Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser

How will Eren be stopped?


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I don't think Erin is actually dead. I bet it's going to be some ass pull using the warhammer titan's power.
Same here, but the animation (and reaction of anime only fans) will be priceless. Also, wasn't one of the War Hammer Titan's abilities to reattach body parts/spit out those tentacle things and repair itself anyway? So yeah, Eren's definitely not dead... yet.
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Not gonna lie, if this happens I might just forgive Isayama for everything he has done.

Zeke will catch the head. Eren's head will become The Thing and devour Zeke's head and controlling his body. Headless Eren will turn to Gabi and smile, giving her a thumbs up as his head regrows.

Everyone stops fighting because they're so horrified.

The two Eren's walk towards each other and high five each other.

The walls break and the Rumbling happens. Formerly headless Eren turns back to Gabi and wraps his arm around her and whispers in her ear:


Then tumblr will go crazy because they get to draw gay art of the two Erens. They begin to ship Eren and Eren. Manga saved.
 
Guren no Yumiya was one of the reasons I liked Attack on Titan and the utter hype that was the first season. Seriously, the first opening was so amazing, that even some of my fellow bushmen made a cover version in Slav speech.
Back when the next episode out-hyped the previous one, when Sasha was still best girl, when the writing didn't completely shit itself and when Gabi was not a thing.
 
To be fair I can't really say. It just seems off. It's the scene were dude's wife gets stabbed with the serum and then kicked off the walls. The voices definitely aren't what I had expected except for I guess the Marley guy. The designs are a bit off model too at least in the scene they're showing.
 
To be fair I can't really say. It just seems off. It's the scene were dude's wife gets stabbed with the serum and then kicked off the walls. The voices definitely aren't what I had expected except for I guess the Marley guy. The designs are a bit off model too at least in the scene they're showing.
I remember reading somewhere that the series might be changing animation studios, so that might be it. As for the voices, well, can't say much there. AoT has always had a rather hit-or-miss English Dub. It either sounds really good, or really bad. Bryce Papenbrooke as Eren is the best example of this. He's either amazing, or sounds like he's trying way too hard. There is no in-between with him.

The one thing I'm certain of is that if the anime already looks bad, this whole series is gonna crash even harder than expected.
 
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Eeew yeah it's showing the part they didn't air last week and it looks weird. And the narator, presumeably Erin's dad sounds like a bad impression of the black guy from Bruce Almighty that played god but white.

It looks like there's two different studios working on it. The art keeps changing drastically between shots.
 
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Typically I'm pretty good at seeing the angles of a story and where they're going to go. The problem here is, this doesn't make sense from a story-telling perspective. Its a bad decision all around. I do realize Isayama loves his fake-outs and cliff-hangers, but this is another level.

Also I'll never sympathize with KoM. They're Nazis and colonizers who put their enemies in a concentration camp. Its rather black and white. Paradis is a concentration camp for people who don't even know what they did. Eren did a Dresden like the allies did in WWII. It doesn't make the cause of the allies any less righteous. We also firebombed the ever living fuck out of Japan. Its always black and white to me, because I'm not going to sympathize with a Kingdom that has their own little private concentration camp and turns their enemies into Titans to torture them. And if they wake up to that realization, they will be genocided. They're fated to slowly die through starvation and being devoured alive. There's no nuance here. KoM has done things worse than its conquerors by a longshot. And yeah, kill Marley because they want to murder your entire population.

Isayama's attempt to make 'both sides equal' has been a total, laughable fucking failure in my eyes. One surprise attack on civilians doesn't equal centuries of genocide and horrific death and oppression.
I don't remotely think he's trying to make both sides equal in terms of the actual head honcho goals, I think he's trying to point out that killing all of Marley is terrible, and blaming the common populace is the same as calling all Eldians devils. You do remember the shit the Eldians pulled for hundreds of years before the story began, right? Eren himself believes every human is free and every human deserves to live, that's the main theme of the manga. No matter your past, no matter what your people did, you deserve to be alive. He tossed aside that belief when he killed innocents, and probably some part of him hates that he did that.

