has increased. In the same time span as the 80% figure plateauing, the rate of vaxtards dying doubled and is on its way to doubling again just a few months past that point. So your figures of "42% dying unvaxxed from 20% of the population!" have been decreasing in statistical significance over time while the statistical significance of vaxtards dying has only increased as more time goes on.
What's the cause of this trend? Well I doubt it's boosters considering that has slowed down substantially and a lot of people now who got the vax don't want to get boosterama. As I've reiterated it's more likely that the reality is the vax never offered anywhere close to the protection that you dumb fucks touted it as having and in fact is somewhere in the range of placebo tier effectiveness at just over 50%.
50% odds of protection and ~20% odds of developing a long term medical complication, to "beat" a virus with a mortality rate under 1% that has historically killed off people who already had underlying conditions like being fatasses or having respiratory illnesses.
You might be stupid enough to look at those numbers and think "sign me up!" but I'm personally glad to have been born much smarter than that and capable of making informed decisions based on math vs what the television says to do.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Again, you autistic monkey, you have missed the point entirely.
Over the entire course of the jabs, as you yourself point out, about 80% of people have received at least one dose of the clot shot. 70% received two, and fewer received boosterama.
That number has stayed fairly consistent for about a year now.
Yet, over the course of the year, per figures from Washington Post, an increasing number of covid deaths are among the vaccinated.
That means that as more time has passed, even though the rate of vaccination itself has remained fairly consistent, the share of people who have been vaxxed but are dying has increased. In the same time span as the 80% figure plateauing, the rate of vaxtards dying doubled and is on its way to doubling again just a few months past that point. So your figures of "42% dying unvaxxed from 20% of the population!" have been decreasing in statistical significance over time while the statistical significance of vaxtards dying has only increased as more time goes on.
What's the cause of this trend? Well I doubt it's boosters considering that has slowed down substantially and a lot of people now who got the vax don't want to get boosterama. As I've reiterated it's more likely that the reality is the vax never offered anywhere close to the protection that you dumb fucks touted it as having and in fact is somewhere in the range of placebo tier effectiveness at just over 50%.
50% odds of protection and ~20% odds of developing a long term medical complication, to "beat" a virus with a mortality rate under 1% that has historically killed off people who already had underlying conditions like being fatasses or having respiratory illnesses.
You might be stupid enough to look at those numbers and think "sign me up!" but I'm personally glad to have been born much smarter than that and capable of making informed decisions based on math vs what the television says to do.

Again, you are showing that you don't understand how statistics work. I know you're a die-hard Republican given your being 75 years old and having crippling autism, but that doesn't mean you can't learn about how statistics work.

More people are vaccinated by a pretty high margin (4:1) yet deaths among vaccinated are not even near that. That shows that the vaccine works, despite what Alex Jones told you.

And again, as I have explained, you're far more likely to develop myocarditis from covid when being unvaccinated than from the vaccine itself. Again, I know you've told us all about your autism diagnosis which means you can't comprehend things that aren't 0% or 100%, but you gotta look at it from a risk analysis perspective. The vaccinated have a far better outcome than unvaccinated, both in long-term effects from covid (or the vaccine) and in mortality.

It's hilarious when boomers who talk about how awful education is pretend to know more about a virus than medical doctors because they watch Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones

 

[Sithis]

Again, you are showing that you don't understand how statistics work. I know you're a die-hard Republican given your being 75 years old and having crippling autism, but that doesn't mean you can't learn about how statistics work.

More people are vaccinated by a pretty high margin (4:1) yet deaths among vaccinated are not even near that. That shows that the vaccine works, despite what Alex Jones told you.

And again, as I have explained, you're far more likely to develop myocarditis from covid when being unvaccinated than from the vaccine itself. Again, I know you've told us all about your autism diagnosis which means you can't comprehend things that aren't 0% or 100%, but you gotta look at it from a risk analysis perspective. The vaccinated have a far better outcome than unvaccinated, both in long-term effects from covid (or the vaccine) and in mortality.

It's hilarious when boomers who talk about how awful education is pretend to know more about a virus than medical doctors because they watch Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones

You really don't understand trends or how they work, do you?
If one variable (rate of people vaxed) stays the same while the other (rate of people vaxed who are dying of covid anyway) increases over time, the assumption non-retards typically arrive at is to conclude that trend indicates declining evidence of effect from the stable variable (rate of people vaxed). It must take a special amount of committed autism for you to look at such a trend and arrive at the conclusion that 80% of the population having 50%+ share of coof deaths reflects anything but poorly on your "100% safe and effective" clot shot regardless of how many people die while unvaxxed, to say nothing of the decreasing significance of the unvaxxed population to the death count over time anyway.

