Opinion As a mother, of course I’d be happy for a trans employee to fit my daughter’s first bra - As Marks & Spencer apologises after a trans employee offers to help a 14-year-old girl and her mother in the bra department, Victoria Richards says there’s only one person that has been let down here – and it’s not the customer

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/m-s-trans-employee-teenager-bra-fitting-rowling-b2802822.html
https://archive.is/NxqUv
I remember going to get measured for my first bra in the 1990s. It was in Marks and Spencer, of course, the retailer has had a firm hold on that particular market for decades, and I absolutely cringed with embarrassment.
Honestly, I nearly died. I crossed my arms over my chest and huffed self-consciously; I counted down the minutes until it was over and acted every inch the recalcitrant teenager who hated both the experience and everyone around me, including my mum.

Fast forward 30 years, and when I recently took my daughter for her first bra fitting, I was peculiarly gratified to see that she acted pretty much the same way I did. Teenagers may have smartphones and TikTok and all the tech and street smarts we didn’t, but some things really do never change.
The one thing that has changed, on the whole, is Gen Alpha’s greater understanding and empathy towards those around them. And so much the better.

Half of my daughter’s friends school the adults around them in the right pronouns to use for their peers. “They/them” is second nature to most of these kids. Us dinosaur millennials and Gen X-ers, meanwhile, should stand happily corrected (and make an effort to get it right when we slip up).

Which is why, when I read the story about M&S – the same M&S who boast about being “Your M&S,” which presumably includes their own employees – reportedlyapologising for “distress” over a trans member of staff asking a teenage customer if she needed any help in its bra section, I only had one question: what on earth were they apologising for?
The mother of the teenager in question, who complained to the store, said the retail assistant was “polite”, but that her daughter felt “uncomfortable” with the experience. M&S told her: “We deeply regret the distress your daughter felt during her visit to our store,” and that “We understand how important this milestone is for her, and we are truly sorry that it did not go as you had hoped.”

To which all I have to say is: show me a teenager who doesn’t feel uncomfortable in the lingerie section of Marks & Spencer, and I’ll show you a miracle. Of course, there’s more going on here – a lot more.

The mother apparently blamed the reason for her daughter’s discomfort on the fact that the staff member seemed to be “a biological male” – at 6ft 2in, it was “obvious”, she is reported to have said. To that claim, I will now quote my friend and colleague Kat Brown, who wrote after the Supreme Court ruled on the legal definition of a woman in April: “This ruling also means that any woman who doesn’t resemble some mythical feminine ideal also risks being challenged in loos and changing rooms” – and indeed, this has already happened to Kat, who stands at a statuesque 6ft 1in.
We don’t know whether the staff member who reached out to offer assistance to this 14-year-old child was trans, and it doesn’t even appear that they were offering to fit bras for her. But even if she were trans, she was just doing her job, and doing it well, by all accounts. Doesn’t every one of us deserve to be able to do that without discrimination or prejudice, let alone an apology from our employer related to us simply existing?

Had the person offering to help my 13-year-old daughter in the M&S undies department been trans, I would have had no problem with it – and crucially, neither would she. How do I know? I asked her.

My daughter’s exact response (with the inevitable bit of exasperated sighing) to being helped, or even fitted, was: “I’d hate anyone measuring me, Mummy. Why would it make any difference if they were trans?”

When I explained the nuances of this particular situation, she added a cutting: “Why is this a story?”

I understand those defending personal choice. In an ideal world, nobody would feel uncomfortable – especially children. But isn’t it our job, as parents (and members of society at large) to unpick this discomfort and name it for what it really is: prejudice. And to teach our children, just as we teach them to treat others equally, to be kind through our example.

What would you say if you heard, for example, that a person of colour working in M&S had approached a teenage customer and politely offered assistance, only for the teenager to feel uncomfortable, the parent to be outraged and complain about their “distress” – and the store to write an apology?

In 2025, trans people are under fire like never before. The most recent data from the Home Office shows that offences motivated by hostility or prejudice against transgender people or people perceived to be transgender have risen; at the same time that trans people have effectively been banned from using public spaces, including toilets, thanks to the Supreme Court ruling on biological sex.
There’s only one person that M&S has let down here – and it’s not a customer. It’s their employee.