Quick PS: If you want a truly scary manga, by the way, check out A Trail of Blood. It is positively frightening because there's nothing fantasy about it. It is just the story of a boy... and his psychopathic, overbearing mom.
I thought I recognized the art style. This is the same guy as The Flowers of Evil, right? I love that manga but if people hate AoT for being a pseudo-intellectual series they should see a lot of reaction to TFoE.
 
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I don't remotely think he's trying to make both sides equal in terms of the actual head honcho goals, I think he's trying to point out that killing all of Marley is terrible, and blaming the common populace is the same as calling all Eldians devils. You do remember the shit the Eldians pulled for hundreds of years before the story began, right? Eren himself believes every human is free and every human deserves to live, that's the main theme of the manga. No matter your past, no matter what your people did, you deserve to be alive. He tossed aside that belief when he killed innocents, and probably some part of him hates that he did that.

You mean that something none of them was responsible for, had no hand in and don't even remember? Oh yeah, that's totally fair and completely makes up for losing a war. Torturing them for all eternity by having them devoured and making them starve to death and having absolutely no fucking idea why. That incomparable fucking misery is totally equivalent. Especially when you beat them, then you punish the ever-living shit out of them.

The moment Marley figured out that they knew the truth, you don't think they'd go apeshit and commit genocide fucking immediately? They were willing to do that when they had NO memory of the war. Now they know the truth and can fight back. Eren doing a Dresden and cutting off the command structure of the enemy with a surprise attack is not remotely similar to the torture they endured. If the allies knew they could cut off Hitler's head by firebombing a city he was in with mostly civilians, they'd do it. War is messy, sloppy and awful. (By the way, we firebombed the fuck out of Japan and burned thousands to death since their cities were made out of mostly wood). Any way you cut it, Eren's surprise attack doesn't even come remotely close to what Marely did.

Also if you think Marley would ever negotiate, fucking lol. A country willing to commit genocide who mostly view you as Satan incarnate would negotiate with a populace you've tortured endlessly for centuries. Yeah, ok, I'll fucking believe that. What Eren did was an inevitability. And if Isayama implied otherwise, he's a shit writer (he's a shit writer anyway) because it makes no fucking sense. Once they found out, war was inevitable. So civilians were going to die any way you slice it.

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Also Eren's goal is not to kill all of Marley, but to make them realize that a World War with Eldia is not worth the cost. If you want peace, prepare for war. That's what Eren did. He wants people free from suffering. Marely would never be understanding or willing with Eldia. So he has to make it not worth the cost of going to war. Hence the Rumbling and the like. I don't think all of Marley deserves to die, but I'm not sympathizing with them or the civvies they lost. Too fucking bad, actions have consequences. Don't torture people for centuries, try to genocide them, and when they wake up, realize you're only going to genocide them faster and then they strike first.

I think there's plenty of justification for Eren's actions. Which is why I don't fault him and I think it is a failure to make him morally 'grey', especially if you know history. It makes no sense for Marley to just let Eldia go on with this knowledge. War was going to happen, negotiation would be pointless. It'd only allow Marley to prepare. So he tried to incapacitate them before they did anything. There was never any intention to invade or kill off all of Marley, but to make them stop their genocide and any war they were always going to wage.

Just because Eldia's command structure was too fucking cowardly to do something, Eren went ahead without them.

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Also Eren killed a ton of civilians when he tried to capture the female Titan in a heavily populated area. Its not the first time he's done something like this. This was arguably even worse because Erwin and Levi massively fucked up and this didn't need to happen. So Eren's killed civilians before in an even more needless, less justifiable scenario. Another failure on Isayama's part. So again, why should I care when he does it again, for better reasons that might save more lives in the end?

Its just extremely bad writing. You can't pull on my heartstrings if he's already killed civilians, his own people (intentionally, he knew what would happen fighting in a populated area). I do not buy he'd be mournful over something he's already done and thought the costs justify the outcome.
 
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So 120 raw is out and with Zeke:


He catches Eren's head. And like I said:


Also Eren literally does not give a fuck about his head getting blown off, which I find hilarious. He's there through PATHS so he's obviously not dead. The little girl is Ymir Fritz. Eren only agreed to meet Zeke to go to mystery dimension. Zeke tricks Eren and then removes the Founder's vow of non-war.