And it's cute that you got hung up on myocarditis while ignoring the other shit like stroke, blood clots, seizures etc which also account for a lot of the nastier post-jab symptoms that went unreported for months until a court bitch slapped the CDC and made them cough up the data. It shows how little you understand about healthcare while also delivering the coup de grace on your own arguments about concern for people's health or well-being.

So we have to circle back to this point where I'm left wondering if you're really this stupid or if this is just a huge performative time wasting act, because you don't understand basic medicine, you don't understand basic math, you don't understand basic statistics or trends, and you are apparently allergic to common sense or deductive logic. The best I can say for you is that you've at least been consistently retarded enough to convince everyone there's a non-0 chance it's all an act and not a sign of brain damage.

 

[AnOminous]

still not getting it

Fag.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

Fag.

Don't want to be a fag? Then let this other guy insert his rod into you.

Edit: at least finally a provaxxer is calling out null for his grandma killing ways. Amazing how quiet the usual loud gaggle of faggots are when dear leader says something against their agenda.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

You really don't understand trends or how they work, do you?
If one variable (rate of people vaxed) stays the same while the other (rate of people vaxed who are dying of covid anyway) increases over time, the assumption non-retards typically arrive at is to conclude that trend indicates declining evidence of effect from the stable variable (rate of people vaxed). It must take a special amount of committed autism for you to look at such a trend and arrive at the conclusion that 80% of the population having 50%+ share of coof deaths reflects anything but poorly on your "100% safe and effective" clot shot regardless of how many people die while unvaxxed, to say nothing of the decreasing significance of the unvaxxed population to the death count over time anyway.

And it's cute that you got hung up on myocarditis while ignoring the other shit like stroke, blood clots, seizures etc which also account for a lot of the nastier post-jab symptoms that went unreported for months until a court bitch slapped the CDC and made them cough up the data. It shows how little you understand about healthcare while also delivering the coup de grace on your own arguments about concern for people's health or well-being.

So we have to circle back to this point where I'm left wondering if you're really this stupid or if this is just a huge performative time wasting act, because you don't understand basic medicine, you don't understand basic math, you don't understand basic statistics or trends, and you are apparently allergic to common sense or deductive logic. The best I can say for you is that you've at least been consistently retarded enough to convince everyone there's a non-0 chance it's all an act and not a sign of brain damage.

You are proving my point even more. More of your anti-vaxers are dying, which means the denominator is more vaccinated over time. Thanks again for admitting I am right! "The unvaccinated are dying faster, that means that the vaccine isn't working!" - Tucker Carlson watching boomer logic

For example, let's say 1000 people had a diseased. Of these 1000 people, 800 people got a new medication for it. To make the math easy, let's say 100 of those people died. If 58 of the people who died got the new med and 42 didn't, that would mean the med was still effective since 80% of them took the med. Now, I know you're a 75 year old man who hates any education that's not based on the bible, but that's pretty easy math to understand.

Getting covid when unvaccinated also leads to an increase in stroke, blood clots, seizures, etc... at a far higher rate than those who are vaccinated and get covid. I only used myocarditis because that was the one you highlighted. Again, I understand your diseased brain can't comprehend things that aren't 0% or 100%, but talk to your case worker about it.

Don't want to be a fag? Then let this other guy insert his rod into you.

It's amazing how terrified of a little jab you are, little guy.

 

[AnOminous]

You are proving my point even more. More of your anti-vaxers are dying, which means the denominator is more vaccinated over time. Thanks again for admitting I am right!

My family finally had a get-together for Thanksgiving last Sunday (because most of us actually work lmao not me though). Since so many are in the medical profession, there were tales told of who was clogging up the intensive care parts of the hospitals. It was pretty much antivax retards.

My favorite retard lolcow was the guy who literally denied COVID existed while dying of it, and tried to AMA himself out of the hospital while he was on 6 liters of 80% O2. They told him he was retarded and he wouldn't even make it out the front door.

And then he tried to do it. And unsurprisingly keeled over well before he got there. Also he died. Lmao retard, idiots weeding themselves out of the gene pool.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

My family finally had a get-together for Thanksgiving last Sunday (because most of us actually work lmao not me though). Since so many are in the medical profession, there were tales told of who was clogging up the intensive care parts of the hospitals. It was pretty much antivax retards.

