Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser

[Stanley Ipkiss]

I think the argument Isayama wanted to go for, which Armin actually uses is that destroying the World's navies would have been more than enough to buy the people of Paradis time, since even loosing one battleship would have been enough to economically devastate a country, let alone the whole fleet. If Eren had simply stopped there and Paradis used the threat of future Rumblings to threaten the world into peace via superior firepower, it would allowed for peace long enough for Paradis to catch up technologically. That seemed to be the argument that he was shooting for at any rate.

Never bought that idea at all.

(Almost) The entire world had already collectively decided to team up and destroy Paradise, before Eren attacked Libero and killed multiple political and military leaders. If Armin's plan had any merit at all, that should've scared them off, but they immediately sent an attack force straight to Paradis to try and "recover" Eren/Zeke, which led to the rumbling and there was really no turning back from there.
"Buying time for Peace talks" in this scenario just sounds stupid. Even for a country that has declared no intentions to harm you, destroying a single ship, which would no doubt have people on it, is grounds for a major war, and Isayama/Armin's idea is to destroy the entire Navy of countries that have already resolved to exterminate you? And then hope that they're scared enough to just let it go? Rather than feeling justified in their initial assessment of you and more motivated than ever?

Even if they sign this lopsided "peace" treaty, what stops them from just rebuilding and attacking again anyway? Lest we forget, Marley also wants that stash of whatever stone that they use to power their 3d gear. Hell I'd argue they'd need it after having all their ships destroyed to recover quickly.

Unless Eren would be able to station a bunch of colossals all over the world, 24/7 to monitor every country and make sure they're not building any military craft, while also having to fight off air attacks and frequent shifter infiltrations, they would just keep coming until either they or Paradis are completely wiped out.

It's an extremely retarded naive idea and one that only Isayama could come up with after fucking up his story so bad. He made it such that there's no scenario where talking it out is a viable solution.

 

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So are there plans for a western live action film adaptation? I liked the first one and hated the second

 

[TVB]

So are there plans for a western live action film adaptation? I liked the first one and hated the second

Warner Bros. had announced in 2018 that the director Andy Muschietti (the director of 2017's It), was set to direct a live-action movie, yet five years later, and currently nothing came of it since. Thank christ, let it stay dead. Plus, there was already a Japanese live-action movie of it in 2015, and it was really good.

 

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Warner Bros. had announced in 2018 that the director Andy Muschietti (the director of 2017's It), was set to direct a live-action movie, yet five years later, and currently nothing came of it since. Thank christ, let it stay dead. Plus, there was already a Japanese live-action movie of it in 2015, and it was really good.

Guess it is dead then?

 

[TheHarbinger]

Guess it is dead then?

Every single top anime or manga has a floating deal attached to it. Akira, Naruto, Attack on Titan, Monster, Death Note, and so on. People buy a license for an exclusive period and maybe they make something and maybe they don't. Sometimes you get insanely rushed garbage or low quality junk just because the license is about to expire.

There will probably never be a period for the next few decades where someone isn't sitting on an Attack on Titan deal to make a movie or video game.

 

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Every single top anime or manga has a floating deal attached to it. Akira, Naruto, Attack on Titan, Monster, Death Note, and so on. People buy a license for an exclusive period and maybe they make something and maybe they don't. Sometimes you get insanely rushed garbage or low quality junk just because the license is about to expire.

There will probably never be a period for the next few decades where someone isn't sitting on an Attack on Titan deal to make a movie or video game.

Is it a set date long film rights or even for life? Something like the marvel deal where it cam be reverted if they not make something out of it.

I remember some designs for the evangelion live action designs from the early 00's

 

[TheHarbinger]

Is it a set date long film rights or even for life? Something like the marvel deal where it cam be reverted if they not make something out of it.

No one is getting the rights for life to anything major. What happens is that a company bids on a license for a period of a few years. They have the rights to exclusively make live action shows or games or whatever. Most of the time a company that is serious about making something gets the rights. But occasionally the rights are sold to a studio that go bankrupt or are without enough resources to do anything and they hoard the license on purpose as leverage.

They can extend the rights as well usually if they make a certain number of titles. This hilariously happened once with the Hellraiser series. Dimension Films looked over some paperwork and found that they had three weeks to make a Hellraiser film or else they would lose the rights to the entire franchise based on the contract. So they grabbed a random horror script, threw in some Hellraiser references, and shot a movie in three weeks and put it on DVD to keep their end of the deal up.

