Assassin's Creed thread

[Sprocket]

No, Steam is not the primary PC release either.
Ubisoft has its own launcher, UbiConnect.
Steams does not represent even the entirety of the PC sales.

I can't see that many people choose buying any game via any other launcher if Steam is an option.

 

[Gobermental Supervisor]

I never said anyone can compete with Steam in general, but Ubisoft offering a 20% discount on their own platform even if disguised with their own currency option is still a better deal for them than a sale on Steam.

AFAIK Steam takes a flat 30%, so Ubisoft has an interest in getting repeat customers to stick with their own platform. And every single person who owned a previous AC game has that launcher on their computer (and the 100 UbiToken to get the discount). So the entry barrier isn't really a problem in this case.

If I were to buy a game and had the option to pay 69.99€ on Steam or 55.99€ on another platform I also have an account on, I would buy the cheaper one.
The only point of my argument was that Steam players numbers should not be used as a metric for the PC sales and I think my argument WHY are reasonable enough to concede that there are likely a significant portion, if not the majority of PC sales, happening on UbiConnect.

 

[p1138]

I never said anyone can compete with Steam in general, but Ubisoft offering a 20% discount on their own platform even if disguised with their own currency option is still a better deal for them than a sale on Steam.

AFAIK Steam takes a flat 30%, so Ubisoft has an interest in getting repeat customers to stick with their own platform. And every single person who owned a previous AC game has that launcher on their computer (and the 100 UbiToken to get the discount). So the entry barrier isn't really a problem in this case.

If I were to buy a game and had the option to pay 69.99€ on Steam or 55.99€ on another platform I also have an account on, I would buy the cheaper one.
The only point of my argument was that Steam players numbers should not be used as a metric for the PC sales and I think my argument WHY are reasonable enough to concede that there are likely a significant portion, if not the majority of PC sales, happening on UbiConnect.

So Amazon, Google, GOG, Epic, EA, Microsoft, etc. have all failed to compete with Steam with a multiplatform release. But Ubisoft has pulled it off with a shitty game because of a 20% discount?

Do you have any idea how retarded that sounds?

 

[Preacher ✝]

You could watch half of MGS3: The Movie in the same time frame as these jeet filled credits.

It would be a far better use of that time.

 

[Gobermental Supervisor]

Alright, please continue to gobble up some SmashJT or Asmonslop when they tell you the game only sold 40k copies on PC because they look at SteamDB peak players.

The real Steamguard are the sweepers on the forums, you people might as well be Reddit users.

 

[p1138]

Alright, please continue to gobble up some SmashJT or Asmonslop when they tell you the game only sold 40k copies on PC because they look at SteamDB peak players.

The real Steamguard are the sweepers on the forums, you people might as well be Reddit users.

You dumbass, I already said previously that steam concurrent numbers don't equal sales.

That's not right either. Steam's concurrent player count peaked at around 40k. Could be 4-5 times that owning it on steam, just not all playing at the same time.

You can't read, and you're pulling shit entirely out of your ass to defend low steam numbers for a shitty game. SmashJT and Asmongold have nothing to do with you sounding like a ubislop bootlicker.

 

[PaulBearer]

Alright, please continue to gobble up some SmashJT or Asmonslop when they tell you the game only sold 40k copies on PC because they look at SteamDB peak players.

The real Steamguard are the sweepers on the forums, you people might as well be Reddit users.

I suppose the fact Ubisoft have been leaning on Steam to hide the player count is just one of those wacky things that happens for no reason.

 

[moocow]

Just wait until the fallout from B.R.I.D.G.E. starts being seen (the thing that's being mandated behind the scenes right now). You ain't seen nothing yet.

Is that this bullshit? I see quotes like "We deploy interconnected tiers of mental health care for students, families, and educator to disrupt cycles of oppression" on their pages, so it certainly seems pozzed enough to be a match.

 

[SmugAutist]

I never said anyone can compete with Steam in general, but Ubisoft offering a 20% discount on their own platform even if disguised with their own currency option is still a better deal for them than a sale on Steam.

This is generally not how consumers work. There's extremely few people who cross examine prices on different platforms, stores or shops and selectively buy from those stores. This behavior has been going on for years. Economic books are written about this behavior. Most PC gamers are on Steam. Epic does more discounts than Steam and they still can't dethrone them because players just prefer Steam and would rather pay the extra $5-10 just so they can keep all their stuff in their account. EA tried to get their own system running, it failed and they had to crawl back to Steam. Same with Bethesda, and same with Ubisoft.

 

[p1138]

Is that this bullshit? I see quotes like "We deploy interconnected tiers of mental health care for students, families, and educator to disrupt cycles of oppression" on their pages, so it certainly seems pozzed enough to be a match.

