God of Nothing
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TEN YEARS AT LEAST
it still makes me laugh
Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser
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it still makes me laugh
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That, and because people are still trying to figure out what Isayama was actually going for by writing it.
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He did win technically, it's just that his definition of "victory" is incontrovertibly retarded.
I recall him saying he wanted to "hurt" fans or something. I guess making a shitty ending nobody likes did accomplish that.
Gondolindrim
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My favorite thing about the Final Arc is how that Ymir Fritz flashback confirmed that everything the Marleyeans said and believed about the Eldian Empire was 100% true but the audience is supposed to just go on and continue to see them as the victims.
I mean....A certain big nosed tribe has been doing exactly that for thousands of years. So its actually one of the most accurate to real life parts of the manga.
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I mean the only people who believe that Paradis dindu nuffin by the end are just Eren, Historia, and Floch fanboys who act like the Rumbling is 100% a sane option instead of something that would blatantly fuck over everyone, including the characters they white knight.
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Rumbling was the only option, peace was impossible. They betrayed their own nation, gave up their only ability to defend themselves, and still got wiped out once their enemies rebuilt. Only the sterilization plan was a viable alternative.
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For those that still think the 50-Year-Plan, or the use of tactical Rumblings wouldn't work, remember that Japan and America went from archenemies to best friends in that same time period with the use of roughly the irl equivalent of those tactics.
What I'm saying is that a lot can change in 50 years, and saying peace would be impossible isn't true.
What I'm saying is that a lot can change in 50 years, and saying peace would be impossible isn't true.
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A lot can change in 50 years, true, or in an even smaller amount of time. Japan went from an ally in WWI, to enemy in WWII, and back to ally now, so maybe after WWIII they'll be an enemy again.
Unpredictability over time isn't exactly a selling point, especially when you're on the clock. Once Eren dies in a few years there'd be no guarantee the next in line would have the will or ability to enact the Rumbling, their trump card--which itself was on the verge of being eclipsed via technological advancement anyway.
And at any rate, the "who knows, maybe peace would be attainable" notion was blown out of the water by the manga itself. There's nothing more Paradis could've done to prove their peacefulness than enacting a coup/civil war to save their enemies. If that's not enough, which it wasn't, what would be?
Literally the only step further would be to forgo their sovereignty to their enemies and hope for mercy that wouldn't come, unless I'm missing something.
Unpredictability over time isn't exactly a selling point, especially when you're on the clock. Once Eren dies in a few years there'd be no guarantee the next in line would have the will or ability to enact the Rumbling, their trump card--which itself was on the verge of being eclipsed via technological advancement anyway.
And at any rate, the "who knows, maybe peace would be attainable" notion was blown out of the water by the manga itself. There's nothing more Paradis could've done to prove their peacefulness than enacting a coup/civil war to save their enemies. If that's not enough, which it wasn't, what would be?
Literally the only step further would be to forgo their sovereignty to their enemies and hope for mercy that wouldn't come, unless I'm missing something.
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I never got a satisfying answer as to why "ask the other countries to help find a way to turn Titans back into humans" wasn't an option.
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Because the author basically destroyed the mystery of the setting by confirming that Marley wasn’t lying about the curse of Ymir and making Ymir get WORM’d.
I’d honestly like the setting more if it hinted at shit more and got shit like Eren’s group cutting up a captured Shifter to feed to the people of Connie’s village to see if they became more sapient without killing the Shifter. Go full Eren committing war crimes behind everyone’s backs.
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Because that would involve people not immediately resorting to violence to solve problems, and AoT absolutely hates when people don't do that.
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So the Founder Titan is supposed to have godlike powers and all that and the most imaginative thing Eren can think of is run over everyone else with millions of Colossal Titans? There are multiple times where characters ask "Wait, why doesn't Eren use his powers to do X" and the response every time is "I dunno lol"
The grorious Nipponese man has created an incredibly based ending.
"You and your ethnic enemies both have perfectly valid reasons to hate each other so you better genocide them before they genocide you."
Also, thank you for showing that the actions of race-traitors directly leads to their homeland being destroyed.
The grorious Nipponese man has created an incredibly based ending.
"You and your ethnic enemies both have perfectly valid reasons to hate each other so you better genocide them before they genocide you."
Also, thank you for showing that the actions of race-traitors directly leads to their homeland being destroyed.
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TheHarbinger
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This is because the comics and shows of practically every franchise are drawn out to maximize the amount of money everything makes. Can't have Eren just steamroll everyone and end the story early. Can't have Homelander go berserk and lose his mind. Can't have the White Walkers invade Westeros. Until we have sold all of the merchandise, t-shirts, and toys. And filmed a few spinoff shows.
By the time you get to the Rumbling. Or the Long Night. Or Homelander doing literally anything. No one cares and the franchises are jokes. People are just impatiently waiting for the ending because of the sunk cost of watching the previous decade of content and the various mystery boxes. Attack on Titan masterfully spent years building up the grand mystery of what was in the basement for example.
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Did that even need to be shown? It's like showing fire is hot.
People demand payoff. There's probably somebody out there who followed Pokemon for literally decades waiting for Ash to beat the Pokemon League. The problem is often the payoff is shit, just like The Walking Dead comic's mediocre ending.
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The simple answer is that Eren is a destructive retard who wanted to destroy everything because he hates all of humanity. Though you do have a point how characters question him not doing other things with his abilities.
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There's a perfectly workable solution to that; make those godlike powers only manifest when difficult prerequisites are met. It would allow the principle to be consistently applied and the studios to get their padding. Eren and his allies are in a mad dash to unlock the founding powers before an all out assault with modern technology overwhelms the power of the defending titans. They manage to do so just in time, and just to keep the edginess consistent, Eren has a Frodo moment where he hesitates to do the right thing, seeing flashbacks and flashforwards of atrocities past and atrocities that may be committed if he leaves his enemies alive. He ultimately does follow through but pays for his moment of weakness by having to sacrifice his own life somehow.
Something along the lines of that would address the big question of why a literal physical god could do nothing but wipe out 90% of humanity and the planet's ecosystem along with it.
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This makes zero sense. Why would anyone allow their enemy to meet those requirements to elevate their powers? They would just kill them before they could become powerful. For beings as powerful as the Titans you would want a permanent solution to control their danger and volatility. Even enslavement failed as Eren's father stole the Titan powers and other Titans began defecting and having second thoughts as well.
It would make sense in an arms race. You have two sides with small weapons. They want larger weapons. They begin developing them and trying to beat the other side to get nuke first. This is how every 4X or RTS works on paper. But in Attack on Titan one side has massive technological advantages, centuries of development, nearly full understanding of the Titans, control over most of the Titans, control over the air, land, and sea, and the element of surprise. And they let their enemy continually create new powers and weapons until they are now so far behind in the war that one person can defeat the entire world.
But even worse. The other side, Eren basically, kills most of the world but leaves enough of them behind so that the arms race can begin again. And the enemy now have stealth bombers and wipe out the island.
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No, not "most". All of it would be dead because of Eren's actions causing the entire world's ecosystem to collapse. That's the problem.