My favorite retard lolcow was the guy who literally denied COVID existed while dying of it, and tried to AMA himself out of the hospital while he was on 6 liters of 80% O2. They told him he was retarded and he wouldn't even make it out the front door.

And then he tried to do it. And unsurprisingly keeled over well before he got there. Also he died. Lmao retard, idiots weeding themselves out of the gene pool.

I wonder which A&Her that retard was. Who hasn't posted lately?

One of my best friends is a physician and said the only covid deaths he sees are unvaccinated and those who have autoimmune conditions (like organ transplants).

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

My favorite retard lolcow was the guy who literally denied COVID existed while dying of it, and tried to AMA himself out of the hospital while he was on 6 liters of 80% O2. They told him he was retarded and he wouldn't even make it out the front door.

And his name? Albert Einstein. And with his last dying breath he said "if only I got the vaccine..."

 

[Sithis]

You are proving my point even more. More of your anti-vaxers are dying, which means the denominator is more vaccinated over time. Thanks again for admitting I am right!

For example, let's say 1000 people had a diseased. Of these 1000 people, 800 people got a new medication for it. To make the math easy, let's say 100 of those people died. If 58 of the people who died got the new med and 42 didn't, that would mean the med was still effective since 80% of them took the med. Now, I know you're a 75 year old man who hates any education that's not based on the bible, but that's pretty easy math to understand.

Getting covid when unvaccinated also leads to an increase in stroke, blood clots, seizures, etc... at a far higher rate than those who are vaccinated and get covid. I only used myocarditis because that was the one you highlighted. Again, I understand your diseased brain can't comprehend things that aren't 0% or 100%, but talk to your case worker about it.


It's amazing how terrified of a little jab you are, little guy.

How are you this dense? I get that you're relying on your desperate attempt to show arithmetic but the conclusions you're arriving at based on the numbers are just laughably wrong.
Using your own example, if 58 out of 100 people who died received were people who had received a new medication, that means that with any one case of death, you could still flip a coin and let chance odds determine whether that person had been medicated or unmedicated.
Even setting aside the claims made by retards like you and every other midwit who gets their entire worldview from a shrill voiced short haired cunt on the TV (that's not even specific to Maddow anymore that's essentially anyone on MSNBC) that the jab was "100% safe and effective" that still translates to being much less than 100% effective.
"But! But! 20% of the population being unvaxxed still shows an outsized disparity!"
Not really as much as your entire premise seems to rest on. Again, with 58 out of 100 people dying coming from the 80% of the population who is vaxed, that still comes out to just over chance odds that any one death encountered is vaxed. While the odds of dying while unvaxxed have decreased over time, they've increased for vaxtards.
And again, this is important - the rate of vaccination has not increased substantially in over a year. In fact it has barely budged. So the one trend, the dependent variable in this case, is changing while the independent variable remains steady over time.
Ask any research methods professor what that indicates in terms of effect of the independent variable, go on, please.

It's funny that you keep regurgitating "muh diseased brain 0 or 100%" when you have, for over a year now, at each and every step, had to move the goal posts for just how effective you claim the jab is. While the rates of people encountering long term medical issues from the jab itself have corresponded with the number of people getting the jab, you have shifted your claims from agreeing that it's 100% effective to now just vaguely stooping to true nigger logic "well if you don't get it you're a p-p-pusssssy".
You use tired old insults, retarded logic, and you do whatever your chosen masters tell you - you are the niggerest of niggercattle.

One of my best friends is a physician and said the only covid deaths he sees are unvaccinated and those who have autoimmune conditions (like organ transplants).

You can stop lying Hulk we know you don't have friends.

 

[AnOminous]

And his name? Albert Einstein. And with his last dying breath he said "if only I got the vaccine..."

Yeah I'll trust my own family over retards like you.

You can stop lying Hulk we know you don't have friends.

You sound seriously buttmad about the fact that other people have friends and family. It must be rough to have to pretend other people are as friendless as you.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

Yeah I'll trust my own family over retards like you.

FYI a family of retards is still retarded

 

[Sithis]

You sound seriously buttmad about the fact that other people have friends and family. It must be rough to have to pretend other people are as friendless as you.