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I am a Press Association-trained freelance journalist, and have worked for a variety of national UK newspapers including The Independent and Independent on Sunday, the Financial Times, the Sunday Times, the Daily Express, the Sun, the Sunday Mirror, the People, London’s Evening Standard and the Daily Star. I have held both senior news reporting and features writing positions, and spend my time most regularly reporting for the Independent on Sunday and Express Newspapers Ltd (Daily Star/Daily Express). I have an extensive portfolio of work available on my website, www.victoriarichards.co.uk, and have also written my first work of fiction.

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There’s only one person that M&S has let down here – and it’s not a customer. It’s their employee.

Fucking WRONG. When it comes to any business that caters to a customer base, be it clothing as in this case, Hollywood and the viewing audience, the video game industry and gamers, or automotive manufacturers like FAGuar and potential car buyers, the customer and their satisfaction should always be first and foremost. The saying "The customer is always right" is often misused and misquoted. The full saying is "the customer is always right in matters of taste". It does not mean the customer always gets their way and gets whatever they want regardless of the business. However, customer satisfaction should always be the primary goal.

That also means putting the right employees/sales reps in the right departments. Having a biological male in the womens intimates department is wrong, no matter how they identify. Not every customer is going to be brainwashed by Libshit faggot propaganda. Not every customer is going to be comfortable discussing her underwear or getting fitted for a bra by a sales associate who they know was born with a dick and balls. Their feelings are valid and it is wrong to dismiss their comfort like this. It wasn't that long ago that Leftards would froth at the mouth in rage if someone were to discount another person's "lived experience". This is a huge part of why society has ended their support in the LGBT community in general, and in trannies specifically. Their narcissism is repellent, and trans activists and allies placing them upon a pedestal as a class beyond reproach goes against the core value of fair play that most Western cultures hold dear.

This is not how you win over hearts and minds, but instead continue to turn hearts against the rainbow alphabet squad.
 
What would you say if you heard, for example, that a person of colour working in M&S had approached a teenage customer and politely offered assistance, only for the teenager to feel uncomfortable, the parent to be outraged and complain about their “distress” – and the store to write an apology?
Not relevant, skin color and genes aren't a choice or decision.

Fetishes of any kind, are choices
 
Exactly

And people can't be very wicked to their children in general

Self service and ego are terrible things
A lot of parents seem to think their children exist to prop them up in some way. Offering up a tween or teen daughter to a tranny is the shitlib version.
The biggest threat to children is brown men and homosexuals (which trannies are just a derivation of).
Most trannies are straight. And undoubtedly the transvestite lurking in the lingerie department at M&S is not gay.
 
A lot of parents seem to think their children exist to prop them up in some way. Offering up a tween or teen daughter to a tranny is the shitlib version.
Right. That's how my mom is. Not the tranny part, but the "You exist to support and prop me up" shit.

My girlfriends mom is the same way

I think in general, there's a parent "gene" that kicks in when you have a kid, and for some people it never activates. They're manipulative people already and that gene never kicks on and the kid is just another person they can use
 
Not relevant, skin color and genes aren't a choice or decision.

Fetishes of any kind, are choices
I also don't believe a black woman would walk up to a white kid and say "want me to help you put a bra on?"

Because NO ONE actually does this. It's just another example of trannies trying to roleplay as women. And since it's a roleplay, what do we think the tranny would ACTUALLY do in the dressing oom? "Oh I thought women have pillow fights in their underwear at sleepovers"
 
I also don't believe a black woman would walk up to a white kid and say "want me to help you put a bra on?"

Because NO ONE actually does this. It's just another example of trannies trying to roleplay as women. And since it's a roleplay, what do we think the tranny would ACTUALLY do in the dressing oom? "Oh I thought women have pillow fights in their underwear at sleepovers"
Well think of how trannies are in general. They put on a dress and makeup and cut their balls off and think they're women. They think lipstick and dresses are what define women.
 
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