Assassin's Creed thread

Spit bucket said:
The settings were more just a backdrop to the Assassin's vs Templar plot. AC1 was during the Third crusade in 1191 but all the goings on of the day happen away from Altair. After AC3 they kept trying to tie in the setting more and more with the Assassin plot line. But it wasn't too bad because you played a fictional character. What they are doing now is making a mountain out of a mole hill with the main character and the setting/storyline.
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Yeah, I haven't touched the series since Unity, but I found it odd the player character was an actual historical figure this time. Usually they would at most have the protagonist meet and help the historical figure rather than being them. (And this is assuming Yasuke is even a fucking real historical figure which at this point given evidence presented in the thread I'm starting to think he's totally made up.) Like you didn't play as fucking George Washington in AC3 for instance but you did meet him and assist him.
Meanwhile in the other games they had historical figures as the villains like Robert De Sable in AC1, or fucking Caesare Borgia in AC2/Brotherhood, ect.

Though I can't tell if it would have been better or worse since they probably still would've made some bullshit like Yasuke is the leader of the japanese asssassin brotherhood or whatever had he be a character you assist instead of play as.
 
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David Kirk Ginder said:
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Archiving confirmed bots because fuck astroturfing. Ironic considering "they" often accuse Japanese users of being bots with no proof.

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Okay let's make our way to the Ubisoft Japan Youtube page.


Here's a few comments from Japanese users.

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Here's an amazing thread where the Japanese, Korean and Chinese people (famously known for hating each other) unite to dunk on the game, despite not knowing each other's language. For this kind of thing to happen, you KNOW Ubisoft fucked up.
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All the bots are females, looks like its true, female gamers are on the rise :story:

Female Gamers Are On The Rise. Can The Gaming Industry Catch Up?
Breaking Boundaries: The Rise of Women in Gaming
Breaking Stereotypes: About 50% of Gamers Are Women
 
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I really liked the original Assassin's Creed, and none of the rest of the series, even AC2 to AC Revelations captured the same magic imo. I'm a sucker for conspiracy style plots and AC1 had that in spades. Sneaking around reading notes, getting into closed doors, seeing the weird glowy glyphs left by the last subject, it all reminded me so much of Deus Ex which is the best game of all time just saying. I played up until Black Flag, how is the series now that it's generic Ubisoft RPG slop?

Ubisoft should have taken notes on AC1 since it checks a lot of the diversity boxes they want. You play as a muslim assassin during the crusades where the white male Christians were the bad guys. It can't get much more woke than that, yet somehow they magically made it work.
 
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According to Hero Hei, Ubisoft's pajeet bot army flooded the comments section of his previous video about Ubisoft:
 
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Gravityqueen4life said:
Assassin's Creed: Shadows currently advertised in Akihabara.

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Did you notice? where is Yasuke?
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Is Ubisoft doing a Disney? In Star Wars The Force Awakens movie posters in China, Disney removed or minimized the Black stormtrooper character. The reason is that Asians don't worship niggers like the West does so companies can't use "we got a nigger in here!" as a selling point.
 
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Miller said:
According to Hero Hei, Ubisoft's pajeet bot army flooded the comments section of his previous video about Ubisoft:
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Looks like a few of those bots have been reused from the ACS World Trailer. I documented these 2 in a previous post: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/assassins-creed-thread.49162/post-19337555
 
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Since everyone is talking about how woke AC: Shadows is, I was wanting to ask; any AC games that could be described as based? Or at least non-woke; closest one I can think of at the top of my head is Rogue. Any suggestions?
 
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Since everyone is talking about how woke AC: Shadows is, I was wanting to ask; any AC games that could be described as based? Or at least non-woke; closest one I can think of at the top of my head is Rogue. Any suggestions?
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I'd say that AC 1 is still pretty based despite the whole "Lol evil Templars trying to steal muh muslim cities." thing it got going on, because despite the Templars being the baddies, they all make very valid points that Altair cannot find too many arguments against besides "No, that is morally wrong."


They make arguments like "If someone is too mentally ill to function in society, wouldn't it be better to keep them drugged and docile than leaving them to rampage in the city or become beggars and prostitutes?"
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"Why do Assassins claim to be pro-freedom but follow Islam, a religion that tells people how to behave and think?"
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"Isn't it better to restrict a population's freedoms to grant them safety from war and crime than just letting everyone do whatever they want?"

Of course, neither side is completely correct, and Altair finds out that the master of the assassins himself is a templar, and that most assassins have actually been hypnotized or brainwashed by the Apple of Eden. Most of the cities Altair "frees" end up overrun by beggars, crazies and thieves since the templars and their followers were the only thing keeping order. In the beginning the baddies all seem to just want to make Altair doubt his actions, but most were entirely correct in the end.
 
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Scream Aim Fire said:
Since everyone is talking about how woke AC: Shadows is, I was wanting to ask; any AC games that could be described as based? Or at least non-woke; closest one I can think of at the top of my head is Rogue. Any suggestions?
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Shay is the reason why the American Templar Order was destroyed by Connor because he didn't have the heart to kill Achilles. What is "based" about that?
 