The fact that you thought I was being srsbzness there says more about you than I can lmao
Have you not figured out yet that we slapfight with reckless abandon because it's fun, not because we give a shit?

 

[RussianParasite]

Again, I know you are an uneducated, low IQ simpleton with crippling autism, so context is not easy for your dementia-riddled brain to understand. However, you gotta factor in that most of the population is vaccinated. 70% of the population is fully vaccinated, with about 80% having been partially vaccinated. So 58% of people dying in a group that accounts for 70-80% of the population shows that the vaccines do indeed work better than being unvaccinated. That means a group that is composed of 20% of the population is accounting for 42% of the covid deaths.

Thank you for proving that I am right, I do appreciate that

You know, for a site in which users generally understand that 13% of the population is committing 50% of crimes, I’m quite surprised to see the retards here not understanding how ratios work when it comes to medical information just because they (those that HATE the vaccine) don’t like it.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

How are you this dense? I get that you're relying on your desperate attempt to show arithmetic but the conclusions you're arriving at based on the numbers are just laughably wrong.
Using your own example, if 58 out of 100 people who died received were people who had received a new medication, that means that with any one case of death, you could still flip a coin and let chance odds determine whether that person had been medicated or unmedicated.
Even setting aside the claims made by retards like you and every other midwit who gets their entire worldview from a shrill voiced short haired cunt on the TV (that's not even specific to Maddow anymore that's essentially anyone on MSNBC) that the jab was "100% safe and effective" that still translates to being much less than 100% effective.
"But! But! 20% of the population being unvaxxed still shows an outsized disparity!"
Not really as much as your entire premise seems to rest on. Again, with 58 out of 100 people dying coming from the 80% of the population who is vaxed, that still comes out to just over chance odds that any one death encountered is vaxed. While the odds of dying while unvaxxed have decreased over time, they've increased for vaxtards.
And again, this is important - the rate of vaccination has not increased substantially in over a year. In fact it has barely budged. So the one trend, the dependent variable in this case, is changing while the independent variable remains steady over time.
Ask any research methods professor what that indicates in terms of effect of the independent variable, go on, please.

It's funny that you keep regurgitating "muh diseased brain 0 or 100%" when you have, for over a year now, at each and every step, had to move the goal posts for just how effective you claim the jab is. While the rates of people encountering long term medical issues from the jab itself have corresponded with the number of people getting the jab, you have shifted your claims from agreeing that it's 100% effective to now just vaguely stooping to true nigger logic "well if you don't get it you're a p-p-pusssssy".
You use tired old insults, retarded logic, and you do whatever your chosen masters tell you - you are the niggerest of niggercattle.

Lol ironic that the guy who doesn't understand statistics and denominators is calling someone else "dense".

You literally are admitting that the unvaccinated are dying at higher rates by saying that the number of vaccinated is increasing, so thank you for admitting that I am right. You are proving the adage that Republican boomers hate education more and more each time you post, especially with this post given your inability to understand statistics and denominators.

And again, I know reading is hard for 75 year old senile men who receive SSI for being a low IQ autist, but the rate of complications from the vaccine is far lower than getting the same effects from covid itself. Now, I know you have autism and thus things that aren't 100% are automatically 0% to your senile, diseased brain, but that's not how the world works.

You are showing the signs of crippling autism here, son. Using /pol/ terms like "niggercattle" and not understanding how things that aren't 0% and 100% are proof that you have crippling autism. Please, talk to your case worker about these things and she can explain it you.

FYI a family of retards is still retarded

Ironic coming from the guy who claims watching Tucker Carlson makes him know more about medicine than doctors and medical scientists and that Alex Jones is the epitome of health

You know, for a site in which users generally understand that 13% of the population is committing 50% of crimes, I’m quite surprised to see the retards here not understanding how ratios work when it comes to medical information just because they (those that HATE the vaccine) don’t like it.

Anti-vaxers have a reputation for being uneducated retards for a good reason

 

[autistic dog]

Fag.

Wrong disease you're thinking of monkeypox.

 

[autistic dog]

Hollywood Hulk why do you care so much if other people don't get the vaccine. According to you they are going to die and are idiots. Sounds like your should be happy they are not getting the vaccine. Your aggressive position is equivalent to if the anti-vaxxers here wanted to stop you from getting the vaccine. It is inconsistent with your claimed beliefs on the matter.

We don't want to stop you because we really do actually think it will kill you and that your an idiot. Allowing you to retain access to the vaccine is consistent with that belief.