 

[Registration]

No one is getting the rights for life to anything major. What happens is that a company bids on a license for a period of a few years. They have the rights to exclusively make live action shows or games or whatever. Most of the time a company that is serious about making something gets the rights. But occasionally the rights are sold to a studio that go bankrupt or are without enough resources to do anything and they hoard the license on purpose as leverage.

They can extend the rights as well usually if they make a certain number of titles. This hilariously happened once with the Hellraiser series. Dimension Films looked over some paperwork and found that they had three weeks to make a Hellraiser film or else they would lose the rights to the entire franchise based on the contract. So they grabbed a random horror script, threw in some Hellraiser references, and shot a movie in three weeks and put it on DVD to keep their end of the deal up.

Ah got it, you seem knowledgeable about this, in case where the rights returns to the creator, do they also acquire the rights of the old films like in your hellraiser example? Or it is owned by the studio that created the first film forever ans they could even remake it from time to time based on their first film and not other concepts?

There were some fuckaroo with Macross/Robotech rights in US/world where the US rights user kinda cockblocked Macross from going international and recently they got into a partnership about the usage of concept, names and so on of Robotech/first macross series.

 

[TVB]

Guess it is dead then?

Once a project is announced and greenlit a couple years and nothing else gets announced since, then yes. It's dead Jim.

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

It's an extremely retarded naive idea and one that only Isayama could come up with after fucking up his story so bad. He made it such that there's no scenario where talking it out is a viable solution.

Hmm if only we could talk the nazis out of the holocaust.

"Hey mister nazi sir, those you are killing are still people. You may believe that they are subhuman filth, but look deeply into your heart..."

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

I still found the worst retcon to be the training Sargent wanting to fuck Eren’s mom and Eren actually being super special talented at everything. If he was actually incompetent at some things then The Rumbling could have been Eren feeling cornered due to Ymir’s Curse*.

Also, people are still denying that Mikasa got JEAN’d.


*wasn’t that fake? Eren’s Dad didn’t get AIDS and it sounded like Marley made it up to scare shifters. It would’ve added something to the story if Marley played head games with people.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Also, people are still denying that Mikasa got JEAN’d.

The excuses they come up with are wild, too.

"Jean deserves better..!" "Mikasa's already basically a widow..!" "Jean deserves to be someone's first choice..!" "Mikasa being alone for the rest of her life is so much more romantic..!" Etc, etc.

It's just so stupid.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

The excuses they come up with are wild, too.

"Jean deserves better..!" "Mikasa's already basically a widow..!" "Jean deserves to be someone's first choice..!" "Mikasa being alone for the rest of her life is so much more romantic..!" Etc, etc.

It's just so stupid.

Jean is the only persons who's motivations and inner thoughts are projected for the audience to understand. He carries Marco's death with him until the end and buries the hatchet in order to stop Eren's incel sperg out.

Jean's entire rivalry with Eren is because he thinks Eren is a loudmouthed cunt and jealous that Mikasa is obsessed with Eren because Eren's killing of her kidnappers basically forced her to worship him as a child. Jean's motivation for joining the Survey Corps is partially because he he thought with his dick and because Eren is a retard who would get everyone killed. Jean as a foil to Eren is great. He starts scummy and self-interested, but grows to really value everyone around him to the point of being the person who really should be the leader or 2nd in command of the Survey Corps.

Him getting Mikasa is basically the biggest fuck you to Eren possible. Her showing up to Eren's grave with Jean and their kid is Jean pissing on Eren's grave as his Bird-Eren watches. You can argue about why Jean liking Mikasa is shallow (I'd argue that's it's fine, Jean basically grows to admire her in spite of her Eren obsession), but I find it funny on a spiteful level. It's not like Titanic where Mikasa gets fucked by Eren in the afterlife, it's her remembering Eren before he became a mass murderer.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Jean is the only persons who's motivations and inner thoughts are projected for the audience to understand. He carries Marco's death with him until the end and buries the hatchet in order to stop Eren's incel sperg out.

Jean's entire rivalry with Eren is because he thinks Eren is a loudmouthed cunt and jealous that Mikasa is obsessed with Eren because Eren's killing of her kidnappers basically forced her to worship him as a child. Jean's motivation for joining the Survey Corps is partially because he he thought with his dick and because Eren is a retard who would get everyone killed. Jean as a foil to Eren is great. He starts scummy and self-interested, but grows to really value everyone around him to the point of being the person who really should be the leader or 2nd in command of the Survey Corps.