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Kotol said:
I'd say that AC 1 is still pretty based despite the whole "Lol evil Templars trying to steal muh muslim cities." thing it got going on, because despite the Templars being the baddies, they all make very valid points that Altair cannot find too many arguments against besides "No, that is morally wrong."
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To be honest, it's been a long time since I've gone over AC1's lore; should really give that game a shot again sometime...

Adam Basile Woodrow said:
Shay is the reason why the American Templar Order was destroyed by Connor because he didn't have the heart to kill Achilles. What is "based" about that?
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No idea, honestly; Rogue was the game you play as a Templar, and given how Ubi's been turning the series increasingly woke with the past few games - coupled with the Assassins being the woke "good guys" and the Templars being the "bad guys" - Rogue was the first game that came to mind.

If you have a better one, then I would genuinely like to know; I like the series, I just really, really hate that Ubi's making woke crap like Shadows.
 
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Scream Aim Fire said:
Since everyone is talking about how woke AC: Shadows is, I was wanting to ask; any AC games that could be described as based? Or at least non-woke; closest one I can think of at the top of my head is Rogue. Any suggestions?
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Maybe Black Flag? The whole story is about Edward learning to better himself for others instead of for himself. He spends the entire game obsessed with fame and wealth but finds that he's lost everyone and is all alone despite having acquired all these riches.

Even their little story with the pirate republic goes to shit quickly as they are unable to deal with an outbreak of famine and disease. It's very much the death of idealist dreams and learning to be responsible for those around you.

The templars are still unironic evil bad guys but the British, which are presented throughout as being authoritarian, are just trying to curtail criminals like yourself.
 
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Kotol said:
I'd say that AC 1 is still pretty based despite the whole "Lol evil Templars trying to steal muh muslim cities." thing it got going on, because despite the Templars being the baddies, they all make very valid points that Altair cannot find too many arguments against besides "No, that is morally wrong."


They make arguments like "If someone is too mentally ill to function in society, wouldn't it be better to keep them drugged and docile than leaving them to rampage in the city or become beggars and prostitutes?"
or
"Why do Assassins claim to be pro-freedom but follow Islam, a religion that tells people how to behave and think?"
or
"Isn't it better to restrict a population's freedoms to grant them safety from war and crime than just letting everyone do whatever they want?"

Of course, neither side is completely correct, and Altair finds out that the master of the assassins himself is a templar, and that most assassins have actually been hypnotized or brainwashed by the Apple of Eden. Most of the cities Altair "frees" end up overrun by beggars, crazies and thieves since the templars and their followers were the only thing keeping order. In the beginning the baddies all seem to just want to make Altair doubt his actions, but most were entirely correct in the end.
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They didn't even make the Templars ne about the Knights Templar because half the templars are arabs.
Honestly Ubisoft should have figured out already by AC 1 that making the templars the bad guys was short sigthed as that limits them to when and where they can operate.
"Order of the Ancients" is very vague though.
You got shit like the Zoroastrian cults that spread from ancient Persia to the latin world, but I guess the templars have more mass appeal
 
I mean both the Assassins and the Templars are something that's intimately tied to the Crusade era. It was kind of strongly implied in the first game that they'd only began to form relatively recently and the discoveries of the pieces of Eden and ancient civilizations were new things. Then they started retconning their own lore and things turned into a mess.
Kotol said:
I'd say that AC 1 is still pretty based despite the whole "Lol evil Templars trying to steal muh muslim cities." thing it got going on, because despite the Templars being the baddies, they all make very valid points that Altair cannot find too many arguments against besides "No, that is morally wrong."


They make arguments like "If someone is too mentally ill to function in society, wouldn't it be better to keep them drugged and docile than leaving them to rampage in the city or become beggars and prostitutes?"
or
"Why do Assassins claim to be pro-freedom but follow Islam, a religion that tells people how to behave and think?"
or
"Isn't it better to restrict a population's freedoms to grant them safety from war and crime than just letting everyone do whatever they want?"

Of course, neither side is completely correct, and Altair finds out that the master of the assassins himself is a templar, and that most assassins have actually been hypnotized or brainwashed by the Apple of Eden. Most of the cities Altair "frees" end up overrun by beggars, crazies and thieves since the templars and their followers were the only thing keeping order. In the beginning the baddies all seem to just want to make Altair doubt his actions, but most were entirely correct in the end.
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My memory of AC1 is admittedly hazy but that doesn't seem correct. For one AC1 shits all over organized religion in all its forms and makes it very clear from the start that the Assassins you're playing as are closer to the militant fedora atheist type than the actual Nizami sect they were in real life. Same thing goes for the Templars who have barely fuck-all to do with Christianity in the game other than using symbols like the cross and having vaguely religious-themed lines about the Father of Understanding.

In fact I remember that one of the complaints about the original game (besides how repetitive it was) is how it completely stripped the actual historical organizations involved of any religious philosophical underpinnings and thus made them flat and kind of boring.
 
A dev journal of Assassin's Creed shadows has been leaked on IGN China. Can't find an archive of the video, but here's one of many articles talking about it.

The game has been delayed to February 2025 (A) , following a series of rumors that stemmed from Ubisoft pulling out of the Tokyo Game Show (A). Japanese users are goofing on Ubisoft in the replies.

Hopefully the delay will result in a decentass game, but probably not.
 
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