Grisha had Mikasa's parents killed so Eren could have a perma body guard. Shit is just getting even more fucking stupid now.

Here: https://ww5.readsnk.com/chapter/shingeki-no-kyojin-spoilers-raw-chapter-120/


So its obviously not a mistake or anything, Isayma just fucked up, forgot everything and rushed the chapter out. SHOCKER. Fake memories, dual Erens, all that cool shit we discussed, nope. Mary Sue Loli did all that shit. My fucking God Isayma is fucking trash.
 
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Grisha had Mikasa's parents killed so Eren could have a perma body guard. Shit is just getting even more fucking stupid now.
I just read the chapter and this wasn't indicated anywhere, unless I missed something.

 
Fake memories

I think the notion of fake memories would've been cool

I really hoped the entirety of chapter 119 was all made up in some kind of mass delusion inflicted on the people within the walls to unite them and drive up requirement and a counterattack for an attack that never actually happened.

It'd explain a lot of the inconsistencies in chapter 119 too.
 
I think the notion of fake memories would've been cool

I really hoped the entirety of chapter 119 was all made up in some kind of mass delusion inflicted on the people within the walls to unite them and drive up requirement and a counterattack for an attack that never actually happened.

It'd explain a lot of the inconsistencies in chapter 119 too.

The only inconsistencies were because Isayama rushed the chapter because he had no idea what he was doing.

'Gabby can't ride a horse' - *Rides Horse with 30 pound Rifle to exactly where Eren is perfectly.

'Pixis is on horse' - *Pixis in house*

'Cart Titan goes to human' - *Goes back to Titan in five seconds with all the shit back on*

'Eren had legs bitten off' - *Eren's pants regrow*

And people say this faggot pays close attention to detail. My fucking ass.

Obviously we all knew Eren wasn't going to die, but every theory is better than 'ITS A BASEBALL'. Then Zeke punks Eren and we knew what we already thought, the girl was the founder Ymir and Eren and Zeke's dad was shitty. I cannot believe the chapter after Eren getting his fucking head shot off was filler.

The only new thing we learn is that only Eren can move around freely and the Founding Titan's will is gone.

I just read the chapter and this wasn't indicated anywhere, unless I missed something.


I think it was just a hypothesis before it was fully translated and type-set.
 
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The only new thing we learn is that only Eren can move around freely and the Founding Titan's will is gone.

That came out of fucking nowhere. There was zero reason to believe making pals with the Ymir in the Sand Stomach would break the vow. The fandom came up with seemingly every possible way for the story to move forward from here, and not a single person said "Obviously Zeke became best friends with Ymir while he was in the Sand Stomach, and that broke the will of King Kuck. It's just basic logic".

I genuinely can't decide which Isayama more blatantly pulled out of his ass, this or Zeke getting resurrected via the Sand Stomach in the first place.

Not to mention that it's pointless in the first place, Zeke can't use the Founding Titan (speaking of, remember when it used to be called the Coordinate before Isayama changed it from an ability to a Titan?) unless he kills Eren and steals it from him, which he just said in the chapter that he's unwilling to do.

Hell, Zeke being affected by the Founding Titan's will makes no sense, he's not a descendent of Karl Fritz, he's from a different branch of the royal bloodline, so why would Karl be able to affect him?
 
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I'm still so confused, and let down. Mostly because the two Erens thing didn't happened, but also that the fake memories theory doesn't appear to be what's actually going on either. Then there's this panel.
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Eren says to Zeke that he "can't accept such a foolish plan" and I'm just sitting here like, "You've gone along every other stupid plan in this series. Why stop now?"

On that note, I'm not even sure what Zeke's plan is. I know he wants euthanize the Eldians, but then what? Also, how is going to accomplish that in the first? place Turn them all into titans? Okay then, and...? This is so fucking dumb.

Did Eren's plan get revealed yet? Probably not. Speaking of Eren, I know this is a nitpick, but he was a really ugly baby. And is it just me, or is the art somehow getting worse?
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The only new thing we learn is that only Eren can move around freely and the Founding Titan's will is gone.
I'm sorry, but what the fuck does that even mean?
 
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