Him getting Mikasa is basically the biggest fuck you to Eren possible. Her showing up to Eren's grave with Jean and their kid is Jean pissing on Eren's grave as his Bird-Eren watches. You can argue about why Jean liking Mikasa is shallow (I'd argue that's it's fine, Jean basically grows to admire her in spite of her Eren obsession), but I find it funny on a spiteful level. It's not like Titanic where Mikasa gets fucked by Eren in the afterlife, it's her remembering Eren before he became a mass murderer.

That makes a bunch of sense actually. And now I want a Nauto: The Last kind of scenario where we see how Mikasa falls in love with Jean.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

That makes a bunch of sense actually. And now I want a Nauto: The Last kind of scenario where we see how Mikasa falls in love with Jean.

Probably just him being closer to her ideal Eren than the actual Eren is.

Jean as a character is just a good foil for Eren. He’s the archetypical rival who grows from his position as smug dick into someone who’s capable of challenging the protagonist on more than just grounds of jealousy. Like if you didn’t timeskip as much it should’ve just been Eren becoming more distant with his cult of personality as Jean becomes the Officer who actually has to deal with training recruits and making sure Connie and Sasha don’t abuse their power.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Dude wasn't wearing a diaper or scared of girls or anything that would make sense for someone like him to abhor intimacy. Doesn't care about relationships, then at the last moment cries about not having one... makes any sense to you, especially when the guy could pick up any chick he knows?

But he didn't abhor intimacy, it's weird people can't tell he was simply single-minded. Eren's seething rage at Titans gave him tunnel vision, it was his only goal, not picking up chicks. He hated being trapped behind the walls, he hated his family being killed, he hated his home being ruined, and so he joined the military for the sole purpose of going and killing Titans.

And that's why he was a great character; if THIS Eren was legit and not actually a liar as it turned out, and if everyone didn't suddenly become traitors immediately after this scene, AoT could've been fucking incredible until the end:



But even as things went, Eren wasn't crying about "not having a relationship". I think a lot of people (not you) are really disingenuous about how they interpret that scene, nonsense about him being an incel or simp or whatever. He was essentially planning on his own death and so he couldn't be with Mikasa like he'd prefer due to that, he was crying because he was gonna die so young, and wouldn't be able to be with her and his friends.

Eren tried being stoic and manly, keeping his feelings to himself, which is pretty admirable (reminds me of this story), but Armin pressed him on it and it came spilling out. I seriously wonder how people would act in his place, I never hear suggestions on how else he should've responded to Armin given the (retarded) circumstances. Naturally you don't wanna die as a teenager, be separated from your friends, and have your girl be someone else's.

Hmm if only we could talk the nazis out of the holocaust.

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*wasn’t that fake?

It's confusing to follow, but I don't think so, he actually died a few years later in some other Paths timeline where they abandoned everything and ran off together in the woods, or something like that.

Jean's entire rivalry with Eren is because he thinks Eren is a loudmouthed cunt and jealous that Mikasa is obsessed with Eren because Eren's killing of her kidnappers basically forced her to worship him as a child.

Wasn't it not so much just him killing her kidnappers, but the scarf he gave her? It's been a while since I read & watched the scene, but I think she was sort of forlorn until that.

Also, people are still denying that Mikasa got JEAN’d.

Not sure if it's actually him specifically, but it's kind of cope from people to say whoever it was wasn't her husband. There's technically other explanations but they aren't very convincing, there's a subreddit full of shippers cope-theorizing, which is funny.

I think Mikasa probably married to respect Eren's wishes to forget about him, even though she initially said she wouldn't.

 

[Random Internet Person]

@SSj_Ness simple minded, huh? Guess Eren really is a typical shonen protagonist.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

@SSj_Ness simple minded, huh? Guess Eren really is a typical shonen protagonist.

Nah Shonen Protagonists actually win.

 

[God of Nothing]

You gotta give this series one thing
discussion about its terrible ass ending lasted longer here than game of thrones' did

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

You gotta give this series one thing
discussion about its terrible ass ending lasted longer here than game of thrones' did

That is because The Game of Throne's ending was just a pathetic shart.

AoT's ending was hilarious.