Not quite. That looks like some school children specific program. The B.R.I.D.G.E. replacing DEI is this https://wearebridge.com/
Although I wouldn't be surprised if the one you found was somehow related.

The BRIDGE mission is to create a cultural shift in companies where DEI principles flow through all facets of an organization, from the C-Suite and marketing through product development, procurement and customer service.

This is generally not how consumers work. There's extremely few people who cross examine prices on different platforms, stores or shops and selectively buy from those stores. This behavior has been going on for years. Economic books are written about this behavior. Most PC gamers are on Steam. Epic does more discounts than Steam and they still can't dethrone them because players just prefer Steam and would rather pay the extra $5-10 just so they can keep all their stuff in their account. EA tried to get their own system running, it failed and they had to crawl back to Steam. Same with Bethesda, and same with Ubisoft.

Lol, I forgot about the shortlived bethesda store thing before they went back to steam.

 

[Michael Wade]

What other franchises does Ubisoft own besides AC? Chinks mercifully haven't been doing too much with what they have but expect everything tenent owns to be buryed in a vault somewhere.

They cancelled work on a third Adam Jenson deus ex

 

[SmugAutist]

What other franchises does Ubisoft own besides AC? Chinks mercifully haven't been doing too much with what they have but expect everything tenent owns to be buryed in a vault somewhere.

They cancelled work on a third Adam Jenson deus ex

There's the Prince of Persia but they fucked that up too. Their biggest cash cow is the Tom Clancy licensed stuff.

 

[p1138]

What other franchises does Ubisoft own besides AC? Chinks mercifully haven't been doing too much with what they have but expect everything tenent owns to be buryed in a vault somewhere.

They cancelled work on a third Adam Jenson deus ex

Deus Ex was Eidos and Square/Enix.
Ubisoft owns Rayman, Anno, Prince of Persia, all of the Tom Clancy games, Far Cry, Watchdogs, Might & Magic, and a few others.

 

[TrainWreckWatcher]

Oh this is bad, very bad.
Friday night and its DOWN on player count

 

[Gamepads]

Not quite. That looks like some school children specific program. The B.R.I.D.G.E. replacing DEI is this https://wearebridge.com/
Although I wouldn't be surprised if the one you found was somehow related.

Strictly speaking, it's called DIA at Ubisoft. Guess they were rather forward thinking, prioritizing accessibility and the cornucopia of neurodivergent snowflakes with USI plaguing their ranks, throwing aside "Equality". At the end of the day, they're not going to listen to any differing opinions, as much as they set up a system of "safe spaces" in their workplace.

 

[Gobermental Supervisor]

There's the Prince of Persia but they fucked that up too. Their biggest cash cow is the Tom Clancy licensed stuff.

They are releasing another DLC for The Divison 2 this year.
I expect it will do quiet well, the game series is decently popular and a consistent money bringer.

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

So... how many copies does Ubi need to sell to actually break even on this?

Even assuming all 1 million players they have currently across all platforms are actually 1 million sales and they all bought the uber deluxe 120$ edition, that's still only 120 million bucks. Was this game made on a lower budget than the rest of Ubi's recent crap?

 

[p1138]

So... how many copies does Ubi need to sell to actually break even on this?

Even assuming all 1 million players they have currently across all platforms are actually 1 million sales and they all bought the uber deluxe 120$ edition, that's still only 120 million bucks. Was this game made on a lower budget than the rest of Ubi's recent crap?

That's assuming they make full price, which they don't. The various markets other than their own shop take 30%. If this game took 150 million(which I think is kind of a lowball) and they make $50 off of the $70 the normal game sells for, that's 3 million copies at $70 to make back 150 million dollars. The reality is it's probably closer to 250 million especially after the delay, so that's 5 million copies needed.

 

[Michael Wade]

Deus Ex was Eidos and Square/Enix.
Ubisoft owns Rayman, Anno, Prince of Persia, all of the Tom Clancy games, Far Cry, Watchdogs, Might & Magic, and a few others.

Yes but edios broke off from square... Ok they got bought off by the swedish embracer group.... I seem to remember have some suspicious Chinese ties though.

In any case expect all those ubi franchises to be entombed to lessen competition to Chinese products or put out in mobile gatcha slop. At best, I can see is them making a smash bros clone out of it.

 

[Potion_Time]

So... how many copies does Ubi need to sell to actually break even on this?

Even assuming all 1 million players they have currently across all platforms are actually 1 million sales and they all bought the uber deluxe 120$ edition, that's still only 120 million bucks. Was this game made on a lower budget than the rest of Ubi's recent crap?

5-6 million sounds about right to hit the break even unless we're underestimating the marketing budget.